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Have you watched the Control ending? It's shaped by Shepherd's Paragon and Renegade rating. It's not my "headcanon" when I say it's shaped by Shep's morals. That's exactly what happens in the ending.


I'm not going to judge you if you do, but do you happen to take the endings at face value? What the catalyst says at face value? The Reaper goal at face value?

I'm just asking.

BTW I added a few links to my last post.

And lastly, it's SHEPARD. Not "Shepherd" or "Sheperd".

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 07 juin 2013 - 12:42 .


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masster blaster wrote...

Have you watched the Control ending? It's shaped by Shepherd's Paragon and Renegade rating. It's not my "headcanon" when I say it's shaped by Shep's morals. That's exactly what happens in the ending.



Ummmmm that's not Shepard anymore, but a copy....... it is using logic rather than morals....... if Shepard use his/her morals, he/she would send the Reapers to the sun.


I'm just saying it's embued with that side of Shep. That's how it's written. You get different endings and everything. I'm not going to sit here and ignore it. It's not my idea. I didn't write any of this.

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I prefer my personal head-canon: After the Catalyst explains that Synthetics and Organics will always kill each other...


The Normandy swoops in, depositing EDI, Tali, and a Geth representative next to Shepard. I then proceed to flip the starbrat off while that trio hacks into the Catalyst searching for a self-destruct code.

Shepard – "I have a message for Harbinger."
Catalyst – "Yes?"
Shepard – "This hurts you..."

Cue countdown to selective explosion that sends the Reapers to hell while the Victory fleet outruns the shock-wave of dying Reapers...

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StreetMagic wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Have you watched the Control ending? It's shaped by Shepherd's Paragon and Renegade rating. It's not my "headcanon" when I say it's shaped by Shep's morals. That's exactly what happens in the ending.



Ummmmm that's not Shepard anymore, but a copy....... it is using logic rather than morals....... if Shepard use his/her morals, he/she would send the Reapers to the sun.


I'm just saying it's embued with that side of Shep. That's how it's written. You get different endings and everything. I'm not going to sit here and ignore it. It's not my idea. I didn't write any of this.


I know, it's just the the main endings are just questionable. Destroy imo is the least complicated, and the better choice, but enough said.

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StreetMagic wrote...
Have you watched the Control ending? It's shaped by Shepherd's Paragon and Renegade rating. It's not my "headcanon" when I say it's shaped by Shep's morals. That's exactly what happens in the ending.


I'm not going to judge you if you do, but do you happen to take the endings at face value? What the catalyst says at face value? The Reaper goal at face value?

I'm just asking.

BTW I added a few links to my last post.

And lastly, it's SHEPARD. Not "Shepherd" or "Sheperd".


Uh, OK. You want to feel good about spell checking? You win. You kicked my ass there. Sorry. Boohoo.

Modifié par StreetMagic, 07 juin 2013 - 12:44 .


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StreetMagic wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Have you watched the Control ending? It's shaped by Shepherd's Paragon and Renegade rating. It's not my "headcanon" when I say it's shaped by Shep's morals. That's exactly what happens in the ending.



Ummmmm that's not Shepard anymore, but a copy....... it is using logic rather than morals....... if Shepard use his/her morals, he/she would send the Reapers to the sun.


I'm just saying it's embued with that side of Shep. That's how it's written. You get different endings and everything. I'm not going to sit here and ignore it. It's not my idea. I didn't write any of this.


Yes it is based on a Paragon and Renegade Shep, but it's still gonna use logic instead of emotions and both intends to use the Reapers

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I prefer my personal head-canon: After the Catalyst explains that Synthetics and Organics will always kill each other...


The Normandy swoops in, depositing EDI, Tali, and a Geth representative next to Shepard. I then proceed to flip the starbrat off while that trio hacks into the Catalyst searching for a self-destruct code.

Shepard – "I have a message for Harbinger."
Catalyst – "Yes?"
Shepard – "This hurts you..."

