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[favoritehookeronthecitadel]

J. Reezy wrote...

favoritehookeronthecitadel wrote...

I personally don't see why people can't be mature and simply disagree with the OP instead of making fun of them and posting pictures.

Seriously, they're just expressing their opinion. If you have something hateful to say or post, just **** off.

The motherlovin' irony.

Well, if you're gonna poke fun at someone instead of just disagreeing with them- well, basically a monkey's going to be treated like a monkey.

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Ugh....another Thread like this? Damn.

I know it's someone's opinon. But I can express my opinion as well: People who hate the Endings do not have to constantly remind others how disappointed they are of it. It drags. We know already. They have been milking this cow for what....more than a year now? The cow is bone dry. Let it go.

If you feel that way why would you even click the thread, you should have known by the title what it was.

[TheBlackBaron]

Regardless of whether you think the endings were good, bad, meh, or okay ... seriously, it's time to let go. Still feeling sick about them a year plus after they first were revealed is a problem. I can understand having a visceral reaction the first time, but you really ought to have worked your way to the acceptance stage of grief by this point.

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 05 juin 2013 - 06:29 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

DinoSteve wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Ugh....another Thread like this? Damn.

I know it's someone's opinon. But I can express my opinion as well: People who hate the Endings do not have to constantly remind others how disappointed they are of it. It drags. We know already. They have been milking this cow for what....more than a year now? The cow is bone dry. Let it go.

If you feel that way why would you even click the thread, you should have known by the title what it was.

I had the will to act accordingly.

[Cobalt2113]

You want to know why Bioware never considered making an ending like the one you just wrote? It's because your one does not work. At all.

Your little scene with Wrex and Eve is nice and all. Unless Wrex is dead. And unless Eve is dead.

Then you go to the scene with the Quarians (with tali) and geth helping eachother. Great, so what does the player get if all the Quarians are dead? Or all the Geth are dead?

Making an ending to a game with this many different choices is a lot more complicated than you seem to realise.

[Mike 9987]

tl;dr

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Ugh....another Thread like this? Damn.

I know it's someone's opinon. But I can express my opinion as well: People who hate the Endings do not have to constantly remind others how disappointed they are of it. It drags. We know already. They have been milking this cow for what....more than a year now? The cow is bone dry. Let it go.

If you feel that way why would you even click the thread, you should have known by the title what it was.

I had the will to act accordingly.

That is not an excuse.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Ugh....another Thread like this? Damn.

I know it's someone's opinon. But I can express my opinion as well: People who hate the Endings do not have to constantly remind others how disappointed they are of it. It drags. We know already. They have been milking this cow for what....more than a year now? The cow is bone dry. Let it go.

Way to come in here and whine.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

DinoSteve wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Ugh....another Thread like this? Damn.

I know it's someone's opinon. But I can express my opinion as well: People who hate the Endings do not have to constantly remind others how disappointed they are of it. It drags. We know already. They have been milking this cow for what....more than a year now? The cow is bone dry. Let it go.

If you feel that way why would you even click the thread, you should have known by the title what it was.

I had the will to act accordingly.

That is not an excuse.

Meh *Shrugs*

[dreamgazer]

Seboist wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Seboist wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Seboist wrote...

It's okay man, you're not the only one who failed to notice the ending was "foreshadowed" by the likes of Lazarus.

Or the likes of our favorite MacGuffin-ex-Machina, the Conduit.

Nice try but no.

D- for effort.

Keep telling yourself that, Seb.

By all means explain how it wrecks the overall plot like Lazarus.

Think about what would happen if that ancient, magically still-functioning Prothean prototype---the unexplained thing Shepard and co have been hunting the entire game---had shut off two minutes earlier, or Vigil hadn't explained what the conduit actually was. That's literal plot-breakage. 

[Kataphrut94]

What the OP is describing did happen. It was in this little DLC they released in June 2012 called the Extended Cut. I would strongly recommend it.

[Kesak12]

Have not came on here for awhile but logged in just for this. I for one decided to leave after citadel and to not buy any more games from Bioware and EA in total (still doing well on that). I agree try MEHEM (I would but I have ps3 version and dont have a good enough computer to run it if I bought ME3 again).

