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#126
ndw542

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"A worthless power evo? IMPOSSIBRU!!"
- Prox Mine 5b, Slow

"Yeah, no such thing. Haters gonna hate."
- Throw 6b, Recharge Speed

"I have to admit, I am objectively worthless."
- Lash 6a, Fast Recharge

"At least we can all agree that there are no powers that are completely worthless, right guys? ...Right?"
- Pull

#127
The Mysterious Stranger

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If it increased the duration with 400% I might would take it on a few infiltrators.

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You can still play well and inflict decent damage on enemies with the duration bonus. I don't see the duration spec as a huge handicap, and it can come down to personal preference. Sometimes it is nice to have a cushy 10 seconds or so of invisibility. And 4-point objectives can make or break a match, something which duration can help out a lot in.

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4 devices. I'm sure someone said it before.

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The Mysterious Stranger

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ndw542 wrote...

"A worthless power evo? IMPOSSIBRU!!"
- Prox Mine 5b, Slow

"Yeah, no such thing. Haters gonna hate."
- Throw 6b, Recharge Speed

"I have to admit, I am objectively worthless."
- Lash 6a, Fast Recharge

"At least we can all agree that there are no powers that are completely worthless, right guys? ...Right?"
- Pull


Yes pull really sucks. If it wouldn't be for acolyte and phantoms I would never spec 6 rank in it. But that don't change the fact that it's sucks, it's just acolyte that make it useble and phantoms that make it needed. Because one shot + pull +reave, across big part of the map with minimal effort, is quit nice. But many weapon can do that too, but most of them is not very power friendly, but Graal is ok.

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The Mysterious Stranger

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Deerber wrote...

4 devices. I'm sure someone said it before.


Most often to short to do any diffrent any way. 

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quebra wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

If you want to solo devices just play a volus mercenary sentinel. Cloak + decoy > duration cloak. To get guys soloing devices with duration cloaks; has it ever occured to you that if you didnt spec a useless evolution on your most important ability you might not have to solo so much?


Perhaps consider that I'm soloing the objective because everyone else is dead?  Consider that properly equipped, I can still remain cloaked and 2 cut almost anything (brute) on GOLD properly speced.  Granted extended duration makes NO sense what so ever on say the HUNTRESS, but on a SHADOW it makes perfect sense.

While the SHADOW so specd can actually contribute some DPS, the same cannot be said of that VOLUS.

Please don't mention a gun-crutch (ie. "if I were armed with a Harrier x, or a PPR, 10, etc.).  A gun-crutch can compansate for any crap build... it's more about the gun than it is the character/player.


Perhaps if you specced properly your team wouldnt have beern overrun in the first place? 

"Gun-crutch" .... What kind of non-sense is that? Play with good guns. 

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KalilKareem wrote...

quebra wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

If you want to solo devices just play a volus mercenary sentinel. Cloak + decoy > duration cloak. To get guys soloing devices with duration cloaks; has it ever occured to you that if you didnt spec a useless evolution on your most important ability you might not have to solo so much?


Perhaps consider that I'm soloing the objective because everyone else is dead?  Consider that properly equipped, I can still remain cloaked and 2 cut almost anything (brute) on GOLD properly speced.  Granted extended duration makes NO sense what so ever on say the HUNTRESS, but on a SHADOW it makes perfect sense.

While the SHADOW so specd can actually contribute some DPS, the same cannot be said of that VOLUS.

Please don't mention a gun-crutch (ie. "if I were armed with a Harrier x, or a PPR, 10, etc.).  A gun-crutch can compansate for any crap build... it's more about the gun than it is the character/player.


Perhaps if you specced properly your team wouldnt have beern overrun in the first place? 

"Gun-crutch" .... What kind of non-sense is that? Play with good guns. 


Oh I see it's a speccing problem on my part?

So yer saying, my saving the match round after round isn't good enuff, and that somehow my build causes 3 other people to die round after round, while I go on to carry the thing?  Try again ya gun-crutcher!

My profile is public.

#134
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I tend to go for duration since I PUG and without fail, someone will go down in a place where only a duration cloak infiltrator can even make it past safely...

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Bleachrude wrote...

