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[Kalas747]

Seival wrote...


I have an interesting perspective on the matter:

(1) There was no 100% guarantee the vaccine would work. What next?
(2) What if Ellie is indeed the only one immune? Kill her and lost the chance to invent the cure forever? No way.
(3) Protecting Ellie so she can grow up and have her own kids looks like a long, but much more effective way to find a real cure.

Joel is a smart person. I'm sure he kept all of this in mind while making his decision. I believe the decision was only partially selfish.

I thought the same thing when I was watching the ending.  But even if it guaranteed a cure, it wouldn't have been worth it.  Humanity is not worth saving if it requires those kinds of sacrifices.  It would have been cliche if they made the ending any other way, especially if you look at the trend in other recent video games. 

Bioware should hire the story writer for The Last of Us.  It's the first long story campaign in while that I didn't feel like I wasted my time by playing it.

Wondering if anybody else hit the three surgeons in the operating room with a shotgun blast to the face...

[Eterna]

simfamSP wrote...

Kalas747 wrote...

Seival wrote...


I have an interesting perspective on the matter:

(1) There was no 100% guarantee the vaccine would work. What next?
(2) What if Ellie is indeed the only one immune? Kill her and lost the chance to invent the cure forever? No way.
(3) Protecting Ellie so she can grow up and have her own kids looks like a long, but much more effective way to find a real cure.

Joel is a smart person. I'm sure he kept all of this in mind while making his decision. I believe the decision was only partially selfish.

I thought the same thing when I was watching the ending.  But even if it guaranteed a cure, it wouldn't have been worth it.  Humanity is not worth saving if it requires those kinds of sacrifices.  It would have been cliche if they made the ending any other way, especially if you look at the trend in other recent video games. 

Bioware should hire the story writer for The Last of Us.  It's the first long story campaign in while that I didn't feel like I wasted my time by playing it.

Wondering if anybody else hit the three surgeons in the operating room with a shotgun blast to the face...

Long? That campaign was about 10 hours.

Took me 19 hours on hard. Seems like you rushed. 

[Eterna]

When I played the Hospital chapter, I thought "what the hell man, just because you can't let her go you doom all of humanity? You're the villain here!" Then after a while I thought that the chances of this having any positive impact is small, and perhaps he made the right choice... or is that just me justifying what he's done?
Clichés (or lack of them)

Nah you're just trying to justify it. Like most people who agree with what Joel did.

What Joel did wasn't a good choice, it was not a heroic choice. It was a very human and very selfish choice, it was a choice most people would take. And that is the point, humanity is selfish.

[Naughty Bear]

Eterna5 wrote...

When I played the Hospital chapter, I thought "what the hell man, just because you can't let her go you doom all of humanity? You're the villain here!" Then after a while I thought that the chances of this having any positive impact is small, and perhaps he made the right choice... or is that just me justifying what he's done?
Clichés (or lack of them)

Nah you're just trying to justify it. Like most people who agree with what Joel did.

What Joel did wasn't a good choice, it was not a heroic choice. It was a very human and very selfish choice, it was a choice most people would take. And that is the point, humanity is selfish.

Humanity at this point is beyond saving. David was just a small example of what exists in that universe. humanity will never be the same.

Its selfish to give humanity even a small chance of hope when it is so far down the toilet, Fireflies will no doubt use the cure as leverage/blackmail against any resistance or military. Nobody should have that sort of power. It isn't just a cure, but also a weapon in the wrong hands.

If Marlene was willing to sacrifice a child for the "greater good", then she is capable of "sacrificing" a lot more in the future.

And even if a cure was made, how will it be distributed across the globe?

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 13 août 2013 - 02:37 .

[Seival]

Kalas747 wrote...

Seival wrote...


I have an interesting perspective on the matter:

(1) There was no 100% guarantee the vaccine would work. What next?
(2) What if Ellie is indeed the only one immune? Kill her and lost the chance to invent the cure forever? No way.
(3) Protecting Ellie so she can grow up and have her own kids looks like a long, but much more effective way to find a real cure.

Joel is a smart person. I'm sure he kept all of this in mind while making his decision. I believe the decision was only partially selfish.

I thought the same thing when I was watching the ending.  But even if it guaranteed a cure, it wouldn't have been worth it.  Humanity is not worth saving if it requires those kinds of sacrifices.  It would have been cliche if they made the ending any other way, especially if you look at the trend in other recent video games. 

Bioware should hire the story writer for The Last of Us.  It's the first long story campaign in while that I didn't feel like I wasted my time by playing it.

Wondering if anybody else hit the three surgeons in the operating room with a shotgun blast to the face...

I killed the one who said he will stop me, and the one who called me animal. Spared the third one, because she didn't look hostile.

Modifié par Seival, 13 août 2013 - 03:46 .

[Kalas747]

Naughty Bear wrote...


If Marlene was willing to sacrifice a child for the "greater good", then she is capable of "sacrificing" a lot more in the future.

I thought the fireflies were the selfish ones.  Too cowardly to live in what the world had become and willing to kill ellie just to make themselves feel more comforatable.  Damn unitarian scumbags.  Nothing needs to be justified.  Joel made the right choice and it was no more selfish than anything the fireflies wanted for themselves.

[Seival]

All TLoU fans unite! Golden Joystick Awards 2013 await for your votes

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[Kalas747]

Anybody buying the map packs that are released for MP today or would the season pass be a better buy because of the single player DLC this December?

[spirosz]

simfamSP wrote...
Long? That campaign was about 10 hours.

Took me 20+.  

[spirosz]

Kalas747 wrote...

Anybody buying the map packs that are released for MP today or would the season pass be a better buy because of the single player DLC this December?

They confirmed SP DLC?  Can I get a link? 

[SlottsMachine]

spirosz wrote...

Kalas747 wrote...

Anybody buying the map packs that are released for MP today or would the season pass be a better buy because of the single player DLC this December?

They confirmed SP DLC?  Can I get a link? 

Here's one. Its not much.

[spirosz]

Ah, I don't really care about the MP stuff, but that SP DLC sounds interesting. I guess we're going to a carnival.

[Kalas747]

spirosz wrote...


They confirmed SP DLC?  Can I get a link? 

Here is another link

So I take it nobody has the season pass and nobody here is too interested in the MP part?  I enjoy the MP quite a bit, these new maps look awesome.

[spirosz]

Left Behind Teaser

[spirosz]

[TheChris92]

Gotta love how some of the people on that video gets their knickers in a twist over not playing as gruff-generic-hairy-handsome-protagonist number #1000000000

Looking forward to a DLC with more Ellie!

[CrazyRah]

spirosz wrote...

Left Behind Teaser

Now this makes this panda very, very happy

[SlottsMachine]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

spirosz wrote...

Left Behind Teaser

Looks interesting, but I don't see how it would work gameplay-wise. Ellie learned how to use a gun and fight during the course of the main game, right? So wouldn't that mean a prequel DLC with her couldn't have combat?

She throws beer bottles till they die. And bricks, don't forget bricks. 

Modifié par General Slotts, 16 novembre 2013 - 04:18 .

[SlottsMachine]

Or you play as the black kid, maybe she's a badass.