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[AndarianTD]

Does anyone know where I can find a simple cave entrance placeable? I'm having a devil of a time trying to find one. I'm thinking of something simple, like a standard cave exit you'd find in an underground tileset. Thanks!

[Zwerkules]

If The George converted all NWN2 placeables there should be two cave entrances and two mine entrances in one of his placeable packs and/or the CEP.
The textures will not match the Bioware tilesets at all though.

[AndarianTD]

Zwerkules wrote...

If The George converted all NWN2 placeables there should be two cave entrances and two mine entrances in one of his placeable packs and/or the CEP. The textures will not match the Bioware tilesets at all though.

Thanks! That should help. I went back to thegeorge's haks and it looks like he had two: one in the rural pack, and one in the doors pack. From the screenshots it looks like I can use them, and I'll get started on pulling them out now.

It doesn't look like either ever made it into the CEP, though. I've been through the placeables in CEP 2.4 and found only one cave entrance by JDA, which isn't really suitable for the environment I want to use it in. There are a number of fissure models, but they're all too narrow to be a proper cave entrance. There are lots of NWN2 placeables, but I didn't find any cave entrances.

Modifié par AndarianTD, 08 juin 2013 - 11:22 .

[AndarianTD]

Follow-up: My mistake on the rural set. The screenshot was a cave entrance with icicles. It was the icicles it was showcasing; the cave entrance appeared to be from a tileset. The ones in the doors set are there and pretty much what I was looking for, but interestingly enough they don't appear to be in the palette; I had to create blueprints for them. There's a cave and a cave entrance, which when used together are pretty effective and look like this:

Modifié par AndarianTD, 08 juin 2013 - 11:20 .

[AndarianTD]

I'd like to ask another query related to the reason why I asked my initial question, in the hope that someone might have some good advice for me. What I'm really trying to do is to create an underground cave that's nearly filled with water, that the player and his party have to wade or swim into for an encounter. The only thing stopping me from using the underdark tileset (NWNCQ version) is the "layer-cake" structure of the raised tileset. I have double-sided water, so all I really need to make it work is an underground tileset with a "raise/lower" feature. However, the effect I want -- which involves a creature rising out of the water by climbing the raised terrain toward the party -- is getting ruined because it keeps getting stuck at the ridges and ramps.

What I really want is a good cavern tileset with gradual and walkable ramps, like TNO or Seasonal Forest. Does anyone know of such a tileset that I could try?

Thanks in advance for any help -- Andarian

[Zwerkules]

If it is enough for you if raise/lower works for tunnels, you should have a look at Baba Yaga's spider caves. It seems as if he planned to make the raise/lower feature to also work for the cave terrain, but unless there is a never version than the one I found, it isn't finished.
Those caves would work very well as flooded caves.

Modifié par Zwerkules, 13 juin 2013 - 03:16 .

[kalbaern]

Zwerkules wrote...

If it is enough for you if raise/lower works for tunnels, you should have a look at Baba Yaga's spider caves. It seems as if he planned to make the raise/lower feature to also work for the cave terrain, but unless there is a never version than the one I found, it isn't finished.
Those caves would work very well as flooded caves.

I love these myself and use them on my own PW, but they likely wouldn't work any better. Only the tunnels work when making sloped terrains. The way "tunnels" connect to the "great cave" also creates an outcrop of stone that causes creatures to frequently get hung up as well. I use this tileset alot myself, but I also have to take care and make sure that encounters are in tunnels or caverns and avoid the transitions between the two.

[NWN_baba yaga]

the only option you have with my tileset is to use create a cave with 4 crossing tunnels...so you have a large cave created out of tunnels with always 4 pillars on one cave section. That was the option i had once i figured out it was to difficult for me back then to create a really good working raise/ lower feature in an acceptable timeframe w/o banging my head to death why the eff something´s not as it should.

so the straigth crosser was planed as a cave creation tool as well

That here took me not a minute and I just used the tunnel for it and it looks like a cave to me.. now imagine with just darkness

Modifié par NWN_baba yaga, 13 juin 2013 - 07:56 .

[AlgernonsGhost]

Not to further hijack this thread, but I couldn't find a thread dedicated to just the Spider Caves, though I'm pretty sure there is one. If so, could someone point the way, please?

It's an absolutely gorgeous tileset with amazing textures. Is there any chance in the nine hells it will be expanded someday, Baba Yaga? Please? I'd love to see tunnels that can connect to the sides of caves at the corners, and the ability to make diagonal connections with great cave squares. Maybe some water features, and a little additional variety on decorations like glowing fungus, and different mushrooms?

I know I'm probably asking a lot, but it really is an incredible tileset! Wow.

[NWN_baba yaga]

Thank you

... but to be realistic the tileset is very old already and my style or how i do things have changed/ evolved over the years and now it´s almost impossible for me to get back to my older work and just create new stuff for them. I couldnt resist to rework things all over again and thats why i better stay off the caves. The glittering caves i havent released yet is more likely to have updates... I just need to polish it here and there and create a complete new 2da/ itp for it.

So sorry but i think I´m 99,9 % done with the spider caves.

...well a side entry for the giant caves is something i can do;)

Modifié par NWN_baba yaga, 02 juillet 2013 - 08:38 .

[AlgernonsGhost]

Thanks for the reply, Baba Yaga. I still think it's a great set worthy of expansion. That corner side entry would be superb.

Do you have some pictures of your glittering caves you could show us in a new thread, or have you already somewhere?