I tend to go for duration since I PUG and without fail, someone will go down in a place where only a duration cloak infiltrator can even make it past safely...

It's entirely possible to sneak in for revives with any character, as long as there isn't a boss unit literally standing on top of his body.

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The Mysterious Stranger wrote...

Deerber wrote...

4 devices. I'm sure someone said it before.


Most often to short to do any diffrent any way. 


THAT is a load of bull it does make a massive difference, if you fail doing these on duration you're clearly doing something wrong..

Duration for 4 Devices = win, unless of course you're lone then you only have your strategy to rely on.

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Los Aukilani wrote...

The Mysterious Stranger wrote...

Deerber wrote...

4 devices. I'm sure someone said it before.


Most often to short to do any diffrent any way. 


THAT is a load of bull it does make a massive difference, if you fail doing these on duration you're clearly doing something wrong..

Duration for 4 Devices = win, unless of course you're lone then you only have your strategy to rely on.


Especially a wave 10 device on certain maps (Hello London)

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Nik6454 wrote...

Aetika wrote...

Nik6454 wrote...

Aetika wrote...

Nik6454 wrote...

Even shadow can be more effective with damage cloak, the target you just slashed is still alive ( shouldnt be with the right spec and consumables ) use your talon,wraith,claymoar, pirahna, hurricane to finish them, much faster than double slashing......also if you get a hang of her HM just melee kill them, a gold phantom can be taken down with a single slash-shot or melee.....

Tl;dr ? i find duration not so useful on the shadow too

Sayth what ??

Stop being lazy and read above


Muhaha, my Shadow can one strike everything sans big bosses(aka Mrs. B and Mr....em... Brute, etc.) without damage cloak so no double slashing Posted Image

Well i did spec into shield drain and DR in SS so cloak + strike for me, also nice to see Mr and Mrs B getting along with you, last time i checked something was not right in your....ahem...arrangment:whistle:


I was just trying to be polite. They are still at it.

Well better make some batarian friends, i heard they are good at dealing with armor,pink ones are hot this time of the year it seems


Ok, so I ran some extensive tests and it turned out, that Pink Batarian won´t save a thing , but he sure was hot.
<3

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Aetika wrote...
Ok, so I ran some extensive tests and it turned out, that Pink Batarian won´t save a thing , but he sure was hot.
<3


Bonus points for being stylish.

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Aetika wrote...

Ok, so I ran some extensive tests and it turned out, that Pink Batarian won´t save a thing , but he sure was hot.
<3


Dear lord, what did I just watch?
:o

#141
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Some people (not necessarily including myself) don't find damage output to be their best form of survivability (yes, I'm bringing up the other thread you started). For certain objectives, or to allow enough time for a proper awareness of their situation, some people find Duration to be invaluable.

I used to spec TC for Duration because I was "the objective guy". But then I realized I pretty much did everything anyway, so I opted for damage output to optimize MY play style. Emphasis on 'my'.

Different things work for different players at different levels of difficulty.

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This thread is silly. The 'duration' evo makes cloak last longer. That's its use. Some evos do literally nothing, and at least one actually makes the power worse.

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Damage all the way....but i wont knock those who pick duration. If thats what some players feel comfortable with then more power to them :P

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TMB903 wrote...

Damage all the way....but i wont knock those who pick duration. If thats what some players feel comfortable with then more power to them :P


I played my duration GI once with you and dragonracer on Condor.
I am not sure if you remember, but I think I did really well.

I can guarantee you I could have done far better if I was hosting and no better if I was damage specced.

#145
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If you can use cloak to become actually invisible and like the extra duration then it's not useless.

If you want to use cloak to make things less alive faster, then it's considerably more irrelevant.

#146
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Depends. Duration has saved me a few times especially since I would always PUG. I always go damage on shotgun Claymore and Sniper Infiltrators though.

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Can make a big difference to Device and Hack objectives for the team and allow for tricky revives . Only use it on the Shadow myself but always welcome a duration specced Inf in the team for those reasons.

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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Duration, can be game deciding when the right moment hits.

Amen!

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PC players wanted the tc balance and yet complain about it.

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TMB903

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@Joker Dat avatar...niceeee