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[Dova]

Dovaaa wrote...

schalafi wrote...

Lobos1988 wrote...

Anders died.

Not in my game. After defeating Meridith, he and my Hawke disappeared into the night.
I wonder what the devs have done to reconcile the games that kept Anders alive. It should be interesting!

As did mine ~ Yay for Anders<3 

Lobos1988 wrote...
He cannot get a big role... a cameo is the best thing that can happen to you... 

So... when did you get signed onto the DA:3 developement team?
Anything can happen to Anders.

Lobos1988 wrote...
they'd have to ressurect that whimp and that would ****** off as many people as him not even getting emntioned if kept alive...

Or they may pull another stunt like they did in Awakening with Anders.
But if you killed him happy go lucky you and the others who killed Anders, but don't say that we only should get a cameo if he survived. He may become a companion DLC or in-game without DLC or he might get a cameo. But wtf dude. What about us who romanced him? Should we get a slap across the face just because you and others don't like him and killed him? 

Modifié par Dovaaa, 06 juin 2013 - 08:00 .

[Harle Cerulean]

Dovaaa wrote...

But if you killed him happy go lucky you and the others who killed Anders, but don't say that we only should get a cameo if he survived. He may become a companion DLC or in-game without DLC or he might get a cameo But wtf dude. What about us who romanced him? Should we get a slap across the face just because you and others don't like him and killed him?

Why should your LI be so much more important than all the others?  

Modifié par Harle Cerulean, 06 juin 2013 - 08:05 .

[Lulupab]

Anders can be a replacement companion but I doubt that. Devs being lazy and all to make a character for only a group of people who kept Anders alive which should be around 50% of players, give or take.

[Dave of Canada]

schalafi wrote...

I wonder what the devs have done to reconcile the games that kept Anders alive. It should be interesting!

He'll probably be no better than a gibbering animal after the few years between DA2 and DA3.

[Lulupab]

Dave of Canada wrote...

schalafi wrote...

I wonder what the devs have done to reconcile the games that kept Anders alive. It should be interesting!

He'll probably be no better than a gibbering animal after the few years between DA2 and DA3.

Lol the hate. I'm sure you are familiar with the smile on Anders face when he is killed by Hawke. I only did it to see what happens. That was like true happiness. best death scene in DA2 hands down.

Meredith on the other hand had the most horrific death scene in whole games Bioware ever created. She screamed because of legendary amounts of pain and started oi turn into a lyrium statue inside out. Losing hands and lower body while she had consciousness. Nothing less than desevred to be honest.

Modifié par Rassler, 06 juin 2013 - 08:14 .

[NRieh]

For me, you have to look at DA2 this way; it's Varric's story. I have my own head-canon where because he's telling the story, he's grouping all the important events together. if you look at it that way it's not Year 1, it's Years 1-3.

Yeah, I know (million hugs to whoever invented that "unreliable narrator" trick, I adore it, really). (And BW players can headcanon some sense even into ME3 endings, lol)

But isn't Varric one of first things to happen with Hawke in a chapter? I'm not saying he appears on day 1 after their servitude ends, but Anders is there for a while when Hawke meets Varric. And I don't see how "years" of teaching mages could happen. Shame, but those epilogues ( that were once declared "heresy and rumors", remember?) is the only source we've got. As much as I like this character and his arc - I don't understand why couldn't DAA-DA2 link be more timeline (and events)friendly. Both those who liked Anders and those who disliked him were not happy about how it was handled. And Helper's "short story" does not help, unfortunately. It's good from poetic point, and I like it, but it's useless as source of facts.

[Lulupab]

Nrieh wrote...

For me, you have to look at DA2 this way; it's Varric's story. I have my own head-canon where because he's telling the story, he's grouping all the important events together. if you look at it that way it's not Year 1, it's Years 1-3.

Yeah, I know (million hugs to whoever invented that "unreliable narrator" trick, I adore it, really). (And BW players can headcanon some sense even into ME3 endings, lol)

But isn't Varric one of first things to happen with Hawke in a chapter? I'm not saying he appears on day 1 after their servitude ends, but Anders is there for a while when Hawke meets Varric. And I don't see how "years" of teaching mages could happen. Shame, but those epilogues ( that were once declared "heresy and rumors", remember?) is the only source we've got. As much as I like this character and his arc - I don't understand why couldn't DAA-DA2 link be more timeline (and events)friendly. Both those who liked Anders and those who disliked him were not happy about how it was handled. And Helper's "short story" does not help, unfortunately. It's good from poetic point, and I like it, but it's useless as source of facts.

I agree, Anders could have been a much more successful character. He is one of the 3 forced companions that we have no way of not recruiting. They are Anders, Aveline and Varric who form the best party anyway. Avelive + Varric + Anders + any class/spec Hawke is a good party that has everything needed. Tank, healer, dps.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I admit, I do kind of want to see Anders again but only if they acknowledge all the different ways he and Hawke could have parted company. Plus it could be interesting to see how the person tasked with solving the war sees the person who started it, at least if they give you multiple optiions.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 06 juin 2013 - 08:24 .

[Dave of Canada]

Rassler wrote...

Lol the hate. 

I don't see how stating the obvious means hate but okay.

[Solmanian]

I'm under the impression, that when there isn't a blight going on wardens (for the most part) are pretty laid back.

