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[Tallgeese_VII]

I cannot comment until I exactly understands how Phasic 1,2,3 ammo work.

3 helps a lot for sure. How does 1 &2 help...

[megawug]

CrimsonN7 wrote...

prostheticlimbs wrote...

Yo, GAMEofDEATH, you're wrong. And stupid.

Subtle!

Prothean no like you!

[Doni]

GAMEofDEATH-PS3 wrote...

(Incorrect essay on the effects of Phasic Rounds)

Uh, I'm pretty sure the shield regen delay is the delay until enemy shields start regenerating (which gets reset every time they take damage).

It's not a magical timeframe to do higher than normal damage.

The main point of phasic rounds is to both do more damage per shot against shields and decrease the damage reduction caused by shield gate (the only practical use for this effect is using a hard hitting one shot weapon like the jav/widow to kill mooks in one shot.  Phasic rounds are practically wasted on a rapid fire weapon like the Hurricane).

Modifié par Scruffaluphagus, 08 juin 2013 - 08:26 .

[DHKany]

After Protoman's shennanery with Phasics I thought I'd seen it all.


Obviously not.

[oO Stryfe Oo]

IcarusAloft wrote...

http://cdn.memegener...0x/38516568.jpg

Or put the Javelin on its intended kit, the GI

Pretty much this.

I don't think I've ever used the gun on any other kit.

[Deerber]

FateNeverEnds wrote...

Deerber wrote...

If you're using phasics II on an infiltrator with a Javelin X you can OHK shielded mooks like centurions, marauders and the like. But damage in this game is inconsistent, especially with a javelin. It can definitely happen that you don't kill a marauder with a bodyshot, but most of times he will die as he should.

I can't quite remember, but I'm pretty sure the bodyshot left many marauders alive that game.

The point is, the damage of weapons in this game is somewhat inconsistent. Even more so for the javelin. And even more so against marauders. I've said this already in another thread: I've landed a clean headshot on a marauder that was not a target, did not just spawn, and I just PM'd, with a cloaked GI specced for full damage with a Javelin VII and phasic ammo III... And his shields didn't even break. It happens. It even happens multiple times in the same game. Keep in mind that there are also situation which make this "legit", like if the marauder just spawned or if he is a target.

But, if none of these conditions are met, and you're firing from cloak with any infiltrator, and you took evo 6 SR damage, and you're using phasics II and a Javelin X, math says that a bodyshot on a gold marauder is a OHK. That means that most of the times, that's what's going to happen 

megabeast37215 wrote...

The multiplicative Geth weapon bonus and the Hunter Mode damage bonus are why the GI is superior with the Javelin. Granted... this doesn't matter vs mooks, but it sure shows up against bosses.

Actually, it matters a lot against Phantoms too. A GI can OHK them with a bodyshot, a SI needs to land an ED first, which makes the shot much more difficult.

Personally, I don't want to sound argumentative, but I think that saying that the Javelin works better on a SI than on a GI means either that

a) you're very obsessed with the SI, and that leads to you saying these clearly wrong things even though you know, deep inside, that they're wrong,

or

you just have no clue what you're talking about.

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Who DOESN'T have a load of Phasic 3s sitting around?

I don't. I have less than 20, if I remember correctly 

[Aetika]

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Who DOESN'T have a load of Phasic 3s sitting around?

I have 16

[dudemacha]

Aetika wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Who DOESN'T have a load of Phasic 3s sitting around?

I have 16

Phasic Rounds I - 46

Phasic Rounds II - 31

Phasic Rounds III - 65
What to do?

[UnknownMercenary]

Paynez wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

OK. I reiterate.

SI > GI with the Javelin IF you spec your Energy Drain correctly (i.e pure Damage).

still lolno

i know right

[solidprice]

fate plz
javelin/snipe all the things w/ it.
but everyone is right, i do always have some Phasic laying around.....

Modifié par solidprice, 08 juin 2013 - 03:52 .

[Zjarcal]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Also SI > GI with the Javelin. SI needs the same number of shots (and hence kill just as fast) for the vast majority of enemies (think: which enemies need more than 8 Javelin shots to defeat?) while being far more versatile.

