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Deerber wrote...

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What do you consider a solid xbox time for solo gold?


22 mins and below


Regardless of map and objectives?  Or is the 22 minutes more of a rough guideline?


I'd say that to get 22 mins on xbox the following must all be true:

a) you're a very good player

B) you're using a very good setup for speedrunning. Saber on a Marksman is not a very good setup.

c) depending on how good the setup is, you'll have to be on certain maps and not on others.

d) you'll need the right objectives, regardless of anything else.


Pretty much this

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I would feel bad if I used up all my level 3 and 4 stuff on gold when I could use it in a team on plat which is faster and more credits for URs

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GriM_AoD wrote...

 typo: by not zooming in/out repeatedly **


Lol, every console game has some aim assist - you use what you have to work with.  TO is already playing with slow arse joysticks.  Seems to me an unjustified objection.  I would infer that you would also object to pc guys putting medigel button on the mousewheel to assist in reload cancel?  Or pc guys having extra buttons on the mouse.

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Deerber wrote...

Judging from what I've seen here in some months, I'd say that to get 22 mins on xbox the following must all be true:

a) you're a very good player

B) you're using a very good setup for speedrunning. Saber on a Marksman is not a very good setup.

c) depending on how good the setup is, you'll have to be on certain maps and not on others.

d) you'll need the right objectives, regardless of anything else.


Yeah, I'd have to say I agree. Honestly, from what I've seen MasterReefa is a very good player and I think that was a solid gold run, to say that he should be able to cut 12 minutes off of that, with the same objectives... to make it a good run.. I don't know if it's possible!

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Nice title. I was thinking of using the same thing for the headshot competition Slim is doing.

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caineghis2500 wrote...

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Nice solo! I keep noticing the significant time differences with xbox and pc solo's. I think early thirties for xbox is pretty solid... from the word on the street.


Then yer hearing from the wrong source


What do you consider a solid xbox time for solo gold?


22 mins and below


How many solos have you done Cain in 22 mins and below? And if you did any, were they all on Glacier with an OP class? ;)

22 minutes and below is not a solid Xbox time, it is an amazing Xbox time and it is usually dependent on using a specific map/enemy/character/weapon combination.

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Deerber wrote...

I'd say that to get 22 mins on xbox the following must all be true:

a) you're a very good player

B) you're using a very good setup for speedrunning. Saber on a Marksman is not a very good setup.

c) depending on how good the setup is, you'll have to be on certain maps and not on others.

d) you'll need the right objectives, regardless of anything else.


OT: nice to see the quarian with a saber get some love ;) Nice run. Although I still wonder why you are all so masochists and play against Geth. I'm guessing on host Phantoms, but still... I'd never play against Geth if I can avoid it.


Soloing isn't my thing.  It is almost a totally different skill set then playing a team speed run or synergy game with teammates.  I practice on lower difficulites, but still need work.

Line item D is what concerned me most.  What if you got a large map with unfavorable objectives.  22 minutes sounds fast to me then.  But what do I know??

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So caineghis2500 has been challanged to do the solo with same setup 12 minutes faster? Nice. Ur move, Cain.

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ryoldschool wrote...

GriM_AoD wrote...

 typo: by not zooming in/out repeatedly **


Lol, every console game has some aim assist - you use what you have to work with.  TO is already playing with slow arse joysticks.  Seems to me an unjustified objection.  I would infer that you would also object to pc guys putting medigel button on the mousewheel to assist in reload cancel?  Or pc guys having extra buttons on the mouse.

lol, no.

I was just pointing out that if you'd rather not have aim assist interfere - repeated zooming in and out (which is making active use of it) is not recommended,

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 classy cain.
Good job Reefa, guess there's no need for me to do that now :wizard:

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Ghostknife72 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

I'd say that to get 22 mins on xbox the following must all be true:

a) you're a very good player

B) you're using a very good setup for speedrunning. Saber on a Marksman is not a very good setup.

c) depending on how good the setup is, you'll have to be on certain maps and not on others.

d) you'll need the right objectives, regardless of anything else.


OT: nice to see the quarian with a saber get some love ;) Nice run. Although I still wonder why you are all so masochists and play against Geth. I'm guessing on host Phantoms, but still... I'd never play against Geth if I can avoid it.


Soloing isn't my thing.  It is almost a totally different skill set then playing a team speed run or synergy game with teammates.  I practice on lower difficulites, but still need work.

Line item D is what concerned me most.  What if you got a large map with unfavorable objectives.  22 minutes sounds fast to me then.  But what do I know??


I can safely tell you, if you get the very wrong objectives, on the very wrong map... You ain't gonna go under 25 minutes, no matter what **** you can pull off. And that's on pc.

