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[-PenguinFetish-]

Its just rude. Send a message before joining. Doing this too much will get you removed of my FL. Ive had loads of solos ruined by session joiners.

[Fortack]

Usually I'm with the shoot-first-ask-questions-later crowd, but not on this one.

[PsychoticBiotic]

I don't join unless I'm invited.

[Cirvante]

Deerber wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

Deerber wrote...

I don't know about console Jeremiah, but friends can join each other's private games on pc. That's why most people go invisible when they're soloing.

ON Console, "Private" prevents anyone from joining the game, and "Friends Only" allows friends to join.

On PC, "Invisible" prevents anyone from joining the game, and "Private" allows friends to join.

Given specific circumstances, I would message someone first, if I was aware that they tended to attempt solos and forget  to go with the proper settings.

But ultimately, I'd still take responsibility for managing my own settings correctly. I would not hold they desire of a friend to play with me against them, if the issue was my own mistake.

It's my honest answer.

Personally, it's not the fact that it intereferes with solos that bugs me. I always go invisible when I'm soloing, so not a problem there. It's first, the principle. It's nice to ask if you can crash into a man's game, in my opinion. Second, there are situations in which it can be annoying that do not include soloing. Given that it's not possible to discern if the "join game" button will put you in a game in progress or in a lobby, you might end up in a private lobby that is waiting for someone to come because he was invited to. And you would put those people in the unpleseant situation of having to choose between the invited guy and you. Stuff like that happen.

So all in all, I find it pretty unpolite. I also know (we all do, actually) people who would unfriend over that, lol. I wouldn't go as far, but someone who did that repedeatly in the past got on my block list for a while.

I once ninja-joined Bacon's lobby while they were waiting for someone else. They asked me to leave and I left. No harm done. If someone tells me he has a huge problem with that, I won't ninja-join that person's games without asking first.

@PenguinFetish Go invisible before a solo attempt. Works like a charm.

Modifié par Cirvante, 08 juin 2013 - 08:02 .

[Grinch57]

Learned something new today. Never thought about opening up a chat with all the folks on my FL, to join them if an opportunity came about. Didn't realize you could "ninja" join a private match and screw up a solo.

Generally, I don't think anyone on my FL would be upset about me joining a match in progress, but I won't be doing it, because I don't want to screw up a solo effort.

As far as the idea, that gee, just get over it ... think about DaveT, say he is 81 minutes into his second Gold solo, which he has set to private and you pop in just as the extraction wave starts ... thank you very little.

Nah, I'll just stick to inviting folks to join my matches, accepting their invites or pinging them to see if they want to play or need a hand, I think it's better that way.

Jeremiah's point is a good one, if you want to make sure no one joins your solo run, set it to invisible, but I'm not going to ask the folks on my FL to do that extra step for my sake and just so I can pop into a match on a whim.

[Creator Limbs]

Someone ninja joined my lobby using an old invite once. I deleted them.

[Daxamite]

well i still remember that rant thread (was it stardusk?) who went ON and ON about how someone dropped into his solo match and ruined it. So I have NEVER used the join game option, even though on xbox its relatively easy to set it to private

[Cirvante]

Grinch57 wrote...

Learned something new today. Never thought about opening up a chat with all the folks on my FL, to join them if an opportunity came about. Didn't realize you could "ninja" join a private match and screw up a solo.

Generally, I don't think anyone on my FL would be upset about me joining a match in progress, but I won't be doing it, because I don't want to screw up a solo effort.

As far as the idea, that gee, just get over it ... think about DaveT, say he is 81 minutes into his second Gold solo, which he has set to private and you pop in just as the extraction wave starts ... thank you very little.

Nah, I'll just stick to inviting folks to join my matches, accepting their invites or pinging them to see if they want to play or need a hand, I think it's better that way.

Jeremiah's point is a good one, if you want to make sure no one joins your solo run, set it to invisible, but I'm not going to ask the folks on my FL to do that extra step for my sake and just so I can pop into a match on a whim.

Perhaps this is a subtle attempt of mine to educate BSNers to go invisible before solos, so I can continue to ninja-join their games without the fear of ruining anything. :innocent:

[acicm2]

Cirvante wrote...

Grinch57 wrote...

Learned something new today. Never thought about opening up a chat with all the folks on my FL, to join them if an opportunity came about. Didn't realize you could "ninja" join a private match and screw up a solo.

Generally, I don't think anyone on my FL would be upset about me joining a match in progress, but I won't be doing it, because I don't want to screw up a solo effort.

As far as the idea, that gee, just get over it ... think about DaveT, say he is 81 minutes into his second Gold solo, which he has set to private and you pop in just as the extraction wave starts ... thank you very little.

