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[Sinsational]

NinjaWJ wrote...

Ser Gilmore - That guy was cool, a real Knight. I hope he survived....

He doesn't.

[Krytheos]

Out of all the possible companions, I'd have to say I myself find weeping at some of the losses. Oh, a sad story thoust doust weave!



1. Cullen. He was just so flustered when I used the 'We could discuss this somewhere else...' option..!

2. Jowan. While he was cowardly to a degree, he was effective beyond reason. Even without your help, he gets into the place, destroys phylactery, gets free, then if you get the option, he can go into the fade and defeat the Desire demon himself. Grey Warden material at that. Plus, he seems repetant, and a chance to harden him could definitely make things interesting, no? And as someone before said..



Cullen: If I might ask, why do we travel with a known Maleificar? A rather whiny sort, too.

Jowan: Hey! I am not whiny! I'm just..extremely anxious at times!

Cullen: Oh? Then please do forgive my rudeness,mage, because after that last fight, I could see you nearly shaking.

Jowan: Oo-h, that..that was me shaking w-with anticipation...you know..in case we were ambushed! Those things happen, you know!

Cullen: ....I see. Well, my question still stands; why are we traveling with this...Blood Mage?

PC: He seems truly repetant, that's why. And I say we give him a second chance; not all Blood Mages are bad, you know.

Cullen: That..remains to be seen. We should get moving, in any case.

Cullen Disapproves -6.

Jowan Approves +9.



3. Daveth. He was just so..charming! And practical. Ultimately, he would've been a great Grey Warden. Riordan-level, I can just see it.

4. Bandit Leader. Not just charming, but practical, and his voice. His voice was just...awesome! He was a really great guy, for a Bandit.

5. Ser Cauthrien. Just..Ser Cauthrien.

6. Fergus. Funny, comical, and if you were in a romance, it would definitely put things awkwardly, as someone said..



Fergus: Zevran. I hear you and my little sis have been getting...along quite well.

Zevran: Well, yes, things have been going quite lovely, wouldn't you think so? Not only is she beautiful, but deadly. I can think of no downside to serving the whims of a deadly sex goddess. (Chuckle.)

Fergus:....right, well, disregarding that...

Zevran: Ah, yes, that is right...I am terribly sorry, my friend. I forgot she is your younger sibling. I imagine hearing such things is..not exactly something you would enjoy hearing, no? Well, then. What is it you wanted to say?

Fergus: Indeed. Well, I wanted to ask your opinion on something.

Zevran: Oh? What is it, then?

Fergus: Well, I have these baby pictures of her when she was little. I was wondering if you could..

PC: F-fergus!

Fergus: ..what? They're only baby pictures..but I do also have some interesting tales, too, if you'd care to hear them?

Zevran: Ooh. Now this should be good. Go on, my friend!

PC: C-can we just move on, and...not talk about my childhood? Please?

Fergus: So you would like to hear them? Very well, then! Prepare to be dazzled, amazed, perhaps even incredulous, when you hear of the time she climbed up into the cabinet where our cook stores some of the lard she uses...

PC: ...Ugh..Not that one!

Zevran: Ooh. Now that sounds like an adventure! Exciting! I would be delighted to hear this story!

PC: Maker's breath....If the darkspawn don't kill me, embarrasment surely will..!



7. Leske. I mean, come on. No option to turn him against Jarvia? I'd imagine two best buds would be great friends still, and not like..total enemies? It was sad when I couldn't persuade him. It was a sad day for my Female Dwarf Commoner..

8. Senior Enchanter Torrin. From the gists I got, he was pretty awesome. His voice, too. Sensible, and all-around good guy. Be a shame to waste.

9. Dwyn. Like someone else, I thought he was a recruitable party member. One of the persuade options, which I wish had been..you know..useful, had the 'Sleep with me' option, and I found that very interesting at first, till I discovered no matter the Persuasion you have, he won't do it.

10. Kolgrim. Leonidas-style Cult worshipper with axe that kicks ass? Check. Handsome looks? Check. Voice that just rocks? Check!