SMH. Do we even play the same game? That's flat out untrue.

Nobody plays the same game iOnlySignIn plays. 

GAMEofDEATH-PS3 wrote...

Well excuse me i wrote something that wasn't correct, my bad and thanks a bunch for putting me on blast...

Delete that abomination of a post already ffs. 

Modifié par Zjarcal, 08 juin 2013 - 04:40 .

[Oni Changas]

Phasic IS useless. Disruptor serves the same purpose AND it stuns on top of priming TB.

[Ledgend1221]

OniTYME wrote...

Phasic IS useless. Disruptor serves the same purpose AND it stuns on top of priming TB.

Lolno.

[ichyscrachy]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

FateNeverEnds wrote...
If I only had your aim-bots 

SI is the ultimate aimbot. Most underrated Infiltrator by far.

ED + Prox Mine + Cloak = GG.

Also SI > GI with the Javelin. SI needs the same number of shots (and hence kill just as fast) for the vast majority of enemies (think: which enemies need more than 8 Javelin shots to defeat?) while being far more versatile.

SMH. Do we even play the same game? That's flat out untrue.

It's absolutely true.
On bronze.

[The-Fantasm]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

LMAO why are you body-shotting the Marauder with the SI.

You are SI, ffs. You get headshots FOR FREE.

Also, don't listen to them. SI > GI with the Javelin. SI needs the same number of shots (and hence kill just as fast) for the vast majority of enemies (think: which enemies need more than 8 Javelin shots to defeat?) while being far more versatile.

Airlock.You.Now. SI is not better than the GI with a Javelin, and you should feel bad for thinking that.

[Aetika]

Nik6454 wrote...

Aetika wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Who DOESN'T have a load of Phasic 3s sitting around?

I have 16

Phasic Rounds I - 46

Phasic Rounds II - 31

Phasic Rounds III - 65
What to do?

Oh well, it´s obvious you modded your game to have more Phasic rounds....

[iOnlySignIn]

The-Fantasm wrote...

Airlock.You.Now. SI is not better than the GI with a Javelin, and you should feel bad for thinking that.

Haha I feel great thinking that. Because I haven't mentioned the real reason SI is better with the Javelin in this thread yet and none of you could figure it out.

Also I know all about airlocks so please, reserve that insult for somebody else.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 08 juin 2013 - 05:22 .

[iOnlySignIn]

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

iOnlySignIn

1) SI is not underrated. I've never heard of anyone underestimate the SI.
2) On Gold, yes they do indeed need the same number of shots for every mook, if your using Phasic Rounds on both, you need one bullet. HOWEVER you can not possibly reason that Hunter Mode + Geth Passives is worse than Energy Drain + Slightly more combined health and shields.

1) You and every other poster who responded to me in this thread underestimate the SI.

2) You should not use Phasic Rounds on the Javelin, which is what this thread is about. But I'd rather not explain everything because your continued ignorance entertains me.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 08 juin 2013 - 05:26 .

[dudemacha]

Aetika wrote...

Nik6454 wrote...

Aetika wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Who DOESN'T have a load of Phasic 3s sitting around?

I have 16

Phasic Rounds I - 46

Phasic Rounds II - 31

Phasic Rounds III - 65
What to do?

Oh well, it´s obvious you modded your game to have more Phasic rounds....

:crying:But ..bu..but..all of my other ammo except inc,warp,AP ammo are in high reserves....

[SoundWraith]

Depends on the subjective, objective or pragmatic aspect on the matter at hand..

Instant stagger helps guarantee a shot from the Jav but HM's ROF evo does shine better with the BW than on the Jav, faster shots > a few frames lesser just for reload cancelling.

Personally I would attest to the inconsistent damage values of the Javelin to blame.

[Oni Changas]

SI is just as good a sniper as GI. SI doesn't need phasic with ED.

[TwinWolf954]

Hmm... I wonder how well Phasic IIIs would work out on the Krysae...

[Deerber]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Also I know all about airlocks so please, reserve that insult for somebody else.

Nice read. I did not know a human could survive vacuum exposure. Very interesting.