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Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

I decided not to read through all the answers.

I will simply laugh.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :lol:

I will do it again:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

The reason you can't hear me laughing is because I'm in Tactical Cloak, and I'm actually hiding over there.


I'm with this guy....  well, no. Not with him, because I know that would be drawing aggro towards him. I'm about 8 feet away, invisible myself. :ph34r:

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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Here I am !
A duration guy.

Ima sure gurls like u.

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Kirchroa Alaaf wrote...

Jack989 wrote...

Duration TGI...come at me brahs.

Do them 4 devies in style.


In pugs it's useless anyways... most of the times everybody rushed to the devices and wants to do the job. And even wen you are the one doing it, there will be PUGS drawing aggro to the device.

Maybe with friends it's usefull, with pugs... no sir.




True, true. I've had pugs stand inches from me while doing a device, while cloaked. Obviously I wasn't happy with the hail of grandes coming my way from 2 possesed scions....it was one of those moments when i snapped and told the pug to sod off through my mic.

But on other (very rare) occasions i've had pugs put up biotic spheres and hex shields to protect me, but then again i would have no need for duration TC if this was the case more often. Still, i love the security the duration TC provides.

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Even shadow can be more effective with damage cloak, the target you just slashed is still alive ( shouldnt be with the right spec and consumables ) use your talon,wraith,claymoar, pirahna, hurricane to finish them, much faster than double slashing......also if you get a hang of her HM just melee kill them, a gold phantom can be taken down with a single slash-shot or melee.....

Tl;dr ? i find duration not so useful on the shadow too

Sayth what ??

Stop being lazy and read above

Modifié par Nik6454, 05 juin 2013 - 01:35 .


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I choose duration only for Shadow. Coupled with bonus power and full melee spec, it's fantastic. Every other Infiltrator gets damage bonus.

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Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

I decided not to read through all the answers.

I will simply laugh.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :lol:

I will do it again:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

The reason you can't hear me laughing is because I'm in Tactical Cloak, and I'm actually hiding over there.

You just gave up your position by laughing. Let's see duration save you now.

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b00g13man wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

I decided not to read through all the answers.

I will simply laugh.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :lol:

I will do it again:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

The reason you can't hear me laughing is because I'm in Tactical Cloak, and I'm actually hiding over there.

You just gave up your position by laughing. Let's see duration save you now.


As an infil all he has to do is step behind a wall press cloak again and watch as the 10 enemies looking at him turn around to batter the batarian across the map.  Duration is well worh it, it's all I use.

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Nik6454 wrote...

Even shadow can be more effective with damage cloak, the target you just slashed is still alive ( shouldnt be with the right spec and consumables ) use your talon,wraith,claymoar, pirahna, hurricane to finish them, much faster than double slashing......also if you get a hang of her HM just melee kill them, a gold phantom can be taken down with a single slash-shot or melee.....

Tl;dr ? i find duration not so useful on the shadow too

Sayth what ??

Stop being lazy and read above


Muhaha, my Shadow can one strike everything sans big bosses(aka Mrs. B and Mr....em... Brute, etc.) without damage cloak so no double slashing Posted Image

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Aetika wrote...

Nik6454 wrote...

Even shadow can be more effective with damage cloak, the target you just slashed is still alive ( shouldnt be with the right spec and consumables ) use your talon,wraith,claymoar, pirahna, hurricane to finish them, much faster than double slashing......also if you get a hang of her HM just melee kill them, a gold phantom can be taken down with a single slash-shot or melee.....

Tl;dr ? i find duration not so useful on the shadow too

Sayth what ??

Stop being lazy and read above


Muhaha, my Shadow can one strike everything sans big bosses(aka Mrs. B and Mr....em... Brute, etc.) without damage cloak so no double slashing Posted Image

Well i did spec into shield drain and DR in SS so cloak + strike for me, also nice to see Mr and Mrs B getting along with you, last time i checked something was not right in your....ahem...arrangment:whistle:

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Yes

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Nik6454 wrote...

Aetika wrote...

Nik6454 wrote...

Even shadow can be more effective with damage cloak, the target you just slashed is still alive ( shouldnt be with the right spec and consumables ) use your talon,wraith,claymoar, pirahna, hurricane to finish them, much faster than double slashing......also if you get a hang of her HM just melee kill them, a gold phantom can be taken down with a single slash-shot or melee.....

Tl;dr ? i find duration not so useful on the shadow too

Sayth what ??

Stop being lazy and read above


Muhaha, my Shadow can one strike everything sans big bosses(aka Mrs. B and Mr....em... Brute, etc.) without damage cloak so no double slashing Posted Image

Well i did spec into shield drain and DR in SS so cloak + strike for me, also nice to see Mr and Mrs B getting along with you, last time i checked something was not right in your....ahem...arrangment:whistle:


I was just trying to be polite. They are still at it.

