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[Steelcan]

I'm talking about a Reaper destroying a live ship. One of those goes and millions will starve.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Dunabar wrote...

Miranda: I'm perfect
Shepard: I don't think your dad paid your dentist enough though.
Miranda: Why do you say that?
Shepard: Those buckteeth is why!

I don't believe Miranda has buck teeth. Large teeth maybe, but that's not a flaw unless you think of it as one. I don't see any problem there.

Nice job trying to use Miranda against me though.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Steelcan wrote...

I'm talking about a Reaper destroying a live ship. One of those goes and millions will starve.

In that case, retaking Rannoch and the Geth will be the least of their problems.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Dextro Milk wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Probably. We have a great number of them.

A population though in the multi-billions is likely to have more variance though than 17 million Quarians.

Funny, I think you are a more a blight to the human race than any quarian I met through all three games.

Why, becaused I insulted your waifu? 

*edit* I see what you did there. I'm human, and the Quarians are Quarian. Haha, got me.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 09 juin 2013 - 07:03 .

[AresKeith]

tickle267 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
One Reaper against 50,000 ships. Awesome odds for the Reaper. 
*snip*

in fairness most quarian ships a pretty useless in combat as we saw in ME3, and also you only need to destroy the liveships to kill off the quarians, which a single reaper could easily do.

Well the Reapers in ME3 aren't really smart

[Steelcan]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'm talking about a Reaper destroying a live ship. One of those goes and millions will starve.

In that case, retaking Rannoch and the Geth will be the least of their problems.

.  Which is why they need Rannoch bdfore that happens.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

tickle267 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
One Reaper against 50,000 ships. Awesome odds for the Reaper. 
*snip*

in fairness most quarian ships a pretty useless in combat as we saw in ME3, and also you only need to destroy the liveships to kill off the quarians, which a single reaper could easily do.

I think 50,000 ships firing their combined weaponry against one Reaper though is overkill. 

As useless as they are, that many ships in such numbers, focused on one target would probably be pretty devastating.

But you're right, the live ships are absolutely vital.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Steelcan wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'm talking about a Reaper destroying a live ship. One of those goes and millions will starve.

In that case, retaking Rannoch and the Geth will be the least of their problems.

.  Which is why they need Rannoch bdfore that happens.

Yes. But it's also a random event. You never know when you're going to be flying along only to have a cloud of Reapers pop out and shoot at you. Or just one. 

That said, wouldn't it be better to send me as an envoy to the Geth and get me to clear things up with them rather than send the liveships into battle against the Geth where they make likely get destroyed?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

tickle267 wrote...

Dextro Milk wrote...

tickle267 wrote...

Dextro Milk wrote...

Funny, I think you are a more a blight to the human race than any quarian I met through all three games.

that's not very nice.

Neither is this:
MassivelyEffective0730 wrote... "Sometimes, the absolute psychopath in me even wish Shepard would smash Tali's mask in and watch her die a slow, painful death as she succumbs to infection."

hmm, i see.
actually i recall reading a fanfic where shepard leaves tali for dead on freedoms progress. perhaps you'd like that massivelyeffective?

Eh, depends on the reason I'm doing it.

[Steelcan]

As I recall the geth do not care for any ship regardless of origin or purpose near their territory. The Normandy may be able to reach Rannoch but they'd probably kill you after you exited the ship. Meanwhile the Reapers are still there pressing on the fleet.

And the quarians through Tali were talking to the geth through Legion until Legion stopped responding.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Steelcan wrote...

Here is a break down for the quarians situation.

The Reapers have invaded and can destroy there entire species with little difficulty. They need a world to offload civilians so their navy can help the war effort. Rannoch is the only viable choice. Before attacking blindly they go into talks, Tali and Legion discuss the possibility of peace. Legion abruptly cuts it off. The Reaper threat is getting worse. Xen develops a weapon that would ensure quarian victory over the geth. The geth still have not relayed any desire for peace talks. Someone want to point out where the quarians messed up? So far it all seems pretty reasonable to me.

When was it said that Legion abruptly cuts off? I recall Tali saying that it's been sometime since she's been in any contact with Legion.

That does not mean Legion "abruptly cut off from communications". It's never elaborated upon, and thus it can be for any number of reasons.

[Dunabar]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Dunabar wrote...

Miranda: I'm perfect
Shepard: I don't think your dad paid your dentist enough though.
Miranda: Why do you say that?
Shepard: Those buckteeth is why!

I don't believe Miranda has buck teeth. Large teeth maybe, but that's not a flaw unless you think of it as one. I don't see any problem there.

Nice job trying to use Miranda against me though.

I did it more for humor than anything. If you like to possibly consider it a attack however, we can go there, but I promise you will only make yourself look bad.

[AresKeith]

Steelcan wrote...

As I recall the geth do not care for any ship regardless of origin or purpose near their territory. The Normandy may be able to reach Rannoch but they'd probably kill you after you exited the ship. Meanwhile the Reapers are still there pressing on the fleet.

And the quarians through Tali were talking to the geth through Legion until Legion stopped responding.

Were we even able to ask Legion why?

[Steelcan]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Here is a break down for the quarians situation.

The Reapers have invaded and can destroy there entire species with little difficulty. They need a world to offload civilians so their navy can help the war effort. Rannoch is the only viable choice. Before attacking blindly they go into talks, Tali and Legion discuss the possibility of peace. Legion abruptly cuts it off. The Reaper threat is getting worse. Xen develops a weapon that would ensure quarian victory over the geth. The geth still have not relayed any desire for peace talks. Someone want to point out where the quarians messed up? So far it all seems pretty reasonable to me.

When was it said that Legion abruptly cuts off? I recall Tali saying that it's been sometime since she's been in any contact with Legion.

That does not mean Legion "abruptly cut off from communications". It's never elaborated upon, and thus it can be for any number of reasons.

.  They were in the middle of peace talks when one side stopped answering, Id call that abrupt.

[Steelcan]

AresKeith wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

As I recall the geth do not care for any ship regardless of origin or purpose near their territory. The Normandy may be able to reach Rannoch but they'd probably kill you after you exited the ship. Meanwhile the Reapers are still there pressing on the fleet.

And the quarians through Tali were talking to the geth through Legion until Legion stopped responding.

Were we even able to ask Legion why?

.  No, anx he does not feel compelled to elaborate.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Steelcan wrote...

As I recall the geth do not care for any ship regardless of origin or purpose near their territory. The Normandy may be able to reach Rannoch but they'd probably kill you after you exited the ship. Meanwhile the Reapers are still there pressing on the fleet.

And the quarians through Tali were talking to the geth through Legion until Legion stopped responding.

Why would the Geth kill me? Did Legion forget who I was or something? Wouldn't he have uploaded his experiences into the consensus? Don't Geth share everything with each other? Don't the Geth have a huge interest in Shepard regardless? If Legion had uploaded his experiences into the consensus (like he probably would have done when he contacts them), don't you think the other Geth would immediately know who Shepard is and what he's doing based on Legion's experience? Are you making up the Reapers pressing on the Quarian fleet? Because I totally think that's bull**** headcanon right there.

And as far as I know, isn't Tali communicating independently with Legion? As in the Quarians probably don't know that she's doing it? Wouldn't that constitute treason? Aren't you jumping to conclusions by saying that since it's been a while since Tali and Legion have communicated, it must obviously mean that Legion intentionally broke off communication? Did you account for any and all other possibilities?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Steelcan wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

As I recall the geth do not care for any ship regardless of origin or purpose near their territory. The Normandy may be able to reach Rannoch but they'd probably kill you after you exited the ship. Meanwhile the Reapers are still there pressing on the fleet.

And the quarians through Tali were talking to the geth through Legion until Legion stopped responding.

Were we even able to ask Legion why?

.  No, anx he does not feel compelled to elaborate.

Probably because Tali is the one telling you that it's been a while since they last communicated. No elaboration is given from her as to why communication stopped. 

Maybe they had a bad connection. Maybe Tali's wireless bill was higher than expected. Maybe Legion accessed a porn site or got a case of robot cholesteatoma. 

[Steelcan]

The Reapers are pressing on all fronts rapidly first of all, that is not head canon.

Secondly, Legion =\\= rest of the geth. Legion is conflicted on certain issues it stands to reason the geth might be conflicted on the issue of peace with the quarians.

Koris knew about the talks between Legion and Tali so it seems reasonable the other admirals did as well. Also see Tali's dialogue on the Geth Dreadnought.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Dunabar wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Dunabar wrote...

Miranda: I'm perfect
Shepard: I don't think your dad paid your dentist enough though.
Miranda: Why do you say that?
Shepard: Those buckteeth is why!

I don't believe Miranda has buck teeth. Large teeth maybe, but that's not a flaw unless you think of it as one. I don't see any problem there.

Nice job trying to use Miranda against me though.

I did it more for humor than anything. If you like to possibly consider it a attack however, we can go there, but I promise you will only make yourself look bad.

Sorry about that. I read the other guys post and realized you were in reference to him and not me.

That said, I don't think I'll do such a bad job defending myself against an attack. It seems pretty arrogant to size up an opponent without knowing his mettle.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Steelcan wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

As I recall the geth do not care for any ship regardless of origin or purpose near their territory. The Normandy may be able to reach Rannoch but they'd probably kill you after you exited the ship. Meanwhile the Reapers are still there pressing on the fleet.

And the quarians through Tali were talking to the geth through Legion until Legion stopped responding.

Were we even able to ask Legion why?

.  No, anx he does not feel compelled to elaborate.

I doubt I'll play it again to find out for myself, but that seems to contradict my play-through. Tali and the Admirals' explanation of the attack does not list Legion as a reason for it. It was decided on the basis of Xen's weapon, not on the breakdown of peace talks. Legion was not related to the decision, and Tali freely admits she was still in contact with him, and could have warned him of the attack, but chose not to. Legion is not captured until after the Reapers arrive.

Perhaps you never brought Legion to the Quarian fleet in ME 2? That would probably make a difference.

[Steelcan]

Break down of peace talks would not have been conducive to a peaceful end to geth/quarian conflicts.

And Legion does not go to the Migrant fleet in any play through, and in my canon he goes to Cronos

Modifié par Steelcan, 09 juin 2013 - 07:23 .