[Kataphrut94]

tickle267 wrote...

Kataphrut94 wrote...

What the OP is describing did happen. It was in this little DLC they released in June 2012 called the Extended Cut. I would strongly recommend it.

i must have missed the slides which provide closure for shepard, LI and the squad.

Shepard sacrificed himself and the squad (LI included) flew off into the sunset. That's what they asked for, that's what they got.

[Massa FX]

BSN! How I love thee! I try to leave. To avoid you. But... I always return for the Lolz and troll comments and the awesome gifs!

Never change my friends!

OP: I would like that happy ending too. Thank you for posting!

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

HappyApathy553 wrote...

 I'm not a big poster here but I REALLY need to vent my feelings right now.

Almost a year ago like many other players I had the extreme displeasure of discovering the horrifying "red, green, blue" ending choices that were presented in the final sequence of ME3, I had several shepards lined up to aim for the multitude of variable endings that had been promised (I believe there's a comment by the developers saying that during ME3's development) but after reaching the end the first time I ceased to have any desire to be forced to endure that mind numbing dissapointment again and ceased to play single player ME3 for months out of sheer disgust.

I remember not been able to sleep well that night after finding out that those really were the 3, the only 3, possible endings. I literally felt sick about the endings and couldn't believe this was what Bioware would do to its own creation.

Fast forward to today, I heard about about the extended cut and its 'new ending' and that some people were actually 'pleased' with what they saw, I made a point not to dig into the details about it as I didn't want to spoil it for myself, but I assumed this meant a 'happy' ending of some sort, however it still took the release of the Omega and Citadel DLC's to get me to finally decide to push for the ending again and really find out what this new ending was.

All the good feelings I got from playing the DLC's evaporated as I watched the sequnece for the 4th 'choice'...

Once again I felt that sickening knot in my stomach that I felt the first time as I stared at the screen in disbelief after chosing the 'refuse' ending, I was saying "No... No... No..." outloud as the credits rolled, once again an ending that has no relevance to your choices that dooms the galaxy in some way, no happy endings for shepard, no endiing that is effected by what you have done before.

What does Bioware have against giving an ending where you simply blow the Reapers to bits and live happily ever after? It may be cliché and not very philisophical, but it should be a choice, and one that actually has relevance to what choices you made throughout your journey in Mass Effect.

I had attempted to reach the ending this last time using my full Paragon (and personal favorite) Shepard in hopes of getting an end sequence like this:

As Shepard (female) gives a voice over speech about rebuilding and hope the future you watch as Wrex shouts in obvious rage and disagreement with a Salarian diplomat of some sort, finally he slams his fists on the table and storms out of the room, just as he exits Eve, who has been waiting at the door grabs his arm and they make eye contact, the fury on Wrex's face melts and gives way to a small smile, together they re-enter the room and return to the discussion table...

...the scene shifts to Rannoch, a group of Quarians (Tali included) are attempting to erect a large pole, perhaps for a temporary tent shelter, but as they hoist it up it begins to sway unsteadily, just before it topples a large Geth Prime reaches out and steadies it, the Quarians look up at their synthetic companion, you can't see their faces but you know they feel gratitude for the assistance...

...similar scenes pass, Garus is reunited with his family, James and Ashley (or perhaps Cortez) get hooked up, a sentimental moment between Joker and EDI, then finally, perhaps on a balconey overlooking the reconstruction of Thessia, or some verdent garden world far away from politics and conflict Shepard and Liara gaze out into the beyond, and then at each other, a small blue baby craddled in the Asari's arms, they smile as they imagine the possibilites of the future that awaits their child in the galaxy they have created together... the credits roll.

Of course an ending like this is obviously something Bioware would never consider implementing, its far too simple and does not force the player to do any major reflecting about the meaning of life and what not. Who the hell would like an ending that only leaves them with warm fuzzy feelings and satisfaction about a job well done, perhaps im to simple to understand the developers intentions but I still would like an ending that doesn't make me sick to the stomach and that gives me restless nights as I seeth with dissapointment, again.