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The Krauser wrote...

Only infil that has duration is my shadow. That's really it. I don't see the point of taking duration on anyone else at least.



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MaxShine wrote...

Huntress and Shadow are great with duration... Using duration you can get away with a 66660 build on the Huntress and use a power amp. With the Shadow I need duration and bonus power otherwise I will get shot to pieces instantly by any burst fire guy that happens to see me after the Shadow strike

You can have huntress cloak specced for damage and have that build anyways. slap a BW on her and there are few things in the game which could get the best of her.

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Hmmm... I only have duration on the Shadow. Would it be worth using on the mQI and Huntress, who are CQC/shotgun infs? AIU is definitely sticking with damage... RM makes her near impossible to kill already.

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Aetika wrote...

Nik6454 wrote...

Aetika wrote...

Nik6454 wrote...

Even shadow can be more effective with damage cloak, the target you just slashed is still alive ( shouldnt be with the right spec and consumables ) use your talon,wraith,claymoar, pirahna, hurricane to finish them, much faster than double slashing......also if you get a hang of her HM just melee kill them, a gold phantom can be taken down with a single slash-shot or melee.....

Tl;dr ? i find duration not so useful on the shadow too

Sayth what ??

Stop being lazy and read above


Muhaha, my Shadow can one strike everything sans big bosses(aka Mrs. B and Mr....em... Brute, etc.) without damage cloak so no double slashing Posted Image

Well i did spec into shield drain and DR in SS so cloak + strike for me, also nice to see Mr and Mrs B getting along with you, last time i checked something was not right in your....ahem...arrangment:whistle:


I was just trying to be polite. They are still at it.

Well better make some batarian friends, i heard they are good at dealing with armor,pink ones are hot this time of the year it seems

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I use both. TBH duration is good it can, in relation to flimsy characters, make the difference between life or death. However on characters with restorative powers i.e. TGI, SI, N7 SI and so on it isn't entirely necessary.

Although it doesn't make you completely invisible it does throw the enemy off for a few seconds. I have realised that even though the enemies can see you they tend to miss shots more often when cloaked. They also pause for a second or two before they start firing on you thus buying you time to get out of dodge if needs be.

I agree with Tallgeese about duration being game changing. What comes to mind especially is the devices objective that were mentioned, also hacks and reviving.

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Duration on GI, TGI, and AIU. Come at me.

I use FQI for Jav sniping, so she actually gets the damage evo. A two second damage boost on an automatic (GI and TGI) seems pretty lackluster to me.

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Duration is the best for infiltrators, if they must shut down objects.

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i only cloak when i'm about to shoot so damage for me. 5 seconds is plenty of time to be a medic too.
i try to do the 4 devices all the time whether or not i'm an infiltrator.

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I still remember how choosing between duration and damage was actually a headache for me right after the TC nerf.

These days choosing damage is a no brainer. The better you get at the game, the less you miss duration (save for very rare situations).

And yes, Shadow is the only infiltrator that does go better with duration.

Also, rojojuan, stop spamming the forums.

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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

I am going to be honest with you.

The other day when I was playing my duration specced GI against London/Gold/Geth and got 4 device hacking for all objectives, mostly centered ones..

It would have been utterly impossible if I wasn`t duration Infiltrator(as infiltrator).
Just saying.

I won`t argue that 80% damage is better than 40% damage boost most of the time, but it is nothing game changing.
Duration, can be game deciding when the right moment hits.


+3 vorpal post of sharpness!

Ever try to solo a deactivate objective solo, or on PLATINUM?  You'll be wanting duration then I assure you.  It's what I run on my SHADOW.

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I spec duration on my GI and Human infil, that's about it. Great for objectives as noted.

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soulstriker09 wrote...

Remember the times when general BSN concensus was that you spec duration to be the teamfiltrator...

I do... I do...


That was really before more details about how Tactical Cloak (doesn't) work became widespread knowledge.  Nowadays we know that enemies are programmed to ignore it in most of the kinds of situations where you'd WANT a longer cloak duration, so aside from doing objectives it is seen as detrimental to a character's performance to take Duration over the option that's more useful in every other situation that isn't a 1234.

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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

I am going to be honest with you.

The other day when I was playing my duration specced GI against London/Gold/Geth and got 4 device hacking for all objectives, mostly centered ones..

It would have been utterly impossible if I wasn`t duration Infiltrator(as infiltrator).
Just saying.

I won`t argue that 80% damage is better than 40% damage boost most of the time, but it is nothing game changing.
Duration, can be game deciding when the right moment hits.


I agree with you on this.  I only play PUGs.  Duration has saved the game plenty of times.  If you run with a team then there is no need to spec duration.  I go back and forth with duration on certain classes.