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ok after 2+ years of duking it out with this game, with alomst no sign of relief in sight or small improvements. i hope this new beast rig my dad found at a pawn shop can finally do something good.

it's a custom gaming rig, a true custom gaming rig a 600v power supply. cpu, amd fx-6200 six-core processor at 3.80ghz.
ram 16 gigs 12 usable.
win 7 64 bit, (you couldn"t pay me to run win 8)

graphics card, nividia geforce gtx 570.

it has some overclocking stuff, but i'm not touching it.

if this beast can't run the game even decently, i consider the game a failure and bioware messed up big time on it. and i still say the 15 gigs is an unreasonable file size, and i am convinced mostly there is something harmful in the game's coding.

but since i am not used to nividia cards are there any tweaks, adjustments, etc... that can help this buggy game.

and i do like the game, if i didn't the disk would have been target practice within a week or so of getting it. that is why i am fighting it, and have been for as long as i have. i remember on my older account jetfox some told me i hate the game. i also lost my dlc purchases when i abandoned it.

i had to after a site started stalking that account. the anime reality, not sure what thorn they have up their ass about me, but i had no knowledge of them till i googled one of my net aliases. so i figure they had nothing better to do, i wasn't about to let them stalk me any longer so i scatered my accounts the best i could.

but thankfully i still had my steam purchase on record, so i didn't have to waste more money on this game then i already have. but since i can't get the dlc's through steam i lost them all. and i find that just cruel. all i can say is the email i used was wildrivr@windstream.net on my old account anything beyond that i don't remember it has been just to long ago. and i don't want to pay twice.<_<

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kakotan

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Hows it playing for ya man ?

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I ran the game at full resolution, high on an 8800 GT with, 8 gig of ram. It played fine. Now I play it on a much better computer, but it played fine on one worse than yours.

Up to date drivers, and this post from the Nexus forums

'vertigofm' said
I'm getting an extra 20FPS.

How? I went into the Nvidia control panel -> manage 3D settings -> Dragon Age

There is an option called "Threaded Optimization". It says it allows the program to take advantage of multiple CPUs

I have a dual core so I thought I'd try it, forced it on.... Wow. Big difference.

Give it a try!

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Any other settings to make it look better ??

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Yes, graphical and texture settings = Very High.

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They're not going to do anything to accomdate you. The game seems to run ok on other pcs. Your pc probably isn't as good as you think it is.

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Angrywolves wrote...

They're not going to do anything to accomdate you. The game seems to run ok on other pcs. Your pc probably isn't as good as you think it is.


Who are you talking to ? I think you misunderstood what ppl were talking about, I myself have a good PC but i wanted to know other nvidea tweaks to get all i can out of my PC for DAO

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Still stuttered, same old progressive stutter i had on my older machine. I was not surprised though i tried every fix i could find even putting it on a seperate partition did almost nill.

I have finally given up on the pc version, it runs decently on my ps3 so i'll live with that. Pc version has been a nightmare since day one. I wanted it to work but irnoy is cruel. On a good note it runs almost all my other games without much fuss so one game out of 10+ is a good deal.

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To whithering

I'm done with dao, but a few games i have still have issues with multicores, and i finally found the nividia control panel i'm used to ati's one being in the start menu. So hopefully that will take care of any hiccups i have with my other picky games.

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Are you getting any stuttering after an hour or so of gameplay? DAO has some nasty memory leaks that can be fixed by just relaunching the game though I'm sure you are probably well aware of it already. Just thought I'd mention it.

Modifié par Ridirkulous, 15 juin 2013 - 11:06 .


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lol my laptop sucks and I can play it fine. You must have awful luck.

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Ridirkulous wrote...

Are you getting any stuttering after an hour or so of gameplay? DAO has some nasty memory leaks that can be fixed by just relaunching the game though I'm sure you are probably well aware of it already. Just thought I'd mention it.


yep that's the exact issue, or at least the most obvious. It does have random crashing as well. And yeah i have been battling the memory leak since i found out about the memory leak. My most common search regarding the game for several years was anything to fix the memory leak. I found fixes that helped others but not me.

but i hate having to reload the game every hour or so, when bioware should at least make an effort to look at the issue at all, but from what i have gone through nothing was even bothered with. I can run even the glitchy skyrim for over an hour easily and it has higher requirements.

as far as the leak, ugh i could literally watch it eat my ram 1% every minute or so. I have a gauge that shows ram use. But it seemed the farther i got in the game the stutter would graduly become a nightmare, going from 1 hour roughly to only a few minutes before it had a damned heart attack. And people whine about fallout 3's stability, bs i can handle it's problems far better. And most of the issues i have are from the massive amount of mods i have.

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FaWa wrote...

lol my laptop sucks and I can play it fine. You must have awful luck.


trust me i believe you 100% i came to a conclusion that the game simply hates me.

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torchburner wrote...
as far as the leak, ugh i could literally watch it eat my ram 1% every minute or so. I have a gauge that shows ram use.


I seem to recall that running the game on one core fixes that for some people.

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I've had similar problems awhile back with the memory leaks and the crashing. I did notice that the game would tend to crash under certain circumstances though. Most of my crashes occurred inside the Mage Tower with the desire demon, when using the templar's smite ability, using Wynne's spirit font and upon first entering Dust Town upon entering Orzammar. Dust Town in particular required over a half dozen reloads before I could get through it.

Saving right before the expected crash seemed to help, though that might of just been sheer luck on my end. That and avoid using any abilities that are prone to crash. I have never tried hyper threading though so I might actually give that a shot myself.

Still, I highly doubt Bioware will fix the game now as they have longed since moved on. It's a shame as this is easily one of my favorite games from this past generation. One just has to hope some talented individual is willing to sift through the game code in the tool set and iron things out.

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Memory leaks tend not to be something that can be fixed by toolsets, it's usually something in the core code.

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Ridirkulous wrote...

I've had similar problems awhile back with the memory leaks and the crashing. I did notice that the game would tend to crash under certain circumstances though. Most of my crashes occurred inside the Mage Tower with the desire demon, when using the templar's smite ability, using Wynne's spirit font and upon first entering Dust Town upon entering Orzammar. Dust Town in particular required over a half dozen reloads before I could get through it.

Saving right before the expected crash seemed to help, though that might of just been sheer luck on my end. That and avoid using any abilities that are prone to crash. I have never tried hyper threading though so I might actually give that a shot myself.

Still, I highly doubt Bioware will fix the game now as they have longed since moved on. It's a shame as this is easily one of my favorite games from this past generation. One just has to hope some talented individual is willing to sift through the game code in the tool set and iron things out.


Open Task-Manager, processes, right click on DAOriginsLauncher.exe, select affiniation (don't know if I translated that right), leave only two CPUs and deactivate the rest.

At least that's what worked for me. I am quite sure that I translated some of the things wrong, because I live in austria and everything on my computer is written in German. Hopefully you'll be able to figure out what I meant.

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Albistein wrote...

Open Task-Manager, processes, right click on DAOriginsLauncher.exe, select affiniation (don't know if I translated that right), leave only two CPUs and deactivate the rest.

At least that's what worked for me. I am quite sure that I translated some of the things wrong, because I live in austria and everything on my computer is written in German. Hopefully you'll be able to figure out what I meant.


Thanks for the tidbit as I thought I might have tried this before when I apparently haven't. I typically don't have to much trouble with crashing anyways though I'll keep it in mind if I ever come across the issue again. The right-click menu option was also listed as "Set affinity" with my US install of windows. Still close enough to get the gist.

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metatheurgist wrote...

torchburner wrote...
as far as the leak, ugh i could literally watch it eat my ram 1% every minute or so. I have a gauge that shows ram use.


I seem to recall that running the game on one core fixes that for some people.


yep been there done that, one of the many things i tried. for me it just made the game run worse. besides i don't want to have to do that with one game when the rest can at least cope with multi cores, supported or not. fallout 3 is by far the next biggest culprit, but it can at least run stable far more often and better, even with my mods. dao with or without mods is a constant headache.

i am honestly ashamed at bioware for this crap. beth is not a perfect company by far, and on release their games mostly are a glitch\\bug feast. the amount a patches on the nexus is only a tip of the iceberg. and yet their games run better. that is sickening to me, i see games as art but i can not call bioware true artists because for an artist even the smallest problem eats you and unless you can't fix it you will almost kill yourself to at least try.

dao has had at least on the ps3 all the same issues even on ultimate, i was shocked to see that, 3 years and they couldn't at least flip the templar armor  on the female city elf... what load of bs. that is laziness and if any of these people were artists the passion has died completely. even though i have not been drawing much i still have that passion. and i expected far better from a company that branched off of ea, they are not perfet either but have more passion the bioware will most likely ever have.

and that is the sadest part, dao has potential i can easily see that, and having to give up on it after so much effort is maddening. but trying to fix it just gives me stress, and with the issues i have now i don't need any stress that is not life or death.

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Ridirkulous wrote...

I've had similar problems awhile back with the memory leaks and the crashing. I did notice that the game would tend to crash under certain circumstances though. Most of my crashes occurred inside the Mage Tower with the desire demon, when using the templar's smite ability, using Wynne's spirit font and upon first entering Dust Town upon entering Orzammar. Dust Town in particular required over a half dozen reloads before I could get through it.

Saving right before the expected crash seemed to help, though that might of just been sheer luck on my end. That and avoid using any abilities that are prone to crash. I have never tried hyper threading though so I might actually give that a shot myself.

Still, I highly doubt Bioware will fix the game now as they have longed since moved on. It's a shame as this is easily one of my favorite games from this past generation. One just has to hope some talented individual is willing to sift through the game code in the tool set and iron things out.


yes i heard about the smite issue, but i never had it. and pretty much the only one i didn't have thank god. what would happen for me was, i would load the game and play it as normal, i didn't like the highest settings the game was too dark and that made it harder to see in caves, etc...

but over time about 10 minutes to an hour if i was lucky or not the game would start to stutter, and i would watch my gauge go up as it got to the 40% mark the stutter would get more frequent  at 45% it could get to almost a slide show, the lag for looting opening doors and enemies to respawn would be an extreme test of paitence. around 47% and beyond crashing was pretty much the next thing that would happen. and this could be quick or slow it all depended on whether the wanted to ****** me off or make the torture slow. and from day one i still say 15 gigs is bs filesize and i beleive completely that something in the game is harmful. because the content doesn't justify the filesize at all. borderlands has more content, heck amenisa has more to it, and that is just unreal to me.