I'm currently downloding a 'Happy Ending' Mod I found after experiencing the wretched 'extended' ending provided by Bioware, hopefully I can finally get a satisfying ending from it, even if it's cliché.

I felt that the official ending of the game destroyed everything good about the MEU. If a person had the game on a PC I would recommend the play it with the MEHEM straight away and forget the official endings. Screw the damned "achievements."

I don't feel the series was about heroism at all. It wasn't about a Pyrrhic victory. It was about friendship. It was about these amazing people we meet along the way, and love them or hate them everything got changed or totally destroyed in the official endings. I really don't think any of us cared about the war. Bioware did the right thing with the Citadel DLC, but it should come after the ending, not before. It should be the farewell to our friends after the war, not the party before Shepard dies.

I'm playing ME2 right now and I don't even think I can finish it because I can't stand to look at the opening screen of ME3. The tears of fire and water destroying the world.

They didn't rescue Shepard in the high EMS Destroy rubble because it would have made the little people the heroes and taken the focus off Shepard. I think that's why, but I could live with that. I don't have so big an ego to think that the little people don't matter, because that EMT who would rescue Shepard is a hero. The EMTs are out there saving lives.

[Sebby]

dreamgazer wrote...

Seboist wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Seboist wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Seboist wrote...

It's okay man, you're not the only one who failed to notice the ending was "foreshadowed" by the likes of Lazarus.

Or the likes of our favorite MacGuffin-ex-Machina, the Conduit.

Nice try but no.

D- for effort.

Keep telling yourself that, Seb.

By all means explain how it wrecks the overall plot like Lazarus.

Think about what would happen if that ancient, magically still-functioning Prothean prototype---the unexplained thing Shepard and co have been hunting the entire game---had shut off two minutes earlier, or Vigil hadn't explained what the conduit actually was. That's literal plot-breakage. 

That's just a mere convenience. That isn't like Lazarus(a tech that comes out of nowhere and has no relevance afterword despite the fact it's a major breakthrough) just so we can break up the squad, fast forward two years, hit the reset button and so we can end up working with a (retconned) Cerberus(a throwaway side enemy with neglible development that's even implied to have been wiped out depending on what order you do the quests).

[JPN17]

daaaav wrote...

HappyApathy553 wrote...

 

Of course an ending like this is obviously something Bioware would never consider implementing, its far too simple and does not force the player to do any major reflecting about the meaning of life and what not. Who the hell would like an ending that only leaves them with warm fuzzy feelings and satisfaction about a job well done, perhaps im to simple to understand the developers intentions but I still would like an ending that doesn't make me sick to the stomach and that gives me restless nights as I seeth with dissapointment, again.

Here is the paragraph which I would say has the most value to both pro enders, anti enders and Bioware alike.The ending was a mess but not because it was not happy enough. It was nonsensical and frustrating and championed whatever mythology Bioware was attempting to create (space brat) over much needed focus on characters. 

iakus wrote...

EC was just a whitewash of the horrible things Shepard is forced to do to "save" the galaxy.

Bioware
seemed to forget that even with a "clean" win the galaxy has been
shattered. Both in damage done and lives lost in the actual war and the
damage done to the relay in firing the Crucible. Was adding a morally
highly suspect "choice" at the end really needed? Did Shepard's death
really need to be forced, rather than left to how well prepared the
galaxy's forces were and how well-executed the plan was?

Instead
we get a broken AI's insane philosophy about organics and synthetics
then get told to "conform or the galaxy dies"

Two best responses in this thread.

[McFlurry598]

It's been what 15..16 months? That's a a year and half man. Over 25+ games have been released since then, get over it. Not everything has to have a happy ending. It was Shepards time, nobody likes and immortal hero(except master chief) The fact that you hate the ending just because you didnt get what you wanted is selfish and disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I liked the ending, not because I got what I wanted(I didn't) because the ending was great. It wasnt  all happy and Disney ****, it was original. The hero dies a heroic death. Saving the galaxy from the reapers..again. You had 3 heroic endings.

I picked control for my paragon and destroy for my renegade. I'm not trying to be a senseless dick, you're only hurting yourself more every time you run back to it

Modifié par McFlurry598, 05 juin 2013 - 08:34 .

[AlanC9]

HappyApathy553 wrote...
Fast forward to today, I heard about about the extended cut and its 'new ending' and that some people were actually 'pleased' with what they saw, I made a point not to dig into the details about it as I didn't want to spoil it for myself, but I assumed this meant a 'happy' ending of some sort, however it still took the release of the Omega and Citadel DLC's to get me to finally decide to push for the ending again and really find out what this new ending was.

All the good feelings I got from playing the DLC's evaporated as I watched the sequnece for the 4th 'choice'...

This may be the most impressive bit of spoiler-avoidance I've ever heard of.

[daaaav]

McFlurry598 wrote...

It's been what 15..16 months? That's a a year and half man. Over 25+ games have been released since then, get over it. Not everything has to have a happy ending. It was Shepards time, nobody likes and immortal hero(except master chief) The fact that you hate the ending just because you didnt get what you wanted is selfish and disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I liked the ending, not because I got what I wanted(I didn't) because the ending was great. It wasnt  all happy and Disney ****, it was original. The hero dies a heroic death. Saving the galaxy from the reapers..again. You had 3 heroic endings.

I picked control for my paragon and destroy for my renegade. I'm not trying to be a senseless dick, you're only hurting yourself more every time you run back to it

Understood that the OP is a pretty blatant call for a happier ending... BUT... it is folly to believe that the issues of the ending are limited to this one issue alone. 

For many, it wasn't all that original as it clearly draws rather heavily from Deus Ex and features an entity that manages to feature characteristics of a Deus Ex Machina and Star Wars midichlorians at the same time (Catalyst). Hardly original.

The last point about heroic death is equally debatable since it can be convincingly argued that Shepard capitulates to a despicable ideology whilst the attempt to mount any challange is punished with utter failure.


The main issue was NEVER how sad the ending was. 

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McFlurry598 wrote...

It's been what 15..16 months? That's a a year and half man. Over 25+ games have been released since then, get over it. Not everything has to have a happy ending. It was Shepards time, nobody likes and immortal hero(except master chief) The fact that you hate the ending just because you didnt get what you wanted is selfish and disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I liked the ending, not because I got what I wanted(I didn't) because the ending was great. It wasnt  all happy and Disney ****, it was original. The hero dies a heroic death. Saving the galaxy from the reapers..again. You had 3 heroic endings.

I picked control for my paragon and destroy for my renegade. I'm not trying to be a senseless dick, you're only hurting yourself more every time you run back to it

So what if its been 15 or 16 months, not everyone plays the games as soon as they are released, or in this guys case replays it multiple times, does that mean he is not allowed to vent his disappointment. No.

This sentence here "It wasnt  all happy and Disney ****, it was original" nullifies everything that comes after it, because you seem to be under the impression that people don't like the ending, because its not happy, when the real reason most people don't like the ending is because it was a unfinished, badly written mess that broke established lore and jerked people out of the story with the grace of a high speed collision.

Bad writing is bad.

[PMC65]

Mass Effect brought me back to gaming after a decade and I had not realized how invested I'd become until I saw the ME3 ending ... gutted. I couldn't believe that a game could do that to me. A game. But it did. I must have played ME over 20+ times, ME2 about the same ... ME3 once.

I attended the Hollywood ME3 launch party and Casey & Mac were both really excited about how the fans would respond. If you had told me that I was going to hate the "ending" of ME3 that night, I would have called you nuts. But there I was ... hating it. I came here to see what I had missed or misunderstand. Nope. There were others in that boat of WTF?

I really wished that I had liked it as some others did. I wish that the ending(s) made me want to replay the game like the previous two. But instead of dwelling on it, I just use my own headcanon for ME3 and keep enjoying the first two games, You just have to let it go and move on. I know, it sucks.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

I think most people are over it, but this is the ME3 board the ending happened, what else are we going to talk about.