[Rawgrim]

The wardens are supposed to be neutral. With Anders blowning up the chantry, I guess he wasn`t very neutral. This should not only make mages look bad, but also the wardens, no?

[Mr.House]

Dovaaa wrote...

Dovaaa wrote...

schalafi wrote...

Lobos1988 wrote...

Anders died.

Not in my game. After defeating Meridith, he and my Hawke disappeared into the night.
I wonder what the devs have done to reconcile the games that kept Anders alive. It should be interesting!

As did mine ~ Yay for Anders<3 

Lobos1988 wrote...
He cannot get a big role... a cameo is the best thing that can happen to you... 

So... when did you get signed onto the DA:3 developement team?
Anything can happen to Anders.

I killed that terrorist, he better stay dead in DA3.

[BlazingSpeed]

Rassler wrote...

Anders can be a replacement companion but I doubt that. Devs being lazy and all to make a character for only a group of people who kept Anders alive which should be around 50% of players, give or take.

That's what I want to know Bioware previously stated that only 5% of Dragon Age Origins players even bothered to choose non human races (dwarves...) dispite all of the Belen Vs Harrowmount topics that are still alive to this very day.

I also wonder what the "Default" choices will be for people like me who skipped over DA2 (or who rented DA2 and did not like it...).

Lol at that short story it's like there are three Anders characters out there now...

[LobselVith8]

PlasmaCheese wrote...

Unless DA:I is taking place 20-ish years after 9:40, then Anders's Calling isn't for awhile.

Technically, Anders may never go through his Calling because of his symbiosis with Justice. Grey Wardens can live up to thirty years with the taint, although the developers address that it varies from person to person, so it isn't an absolute. With Anders being possessed by Justice, he may have been cured of the taint, per Gaider: "One is that the spirit within Anders can affect the level of his corruption, so it may delay or remove the necessity for his Calling altogether. Either that or at some point the corruption within Anders is going to corrupt the spirit."

[KENNY4753]

I think that is will likely be Justice playing a big role in DA3 but in Anders body. Anders will lose control and Vengence will be an antaginist/rival...

[Lulupab]

"David Gaider stated that Anders being merged with Justice may have one of the two effects on his Calling: "One is that the spirit within Anders can affect the level of his corruption, so it may delay or remove the necessity for his Calling altogether. Either that or at some point the corruption within Anders is going to corrupt the spirit." He refused to tell which one the writers prefer due to the possibility of Anders appearing in future games."

From: http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Anders - Trivia section.

So I wonder was it really Anders anger than made Justice vengeful or was it his corruption? Nothing like what happened to Anders and Justice ever happened to another mage who meged with a spirit. No one even called them an abomination.

Modifié par Rassler, 07 juin 2013 - 02:25 .

[KENNY4753]

I think the corruption of Justice came from the taint in Anders. that makes more sense then Anders had too much hate

[TK514]

KENNY4753 wrote...

I think the corruption of Justice came from the taint in Anders. that makes more sense then Anders had too much hate

I can certainly see that.  Or a combination.  The Taint made Justice more succeptible to Anders' deep seated anger/hate.

[PlasmaCheese]

LobselVith8 wrote...

PlasmaCheese wrote...

Unless DA:I is taking place 20-ish years after 9:40, then Anders's Calling isn't for awhile.

Technically, Anders may never go through his Calling because of his symbiosis with Justice. Grey Wardens can live up to thirty years with the taint, although the developers address that it varies from person to person, so it isn't an absolute. With Anders being possessed by Justice, he may have been cured of the taint, per Gaider: "One is that the spirit within Anders can affect the level of his corruption, so it may delay or remove the necessity for his Calling altogether. Either that or at some point the corruption within Anders is going to corrupt the spirit."

Ah, thanks for reminding me. This I already knew. Even people who Joined together may get their Calling at different times. I think it may just be "delayed". Anders can still "hear" Darkspawn, like other Wardens. Then his whole insanity "voices in my head" thing in Legacy. This all makes me want to do a PT where Anders lives. D:

[Angrywolves]

nah to all those who say Anders or Justice will play a huge role. If you killed Anders he's dead. If you saved him you'll see him in a cameo or maybe some minor role.

[Lulupab]

Angrywolves wrote...

nah to all those who say Anders or Justice will play a huge role. If you killed Anders he's dead. If you saved him you'll see him in a cameo or maybe some minor role.

If Anders is killed Justice will get a big enough role because its neccessary to conclude his story.

[Angrywolves]

and not hawke's or the warden's. You're dreaming pal. Justice isn't important.

[Lulupab]

Angrywolves wrote...

and not hawke's or the warden's. You're dreaming pal. Justice isn't important.

Hawke and Warden indeed got a conclusion. You simply want more. My hawke escaped with Isabela's ship, yor did something as well. It had a conclusion. Same is the is the with warden.

BTW this might interest you, pal

David Gaider wrote...

If you decided to kill Anders does he really die?

Yes. If you killed him, he's really dead. Justice may be another story.

Found here:
http://social.biowar...x/10947666&lf=8 (search the word Justice with ctrl + F to find the post)

Modifié par Rassler, 07 juin 2013 - 04:47 .

[Angrywolves]

Anders is dead and justice is back in the fade where he belongs.

[Lulupab]

Angrywolves wrote...

Anders is dead and justice is back in the fade where he belongs.

He is trapped outside of the fade. Its something about the magic that sent him here.