Cue countdown to selective explosion that sends the Reapers to hell while the Victory fleet outruns the shock-wave of dying Reapers...


I have the brat stand infront of the tube, and blast him. then I will get " SO BE IT!" and thus I killed the Reapers, and pissed it off.

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 If I were to play ME3 again, this time I probably would choose Control. Seriously, becoming a God is like Shepard's destiny. Now the galaxy will have someone capable to rule it, and if someone doesn't like it, they are free to try to overthrow him :devil:.

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 If I were to play ME3 again, this time I probably would choose Control. Seriously, becoming a God is like Shepard's destiny. Now the galaxy will have someone capable to rule it, and if someone doesn't like it, they are free to try to overthrow him :devil:.


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I didn't say it was a great choice. I don't go for Control myself. I just find it more palatable than Destroy. I have a utilitarian side, I guess. Nor do have as many qualms about being a dictator. I daydream of controlling things sometimes. It's tempting.

It's also the Illusive Man's downfall, so I don't choose it.

Modifié par StreetMagic, 07 juin 2013 - 12:47 .


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Double post, oops.

Modifié par WittingEight65, 07 juin 2013 - 12:49 .


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AresKeith wrote...

WittingEight65 wrote...

 If I were to play ME3 again, this time I probably would choose Control. Seriously, becoming a God is like Shepard's destiny. Now the galaxy will have someone capable to rule it, and if someone doesn't like it, they are free to try to overthrow him :devil:.


Challenge Accepted

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You are not funny, dude. Let me play God for a bit.

Modifié par WittingEight65, 07 juin 2013 - 12:52 .


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StreetMagic wrote...

I didn't say it was a great choice. I don't go for Control myself. I just find it more palatable than Destroy. I have a utilitarian side, I guess. Nor do have as many qualms about being a dictator. I daydream of controlling things sometimes. It's tempting.

It's also the Illusive Man's downfall, so I don't choose it.



Who was Indoctrianted, as were the splinter cell Protheans in Javiks cycle who wanted to Control the Reapers, only to be controlled by the Reapers instead....ya that's why I also don't pick Control.

Modifié par masster blaster, 07 juin 2013 - 12:50 .


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No, I mean how people cope with AI... and how AI respond to being relegated as tools. That's the problem. Not AI itself. Both need to evolve to see the others point of view. Carrying on as it is will just bring more war, I think. I think the Catalyst is right on that.


You don't need to force evolution on a permanent scale to solve this problem. It's not even a real singularity problem, it's just people not looking past differences. This can be achieved without synthesis.

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

No, I mean how people cope with AI... and how AI respond to being relegated as tools. That's the problem. Not AI itself. Both need to evolve to see the others point of view. Carrying on as it is will just bring more war, I think. I think the Catalyst is right on that.


You don't need to force evolution on a permanent scale to solve this problem. It's not even a real singularity problem, it's just people not looking past differences. This can be achieved without synthesis.


I agree compleatly.

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masster blaster wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

I didn't say it was a great choice. I don't go for Control myself. I just find it more palatable than Destroy. I have a utilitarian side, I guess. Nor do have as many qualms about being a dictator. I daydream of controlling things sometimes. It's tempting.

It's also the Illusive Man's downfall, so I don't choose it.



Who was Indoctrianted, as were the splinter cell Protheans in Javiks cycle who wanted to Control the Reapers, only to be controlled by the Reapers instead....ya that's why I also don't pick Control.


IMO, You are under reaper control the moment you see Starbrat.  I'm not referring to indoctrination, I'm referring to the "choose your poison" ending.  If you rebel against the Catalyst, you die.  You are being handled.

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IceHawk-181 wrote...

I prefer my personal head-canon: After the Catalyst explains that Synthetics and Organics will always kill each other...