11. Gorim. As Ser Cauthrien above, just Gorim!

12. Niall.

13. Someone mentioned Mouse before...second that!

14. Tamlen. It was just..so sad during the Shriek attack. It really was..especially his last dialogue. I really wished I could've saved him..really do.



And that's...all I have, really. And I realize this list is exstensive, and such, so take with it what you will, and I realize the majority are...well. Iffy, but hey, I can dream, can't I? I can dreeeeam...!

[Lotion Soronarr]

spiritage wrote...

2. Cullen.. you could just see him with Morrigan and he'd be all "WHY ARE WE TRAVELING WITH AN APOSTATE?!"




YES. someone go mod NAOW

Already in the wroks. Cullen and Jowan..and ..other..people.
If you love Cullen so much, you could help with writing his dailogue ya know...That goes for all of you Cullen/Jowan fangirls.

[draxynnus]

Kiwiya wrote...

draxynnus wrote...

You know, I find it curious that people consider Jowan and Wynne to be an either/or choice. While Jowan is a blood mage and we know Wynne disapproves, he does also appear genuinely repentant for what he's done (otherwise you'd expect him to just run for it if released from prison, which he only does if threatened and then only reluctantly), and Wynne seems like she would be willing to give him a second chance under those circumstances - especially since her own personal quest has to do with her perceived failure with another apprentice. When you get down to it, wasn't Jowan also failed by the system?

If you save the whole tower with your blood magic and then are geniunely repentant... she still risks the future of Ferelden and the Circle to attack you and get herself and everyone else killed. D:
For someone supposedly so reasonable, she's a huge hypocrite. Lol, it'd be like Leiliana recruiting Kolgrim.

Did you actually have that happen? As far as I know, the only things that trigger an instant betrayal are siding with Cullen (reasonable, since siding with Cullen basically means declaring an intent to kill every mage in the Tower, including herself) and defiling the Ashes. Using blood magic with her around will generally lead to big approval losses, but on the other hand, I let the blood mage that surrendered in the tower go, and if Wynne disapproved it wasn't by a large amount.

For romance - I don't think Jowan should be romancable. I suspect he'd be more inclined to try to free Lily and win her back.

I could see Wynne expressing disapproval at Jowan being recruited, and her expressing her opinion regarding blood magic to Jowan at every opportunity, but I don't think it would be instant abandonment material.

[Hyper Cutter]

devilsgrin wrote...

Cauthrien would be an interesting companion... especially for her potential banter with Sten - who doesn't think women can be warriors... but i just can't see Where we would gain her... we see her only once at Ostagar - in the cutscene where Loghain betrays Ferelden. then not again until much later in the game...i mean just before the Landsmeet, and only slightly earlier when she captures you (or you "kill" her) at Arl Howe's palace...

The obvious choice would be talking her into joining you when she confronts you at the Landsmeet. Or moving the fight to after it and let you either convince her to join you as atonement...

[Kiwiya]

draxynnus wrote...
Did you actually have that happen? As far as I know, the only things that trigger an instant betrayal are siding with Cullen (reasonable, since siding with Cullen basically means declaring an intent to kill every mage in the Tower, including herself) and defiling the Ashes. Using blood magic with her around will generally lead to big approval losses, but on the other hand, I let the blood mage that surrendered in the tower go, and if Wynne disapproved it wasn't by a large amount.

For romance - I don't think Jowan should be romancable. I suspect he'd be more inclined to try to free Lily and win her back.

I could see Wynne expressing disapproval at Jowan being recruited, and her expressing her opinion regarding blood magic to Jowan at every opportunity, but I don't think it would be instant abandonment material.

Accidentally, yes. Instead of pesuading her, Irving and Greagoir that my blood magic was just "seekrit warden spells," I went with the regular lines and she flipped out and attacked me. D:

It could have just been a thing of the moment, though, I guess. Being surrounded by abominations and all your dead friends and finding out your savior is a blood mage too, right after watching Irving tortured and whatnot... eh, anyone probably would've flipped out. Maybe she'd be more receptive of Jowan later, but I still think it'd take a pretty hard persuasion check to get her in a party with him. x)

[Krytheos]

It likely would be a difficult check. Jowan, despite his earnest intent to repent, [rhyme not intended.] The Blood Magic could cause one to sway towards tempt, and be forswent into the whole cluster, despite his fluster, and Wynne would then verily pin it all on him.



All rhyming aside, Wynne would disapprove soley because of him being a Blood Mage at first, I imagine, but if shown he to be truly repetant, then it could definitely steer her into more approvals, but that might take a few [probably more than a few], persuasion checks, and/or good approval standing. Which is a bad thing, because my approval with her is basically like asking Ogrhen to sober up once in awhile -- in other words, very low.



Other than the blood mage bit, I imagine if he proves himself and all, she'd welcome him. Eventually.

[Legbiter]

Ser Cauthrien and Jowan would have been my picks. Alas, the Grey Wardens in Ferelden consisted of my PC and Alastair. I bet the meanest scullery maid at Weisshaupt fortress could have pulled rank on us at that point in time.

Modifié par Legbiter, 20 janvier 2010 - 07:37 .

[Selej]

Ser Cauthrien as she be awesome.



Fergus cause well, would have been fun to have both Couslands running wild and destroying Darkspawn together!



Ser Gilmore - Seemed like such a good guy, would have been fun having a bodyguard/servant in the group.



Can't forget about Mama Cousland...she would give Leliana a run for her money with archery

[nimzar]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

9. Kitty! Need a demon cat for Dog to play with.

THIS!

lol ...seriously though, Jowan really should have stayed playable.  A four mage party would be deadly... and awesome to boot. 

[draxynnus]

Krytheos wrote...

It likely would be a difficult check. Jowan, despite his earnest intent to repent, [rhyme not intended.] The Blood Magic could cause one to sway towards tempt, and be forswent into the whole cluster, despite his fluster, and Wynne would then verily pin it all on him.

All rhyming aside, Wynne would disapprove soley because of him being a Blood Mage at first, I imagine, but if shown he to be truly repetant, then it could definitely steer her into more approvals, but that might take a few [probably more than a few], persuasion checks, and/or good approval standing. Which is a bad thing, because my approval with her is basically like asking Ogrhen to sober up once in awhile -- in other words, very low.

Other than the blood mage bit, I imagine if he proves himself and all, she'd welcome him. Eventually.

That's pretty much what I was thinking. Big, initial hit (possibly up to -40, which is apparently her disapproval for cutting a deal with the Tevinter mage in the alienage), with following conversations with her on the subject of Jowan allowing you the opportunity to get those points back and possibly even come out in the lead. This could possibly be extended by Jowan doing things she approves of while she's in the party, which in game mechanical terms would be represented by Wynne increasing her approval of you when Jowan does something she approves of.

(This could possibly be further explored if Jowan has a 'hardening' mechanic - encouraging him to repent and seek redemption will ultimately lead to gaining approval from the "good" characters and possibly losing some from 'power at any cost' characters like Morrigan, while encouraging him to give in to the temptation that blood magic offers has the opposite result.)

[Solica]

Only Cauthrien and Kylon.



I think a lot about Riordan, and also the commander of the Legion of the Dead. But it's pretty clear they are cast in roles that can never be joinable.



Another I often think about is Allison, I do hope she got away, while the darkspawn were entangled in her traps.

[RobinMichelleB]

For a mage, I thought it would make sense to be able to recruit either Jowan (after you find him in Redcliffe, if you forgive him) and/or Cullen, especially if you are female. I really could have believed Cullen giving up being a templar for a female mage character, if he thought she was honorable enough, and especially if you were nice to him in the origin story.



As a human noble, I thought it would be cool to get Ser Gilmore on your side. He seemed really cool. I thought Dairren might have been a cool option too. He seemed eager to defend Ferelden, and I haven't figured out what happened to him yet... but maybe you never do.