Objective grinding is by far the worst part of solos. And that's saying something.

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Deerber wrote...

Ghostknife72 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

I'd say that to get 22 mins on xbox the following must all be true:

a) you're a very good player

B) you're using a very good setup for speedrunning. Saber on a Marksman is not a very good setup.

c) depending on how good the setup is, you'll have to be on certain maps and not on others.

d) you'll need the right objectives, regardless of anything else.


OT: nice to see the quarian with a saber get some love ;) Nice run. Although I still wonder why you are all so masochists and play against Geth. I'm guessing on host Phantoms, but still... I'd never play against Geth if I can avoid it.


Soloing isn't my thing.  It is almost a totally different skill set then playing a team speed run or synergy game with teammates.  I practice on lower difficulites, but still need work.

Line item D is what concerned me most.  What if you got a large map with unfavorable objectives.  22 minutes sounds fast to me then.  But what do I know??


I can safely tell you, if you get the very wrong objectives, on the very wrong map... You ain't gonna go under 25 minutes, no matter what **** you can pull off. And that's on pc.

Objective grinding is by far the worst part of solos. And that's saying something.


Yup.

Btw next fastest PC Saber Marksman solo I know of was by Lord_Sirian in 24min vs either Geth or Collectors on FBW with 10 Waves Survived. I don't know if he was actually speedrunning it, but judging by 10WS he would have nuked a few spawns and gotten decent objectives.

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Deerber wrote...

Ghostknife72 wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

Prestacious wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

Prestacious wrote...

Nice solo! I keep noticing the significant time differences with xbox and pc solo's. I think early thirties for xbox is pretty solid... from the word on the street.


Then yer hearing from the wrong source


What do you consider a solid xbox time for solo gold?


22 mins and below


Regardless of map and objectives?  Or is the 22 minutes more of a rough guideline?


Judging from what I've seen here in some months, I'd say that to get 22 mins on xbox the following must all be true:

a) you're a very good player

B) you're using a very good setup for speedrunning. Saber on a Marksman is not a very good setup.

c) depending on how good the setup is, you'll have to be on certain maps and not on others.

d) you'll need the right objectives, regardless of anything else.


OT: nice to see the quarian with a saber get some love ;) Nice run. Although I still wonder why you are all so masochists and play against Geth. I'm guessing on host Phantoms, but still... I'd never play against Geth if I can avoid it.

Easy headshots. Executioner pistol is more fun against them IMO.

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Deerber wrote...

Judging from what I've seen here in some months, I'd say that to get 22 mins on xbox the following must all be true:

a) you're a very good player

B) you're using a very good setup for speedrunning. Saber on a Marksman is not a very good setup.

c) depending on how good the setup is, you'll have to be on certain maps and not on others.

d) you'll need the right objectives, regardless of anything else.


OT: nice to see the quarian with a saber get some love ;) Nice run. Although I still wonder why you are all so masochists and play against Geth. I'm guessing on host Phantoms, but still... I'd never play against Geth if I can avoid it.


Agree on all counts, and for some reason it does just take longer on console. Aside from pizza running, I think it's overall the slower input reaction and slower AI on console - also I'm pretty sure there are some indescrepencies with load times and the way the game timer works across platforms.

Geth usually not my first choice, but if you spec into Sabotage you might as well take advantage of that (even though you're letting them steal your kills) and no synch-kill units is always nice.

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I prefer Geth to Cerberus, because they are really slow, have short range and I prefer a Geth Turret through a wall to a Cerberus Turret that makes me waste 2 gels and an Ops pack.

And if Sabotage is an option, like with QMM, I'd pick Geth any day.

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d_nought wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Ghostknife72 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

I'd say that to get 22 mins on xbox the following must all be true:

a) you're a very good player

B) you're using a very good setup for speedrunning. Saber on a Marksman is not a very good setup.

c) depending on how good the setup is, you'll have to be on certain maps and not on others.

d) you'll need the right objectives, regardless of anything else.


OT: nice to see the quarian with a saber get some love ;) Nice run. Although I still wonder why you are all so masochists and play against Geth. I'm guessing on host Phantoms, but still... I'd never play against Geth if I can avoid it.


Soloing isn't my thing.  It is almost a totally different skill set then playing a team speed run or synergy game with teammates.  I practice on lower difficulites, but still need work.

Line item D is what concerned me most.  What if you got a large map with unfavorable objectives.  22 minutes sounds fast to me then.  But what do I know??


I can safely tell you, if you get the very wrong objectives, on the very wrong map... You ain't gonna go under 25 minutes, no matter what **** you can pull off. And that's on pc.

Objective grinding is by far the worst part of solos. And that's saying something.