The Normandy swoops in, depositing EDI, Tali, and a Geth representative next to Shepard. I then proceed to flip the starbrat off while that trio hacks into the Catalyst searching for a self-destruct code.

Shepard – "I have a message for Harbinger."
Catalyst – "Yes?"
Shepard – "This hurts you..."

Cue countdown to selective explosion that sends the Reapers to hell while the Victory fleet outruns the shock-wave of dying Reapers...


I think I love you.  :wub:

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Bah. Well, you guys are making me entertain the whole indoctrination theory stuff now. lol.

The only thing that makes me think Destroy is a good option is how much it costs to get out alive. It rewards players who put a lot of time in the game. Synthesis comes in a distant second.

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
Here are a few synthesis statements.



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Asharad Hett wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

I didn't say it was a great choice. I don't go for Control myself. I just find it more palatable than Destroy. I have a utilitarian side, I guess. Nor do have as many qualms about being a dictator. I daydream of controlling things sometimes. It's tempting.

It's also the Illusive Man's downfall, so I don't choose it.



Who was Indoctrianted, as were the splinter cell Protheans in Javiks cycle who wanted to Control the Reapers, only to be controlled by the Reapers instead....ya that's why I also don't pick Control.



IMO, You are under reaper control the moment you see Starbrat.  I'm not referring to indoctrination, I'm referring to the "choose your poison" ending.  If you rebel against the Catalyst, you die.  You are being handled.


Ya I got the impression to, but indoc way. but enough said. I have a feeling the catalyst is just pulling an f you on Shepard.

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Bah. Well, you guys are making me entertain the whole indoctrination theory stuff now. lol.

The only thing that makes me think Destroy is a good option is how much it costs to get out alive. It rewards players who put a lot of time in the game. Synthesis comes in a distant second.


Well, that's not the only reason, but why do you think Destroy happens to be the most popular choice among the harder fans? Synthesis is after Control btw.

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Bah. Well, you guys are making me entertain the whole indoctrination theory stuff now. lol.

The only thing that makes me think Destroy is a good option is how much it costs to get out alive. It rewards players who put a lot of time in the game. Synthesis comes in a distant second.


I'm an ITer you know who beleves in Indoc theory, so I take that as a complement.

Yet there are many reasons why many fans pick Destroy.

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Bah. Well, you guys are making me entertain the whole indoctrination theory stuff now. lol.

The only thing that makes me think Destroy is a good option is how much it costs to get out alive. It rewards players who put a lot of time in the game. Synthesis comes in a distant second.


Well, that's not the only reason, but why do you think Destroy happens to be the most popular choice among the harder fans? Synthesis is after Control btw.


I thought Synthesis needed the second highest War Asset requirements. Control can easily be achieved by saving the Collector base in ME2. You don't even need many war assets to do it.. although not doing so causes a ton of damage.

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StreetMagic wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Bah. Well, you guys are making me entertain the whole indoctrination theory stuff now. lol.

The only thing that makes me think Destroy is a good option is how much it costs to get out alive. It rewards players who put a lot of time in the game. Synthesis comes in a distant second.


Well, that's not the only reason, but why do you think Destroy happens to be the most popular choice among the harder fans? Synthesis is after Control btw.


I thought Synthesis needed the second highest War Asset requirements. Control can easily be achieved by saving the Collector base in ME2. You don't even need many war assets to do it.. although not doing so causes a ton of damage.


And what does that have to do with synthesis? If you want to get technical Destroy is the same way, and to unlock the best ending for Destroy, is that much high than synthesis.

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masster blaster wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Bah. Well, you guys are making me entertain the whole indoctrination theory stuff now. lol.

The only thing that makes me think Destroy is a good option is how much it costs to get out alive. It rewards players who put a lot of time in the game. Synthesis comes in a distant second.


I'm an ITer you know who beleves in Indoc theory, so I take that as a complement.

Yet there are many reasons why many fans pick Destroy.


IT is dead.