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[Bizinha]

I understand you, OP.

Do not shake the people who minimize their feeling by the end of ME3, many of them are already in acceptance status.

Unfortunately, they had little time or too lazy to do ME3.

[GimmeDaGun]

Bizinha wrote...

I understand you, OP.

Do not shake the people who minimize their feeling by the end of ME3, many of them are already in acceptance status.

Unfortunately, they had little time or too lazy to do ME3.

Such a massive game I wouldn't call a lazy job. 

[spirosz]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

Bizinha wrote...

I understand you, OP.

Do not shake the people who minimize their feeling by the end of ME3, many of them are already in acceptance status.

Unfortunately, they had little time or too lazy to do ME3.

Such a massive game I wouldn't call a lazy job. 

There are lazy or better worded, rushed segments in the game.  

[GimmeDaGun]

spirosz wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

Bizinha wrote...

I understand you, OP.

Do not shake the people who minimize their feeling by the end of ME3, many of them are already in acceptance status.

Unfortunately, they had little time or too lazy to do ME3.

Such a massive game I wouldn't call a lazy job. 

There are lazy or better worded, rushed segments in the game.  

Yeah, that's true. It has a few sloppy moments and aspects. It could have used another half a year of just refining and polishing. Then it would be a truly great game. But as a whole, it's anything but lazy. It is a massive and ambitious project with tons of work and soul put into it. 

[t0riko]

HappyApathy553 wrote...

What does Bioware have against giving an ending where you simply blow the Reapers to bits and live happily ever after?

Destroy? All Reapers die and Shepard lives. And I like that they left the 'happily ever after' part to your imagination. Shepard is alive and the war is over. I think that's pretty darn happy.

[spirosz]

I think their ambitious clouded realistic expectations and what they could achieve with the last game, tbh. Not everything is to blame on the last game because ME2 didn't help either, but that is another argument, haha.

[GimmeDaGun]

Skyllian Blitz wrote...

HappyApathy553 wrote...

What does Bioware have against giving an ending where you simply blow the Reapers to bits and live happily ever after?

Destroy? All Reapers die and Shepard lives. And I like that they left the 'happily ever after' part to your imagination. Shepard is alive and the war is over. I think that's pretty darn happy.

I think his greatest issue with that ending is that it desires sacrafices too (reaper coded enteties die) and that it does not show exacty what happens to Shepard and the (f.ing) LI afterwads. Gee... some people here wanted a scene about the marrige of Shepard with the LI. I start to feel nauseous about all this digital-waifu fetish...

[spirosz]

Morocco Mole wrote...

They literally cannot find anything positive whatsoever. It's always the worst possible outcome. It's both sad and hilarious

^

[Bowhunter4L]

I see the ending as a full circle ending. Let me explain, Shepard ended up getting spaced at the end of ME1 so his squad mates thinks he is dead. ME2 Cerberus puts him back together squad mates can't believe he/ she are alive. ME3 get to see you take a breath. And your LI doesn't put your name on the wall. Why? Because you defied death the first time so they hang onto that hope.

[GimmeDaGun]

Morocco Mole wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...
I think his greatest issue with that ending is that it desires sacrafices too (reaper coded enteties die) and that it does not show exacty what happens to Shepard and the (f.ing) LI afterwads. Gee... some people here wanted a scene about the marrige of Shepard with the LI. I start to feel nauseous about all this digital-waifu fetish...

My favorite part is everyone whining that Shepard might die in the rubble.

They literally cannot find anything positive whatsoever. It's always the worst possible outcome. It's both sad and hilarious

Yeah, some here treat Shepard as their virtual (wannabe) self or ego or something and those damn LIs as their virtual girl- or boyfriends. They take this ME way too seriously and do not let themselves enjoy it as a great game. 

They take everything that does not fit their desires and expectations as a personal offence, some even went mental about it. I find it weird as hell. I mean OP literally couldn't sleep after seeing the ending (if he indeed did not exaggerate). WTF?   I mean, I didn't like the original ending for being rushed and sloppy presentation-wise, but it never had an effect on me personally. 

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 05 juin 2013 - 12:51 .

[t0riko]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

I think his greatest issue with that ending is that it desires sacrafices too (reaper coded enteties die) and that it does not show exacty what happens to Shepard and the (f.ing) LI afterwads. Gee... some people here wanted a scene about the marrige of Shepard with the LI. I start to feel nauseous about all this digital-waifu fetish...

I always feel bad for killing EDI and the geth. But I think it's an acceptable price to pay for destroying the Reapers.
Shepard could have just made the easy choice and jumped into the beam, but no. S/he had the strenght to accept the burden for killing an entire race and a really good friend so that s/he could finish what s/he came to do: to destroy the Reapers once and for all.
Remember all those batarians Shepard had to kill in ME2 to delay the Reapers? Same deal here.

Modifié par Skyllian Blitz, 05 juin 2013 - 12:56 .

[GimmeDaGun]

Skyllian Blitz wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

I think his greatest issue with that ending is that it desires sacrafices too (reaper coded enteties die) and that it does not show exacty what happens to Shepard and the (f.ing) LI afterwads. Gee... some people here wanted a scene about the marrige of Shepard with the LI. I start to feel nauseous about all this digital-waifu fetish...

I always feel bad for killing EDI and the geth. But I think it's an acceptable price to pay for destroying the Reapers.
Shepard could have just made the easy choise and jumped into the beam, but no. S/he had the strenght to accept the burden for killing an entire race and a really good friend so that s/he could finish what s/he came to do: to destroy the Reapers once and for all.
Remember all those batarians Shepard had to kill in ME2 to delay the Reapers? Same deal here.

Of course it does. It is meant to make you feel bad: sacrafices make you feel bad, especially if you have to sacrafice others (a friendship, a relationship whatever) to achieve a goal. Of course Shepard did not know that he would kill the geth and EDI by the destroy option. It only turns out to be that way after the fact. 

[t0riko]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

Skyllian Blitz wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

I think his greatest issue with that ending is that it desires sacrafices too (reaper coded enteties die) and that it does not show exacty what happens to Shepard and the (f.ing) LI afterwads. Gee... some people here wanted a scene about the marrige of Shepard with the LI. I start to feel nauseous about all this digital-waifu fetish...

I always feel bad for killing EDI and the geth. But I think it's an acceptable price to pay for destroying the Reapers.
Shepard could have just made the easy choice and jumped into the beam, but no. S/he had the strenght to accept the burden for killing an entire race and a really good friend so that s/he could finish what s/he came to do: to destroy the Reapers once and for all.
Remember all those batarians Shepard had to kill in ME2 to delay the Reapers? Same deal here.

Of course it does. It is meant to make you feel bad: sacrafices make you feel bad, especially if you have to sacrafice others (a friendship, a relationship whatever) to achieve a goal. Of course Shepard did not know that he would kill the geth and EDI by the destroy option. It only turns out to be that way after the fact. 

Exactly.
And I kind of love making this sacrifice. You get what you want but at a cost.
Also; nobody seems to care about the batarians in ME2. This makes me sad.

[ComfortablyNumb]

ShepnTali wrote...

I understand OP. I do. I eventually got over it. It's still fun to snipe shield guys through the mail slot.

Pretty much this. 

[Bizinha]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Bizinha wrote...

I understand you, OP.

Do not shake the people who minimize their feeling by the end of ME3, many of them are already in acceptance status.

Unfortunately, they had little time or too lazy to do ME3.

A lot of us never got upset about the endings in the first place

Yes, so I said many and not all. 

[t0riko]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Skyllian Blitz wrote...

Also; nobody seems to care about the batarians in ME2. This makes me sad.

Actually, one of the big complaints about Arrival was that you couldn't save the batarians

Most of ME2's flaws have been glossed over in favor of bashing ME3 basically. Pre ME3, ME2 was a terrible dumbed down RPG that ruined Mass Effect

Wow... Can't wait to see what happens when ME4 comes out. 

[chemiclord]

It's like a lot of people don't realize a lot of the things they oh-so-despise in ME3 actually is rooted in ME2.

For example, the autodialogue that is so loathed is pretty much a direct response to the Lair of the Shadow Broker that people loved to death, and said had such an incredible "cinematic" feel.

[Nerevar-as]

Morocco Mole wrote...

I'll just say if that Synthesis actually brainwashed people into being happy all of the time, then Wreav wouldn't be gearing up for war in the Synthesis ending

AFAIK, he doesn´t.

[The Heretic of Time]

dreamgazer wrote...

Seboist wrote...

It's okay man, you're not the only one who failed to notice the ending was "foreshadowed" by the likes of Lazarus.

Or the likes of our favorite MacGuffin-ex-Machina, the Conduit.

LMAO how in the world is the Conduit a Deus Ex Machina? A MacGuffin sure (but not in a bad way, the Conduit is a good MacGuffin), but a DEM? No way son.

[Nerevar-as]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Seboist wrote...

It's okay man, you're not the only one who failed to notice the ending was "foreshadowed" by the likes of Lazarus.

Or the likes of our favorite MacGuffin-ex-Machina, the Conduit.

LMAO how in the world is the Conduit a Deus Ex Machina? A MacGuffin sure (but not in a bad way, the Conduit is a good MacGuffin), but a DEM? No way son.

Crucible and/or Starbrat apologists throw this around a lot. Even if it was true, it still doesn´t make ME3 resolution any better.