Yup.

Btw next fastest PC Saber Marksman solo I know of was by Lord_Sirian in 24min vs either Geth or Collectors on FBW with 10 Waves Survived. I don't know if he was actually speedrunning it, but judging by 10WS he would have nuked a few spawns and gotten decent objectives.


Thanks fellas!

Honest question though, does it eventually become fun to do?

Because as of right now...I'd rather go back and get another vasectomy then solo.  :unsure:

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jkthunder wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Judging from what I've seen here in some months, I'd say that to get 22 mins on xbox the following must all be true:

a) you're a very good player

B) you're using a very good setup for speedrunning. Saber on a Marksman is not a very good setup.

c) depending on how good the setup is, you'll have to be on certain maps and not on others.

d) you'll need the right objectives, regardless of anything else.


OT: nice to see the quarian with a saber get some love ;) Nice run. Although I still wonder why you are all so masochists and play against Geth. I'm guessing on host Phantoms, but still... I'd never play against Geth if I can avoid it.


Agree on all counts, and for some reason it does just take longer on console. Aside from pizza running, I think it's overall the slower input reaction and slower AI on console - also I'm pretty sure there are some indescrepencies with load times and the way the game timer works across platforms.

Geth usually not my first choice, but if you spec into Sabotage you might as well take advantage of that (even though you're letting them steal your kills) and no synch-kill units is always nice.

I tried Dagger/Cerberus like the original but it was just way too sloppy.

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Ghostknife72 wrote...


Thanks fellas!

Honest question though, does it eventually become fun to do?

Because as of right now...I'd rather go back and get another vasectomy then solo.  :unsure:


If you have a whole bunch of consumables and nothing better to do with them, yeah

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dumdum2 wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

Prestacious wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

Prestacious wrote...

Nice solo! I keep noticing the significant time differences with xbox and pc solo's. I think early thirties for xbox is pretty solid... from the word on the street.


Then yer hearing from the wrong source


What do you consider a solid xbox time for solo gold?


22 mins and below


How many solos have you done Cain in 22 mins and below? And if you did any, were they all on Glacier with an OP class? ;)

22 minutes and below is not a solid Xbox time, it is an amazing Xbox time and it is usually dependent on using a specific map/enemy/character/weapon combination.


I've done 2 speed runs.

1st was 21:22
2nd was 19:27
Hard to believe since I never recorded it but yea I did 2

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Ghostknife72 wrote...

Honest question though, does it eventually become fun to do?

Because as of right now...I'd rather go back and get another vasectomy then solo.  :unsure:


Some people never like soloing because they just prefer to play with friends, others hate it because of how long it takes.

If you're in the first camp, nothing will make it fun, if you're in the second one, it does become a lot more fun once you can get them done fast.

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Zjarcal wrote...

Ghostknife72 wrote...

Honest question though, does it eventually become fun to do?

Because as of right now...I'd rather go back and get another vasectomy then solo.  :unsure:


Some people never like soloing because they just prefer to play with friends, others hate it because of how long it takes.

If you're in the first camp, nothing will make it fun, if you're in the second one, it does become a lot more fun once you can get them done fast.


Indeed.  Our little group seems a bit dead atm, though.

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Lol@the title


Also, new vids! :)

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Ghostknife72 wrote...

Honest question though, does it eventually become fun to do?

Because as of right now...I'd rather go back and get another vasectomy then solo.  :unsure:


Some people never like soloing because they just prefer to play with friends, others hate it because of how long it takes.

If you're in the first camp, nothing will make it fun, if you're in the second one, it does become a lot more fun once you can get them done fast.


Indeed.  Our little group seems a bit dead atm, though.


I have finals atm so don't expect to see anything from me apart from ****ty CoD videos from 2 weeks ago

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Ghostknife72 wrote...

Honest question though, does it eventually become fun to do?

Because as of right now...I'd rather go back and get another vasectomy then solo.  :unsure:


Some people never like soloing because they just prefer to play with friends, others hate it because of how long it takes.

If you're in the first camp, nothing will make it fun, if you're in the second one, it does become a lot more fun once you can get them done fast.


Indeed.  Our little group seems a bit dead atm, though.


Personally, I haven't been playing almost at all in the last week or so. I'm also low on amps.

The group's formed mainly of very experience players, most of us have been playing this game for about a year or so. It's just normal that the interest in it comes and goes. The important thing is that it keeps coming sometimes :)

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

Indeed.  Our little group seems a bit dead atm, though.


I can't properly play with my internet connection atm, disconnects all the time (several per hour). I was lucky to be able to pull of some games last week, but it's not looking good right now. :pinched:

That and I'm too immersed on Remember Me right now. :wizard: