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"If the essence of life is information carried in DNA, then society and civilization are just colossal memory systems and a metropolis like this one, simply a sprawling external memory."


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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
I just want to know.... would synthesis... no, never mind. I had this thought about if synthesis would make it easier for them to fillet salmon, but then realized that with synthesis it wouldn't be salmon anymore.

I wonder if those circuit bits are crunchy...


Wait a minute, would the fish have the same enlightened state of being that all others supposedly have thanks to the magic green-beam?  Singing dolphins next?

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Try eating a salad now...

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

We've had Seival, Auldie, and now David in this thread. The circle is complete!


It will be glorious!


We must prepare ourselves for ascension.

Modifié par Ravensword, 07 juin 2013 - 08:18 .


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Wait, can people even die after synthesis? They can have kids and the green beam cures the genophage, but can they die from old age?

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Ravensword wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

We've had Seival, Auldie, and now David in this thread. The circle is complete!


It will be glorious!


We must prepare ourselves for ascension.


Is my salad greener than usual? And glowing?

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Ravensword wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

We've had Seival, Auldie, and now David in this thread. The circle is complete!


It will be glorious!


We must prepare ourselves for ascension.


Yes. All organics shall ascend! It is your our genetic destiny!!

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

We've had Seival, Auldie, and now David in this thread. The circle is complete!


It will be glorious!


We must prepare ourselves for ascension.


Is my salad greener than usual? And glowing?


That's normal; nothing to be worried about. Now, get in the Reaper smoothie machine!

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Seival wrote...

"If the essence of life is information carried in DNA, then society and civilization are just colossal memory systems and a metropolis like this one, simply a sprawling external memory."

This idea from the GITS: Innocence... it's genius. And recently I imagined - what if the Catalyst would say something like that?...

...Well, actually it said something like that, but differently. A Reaper is not just a harvester made of harvested lives. It is also a storage of colossal memory systems. Contained essence of life... in other words - preserved life. This means the Catalyst preserved life in each Cycle in two ways: made sure the new life will flourish, and the harvested lives were not wasted.

To be harvested by the Reapers is not to be killed.
The essence of Harvested people is still alive, preserved in the Reaper form.
Killing a Reaper is a crime. Crime equal to the genocide. And total disrespect of the ones who came before us.


Ok. For the slow ones in the peanut gallery. Giant lasers, don't save you. Niether does being blended into a Reaper milkshake. Your life stops.

Now, if the game ever, EVER, went into showing us that this genetic memory crap worked for the Reapers, then you might, might, have an arguement. However, this still doesn't make giant lasers our salvation.

Nor does it give a free pass to the Reapers doing nothing to solve the problem they are trying to solve.

If I crush a termite in my house, without taking care of the nests, so that my wooden house will continue to survive, I'm not helping the problem. There's no reason I shouldn't call an exterminator to take care of the root of the issue.

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
Is my salad greener than usual? And glowing?


uuuhhh...

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tickle267 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
Is my salad greener than usual? And glowing?


uuuhhh...

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That's how I like my veggies.

But seriously...what the hell does it do with things like these? Even Joker's hat has those weird circuits in them. Is it now one with the universe as well?

Modifié par KiwiQuiche, 07 juin 2013 - 12:00 .


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Thank God this is a video game, cause some of you lot are scaring me with this BS talk.

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Try eating a salad now...

Joke's on you, people don't need to eat after synthesis. Everyone just does photosynthesis, why do you think everything's so green?

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Greylycantrope wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Try eating a salad now...

Joke's on you, people don't need to eat after synthesis. Everyone just does photosynthesis, why do you think everything's so green?


Speculation chloroplasts for everyone!  :D

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TheRealJayDee wrote...

"Turning people into goo isn't killing them, it's actually something positive"


According to the Synthesis ending, that "goo" can come back to life. Even husks become self-aware, remember?

Harvested people... their essence can't be considered as dead. They are alive.

Let's say someone you care about was heavily wounded, and lost consciousness. There were complications and the person fall into a coma. Doctors are able to save the person, but warned you the person will most likely lost all memories if survive. Doctors asked you to decide - let the person die, or help the person to survive even if the memories will be lost.

What will you choose? Do you consider the unconsciousness person who will lost the memories after awaking as dead? Personally, I consider the person alive, and I will ask the doctors to help.



Killing husks and Reaper ships is like killing unconsciousness persons who did nothing bad to your kind.

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Seival wrote...

TheRealJayDee wrote...

"Turning people into goo isn't killing them, it's actually something positive"


According to the Synthesis ending, that "goo" can come back to life. Even husks become self-aware, remember?

Harvested people... their essence can't be considered as dead. They are alive.

Let's say someone you care about was heavily wounded, and lost consciousness. There were complications and the person fall into a coma. Doctors are able to save the person, but warned you the person will most likely lost all memories if survive. Doctors asked you to decide - let the person die, or help the person to survive even if the memories will be lost.

What will you choose? Do you consider the unconsciousness person who will lost the memories after awaking as dead? Personally, I consider the person alive, and I will ask the doctors to help.


Killing husks and Reaper ships is like killing unconsciousness persons who did nothing bad to your kind.


Headcanon! The only thing that comes anywhere near that is Kenji, and
we're not even sure what that scene means because there is zero context.

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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Seival wrote...

TheRealJayDee wrote...

"Turning people into goo isn't killing them, it's actually something positive"


According to the Synthesis ending, that "goo" can come back to life. Even husks become self-aware, remember?

Harvested people... their essence can't be considered as dead. They are alive.

Let's say someone you care about was heavily wounded, and lost consciousness. There were complications and the person fall into a coma. Doctors are able to save the person, but warned you the person will most likely lost all memories if survive. Doctors asked you to decide - let the person die, or help the person to survive even if the memories will be lost.

What will you choose? Do you consider the unconsciousness person who will lost the memories after awaking as dead? Personally, I consider the person alive, and I will ask the doctors to help.


Killing husks and Reaper ships is like killing unconsciousness persons who did nothing bad to your kind.


Headcanon! The only thing that comes anywhere near that is Kenji, and
we're not even sure what that scene means because there is zero context.


You consider that as "headcanon" only because you refuse (or unable) to understand the body language in soldier-and-the-husk scene of Synthesis ending.

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Unfortunatly for your little mind projection  fallacy slimy goo is just slimy goo.

Modifié par Fixers0, 07 juin 2013 - 08:13 .


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These treads never end well, it only takes the smallest detail for them to unravel

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Seival wrote...

TheRealJayDee wrote...

"Turning people into goo isn't killing them, it's actually something positive"


According to the Synthesis ending, that "goo" can come back to life. Even husks become self-aware, remember?

Harvested people... their essence can't be considered as dead. They are alive.

Let's say someone you care about was heavily wounded, and lost consciousness. There were complications and the person fall into a coma. Doctors are able to save the person, but warned you the person will most likely lost all memories if survive. Doctors asked you to decide - let the person die, or help the person to survive even if the memories will be lost.

What will you choose? Do you consider the unconsciousness person who will lost the memories after awaking as dead? Personally, I consider the person alive, and I will ask the doctors to help.

Killing husks and Reaper ships is like killing unconsciousness persons who did nothing bad to your kind.


I'd let them die.

I don't consider the husks or goo as living. It's goo. 

You seem to have a different definition of life than most, but respect us when we say that goo is just goo. 

I'd rather die than live in that kind of existence.

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If I was turned into a husk, and I suddenly got my awareness back, I'm pretty sure I'd grab the soldier's gun and finish the job if he refuses to.

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Seival wrote...

TheRealJayDee wrote...

"Turning people into goo isn't killing them, it's actually something positive"


According to the Synthesis ending, that "goo" can come back to life. Even husks become self-aware, remember?

Harvested people... their essence can't be considered as dead. They are alive.

Let's say someone you care about was heavily wounded, and lost consciousness. There were complications and the person fall into a coma. Doctors are able to save the person, but warned you the person will most likely lost all memories if survive. Doctors asked you to decide - let the person die, or help the person to survive even if the memories will be lost.

What will you choose? Do you consider the unconsciousness person who will lost the memories after awaking as dead? Personally, I consider the person alive, and I will ask the doctors to help.

Killing husks and Reaper ships is like killing unconsciousness persons who did nothing bad to your kind.


I'd let them die.

I don't consider the husks or goo as living. It's goo. 

You seem to have a different definition of life than most, but respect us when we say that goo is just goo. 

I'd rather die than live in that kind of existence.


Didn't I tell you to get into the Reaperbucks' blender?

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Seival wrote...

According to the Synthesis ending, that "goo" can come back to life.

Where is this shown? I'll wait here for a bit while you take your time making up some long answer proclaiming the reapers are nice cuddly bears.

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It isn't. The only thing we do know is that it contains a data archive, one which I would be more than happy to erase.

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Seival wrote...
You consider that as "headcanon" only because you refuse (or unable) to understand the body language in soldier-and-the-husk scene of Synthesis ending.


Well the husk certainly doesn't seem to react as being human again, nor anything more than a animal that no longer wants to kill as it was directed to.

And that still doesn't show that "goo" can live again.

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mass perfection wrote...

Going by your logic,Control is the equivalent to enslaving thousands of races.


Which you can release by applying Synthesis later, after Control... Which will also help you to avoid unneeded deaths on the Citadel in the process of Synthesizing.

Modifié par Seival, 07 juin 2013 - 08:45 .