Nah, I'll just stick to inviting folks to join my matches, accepting their invites or pinging them to see if they want to play or need a hand, I think it's better that way.

Jeremiah's point is a good one, if you want to make sure no one joins your solo run, set it to invisible, but I'm not going to ask the folks on my FL to do that extra step for my sake and just so I can pop into a match on a whim.

Perhaps this is a subtle attempt of mine to educate BSNers to go invisible before solos, so I can continue to ninja-join their games without the fear of ruining anything. :innocent:

or just dont ninja join at all.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Deerber wrote...

Personally, it's not the fact that it intereferes with solos that bugs me. I always go invisible when I'm soloing, so not a problem there. It's first, the principle. It's nice to ask if you can crash into a man's game, in my opinion. Second, there are situations in which it can be annoying that do not include soloing. Given that it's not possible to discern if the "join game" button will put you in a game in progress or in a lobby, you might end up in a private lobby that is waiting for someone to come because he was invited to. And you would put those people in the unpleseant situation of having to choose between the invited guy and you. Stuff like that happen.

So all in all, I find it pretty unpolite. I also know (we all do, actually) people who would unfriend over that, lol. I wouldn't go as far, but someone who did that repedeatly in the past got on my block list for a while.

I find the way that works surprising, mostly because it seems Origin's interface is poorly designed, and should get an overhaul to fix the settings so that they work properly.

On console, none of that is really an issue, as only the "Friends Only" option would allow you to do that. If it is set to "Private," no one can join the game, regardless of whether they are in your friends list. In any case, I've only ever joined friends' games in progress a couple of times. It's never been an issue, because they had the lobby set to "public" or "friends only."

On Console, if your game is set to "Friends Only" or "Public" you can be joined by "Quick Match," meaning that anyone could end up in your game without even meaning to. There's no way to differentiate the settings so that someone could only enter the game by "ninja-joining."

That's why I answered the way I did: In console, it truly isn't possible for someone to get into your game unless you fail to use the proper settings, and if you do, there's no way to prevent someone from getting in by any of the normal methods, including "quick match."

[Cirvante]

acicm2 wrote...

or just dont ninja join at all.

But where's the fun in that? :ph34r:

[acicm2]

LineHolder wrote...

That's a pretty cool feature the PS3 doesn't have.

well the PS3 is below that of a tuna sandwich.

[iBRomano]

Cirvante wrote...

Grinch57 wrote...

Learned something new today. Never thought about opening up a chat with all the folks on my FL, to join them if an opportunity came about. Didn't realize you could "ninja" join a private match and screw up a solo.

Generally, I don't think anyone on my FL would be upset about me joining a match in progress, but I won't be doing it, because I don't want to screw up a solo effort.

As far as the idea, that gee, just get over it ... think about DaveT, say he is 81 minutes into his second Gold solo, which he has set to private and you pop in just as the extraction wave starts ... thank you very little.

Nah, I'll just stick to inviting folks to join my matches, accepting their invites or pinging them to see if they want to play or need a hand, I think it's better that way.

Jeremiah's point is a good one, if you want to make sure no one joins your solo run, set it to invisible, but I'm not going to ask the folks on my FL to do that extra step for my sake and just so I can pop into a match on a whim.

Perhaps this is a subtle attempt of mine to educate BSNers to go invisible before solos, so I can continue to ninja-join their games without the fear of ruining anything. :innocent:

Or you could be a little more considerate and ask before joining. A little courtesy goes a long way.

[Aetika]

Deerber wrote...


I find it pretty unpolite to be honest. I never do that.

this

[StoxRegalia]

Nah. I always ask before I join. If they wanted to play with me they would have invited me or accepted my invite.

[DrFace007]

I accidentally joined air quotes game in progress one time. I think he was offended bcuz he kicked me out of the lobby after the match. :'(

[StoxRegalia]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Personally, it's not the fact that it intereferes with solos that bugs me. I always go invisible when I'm soloing, so not a problem there. It's first, the principle. It's nice to ask if you can crash into a man's game, in my opinion. Second, there are situations in which it can be annoying that do not include soloing. Given that it's not possible to discern if the "join game" button will put you in a game in progress or in a lobby, you might end up in a private lobby that is waiting for someone to come because he was invited to. And you would put those people in the unpleseant situation of having to choose between the invited guy and you. Stuff like that happen.

So all in all, I find it pretty unpolite. I also know (we all do, actually) people who would unfriend over that, lol. I wouldn't go as far, but someone who did that repedeatly in the past got on my block list for a while.

I find the way that works surprising, mostly because it seems Origin's interface is poorly designed, and should get an overhaul to fix the settings so that they work properly.

On console, none of that is really an issue, as only the "Friends Only" option would allow you to do that. If it is set to "Private," no one can join the game, regardless of whether they are in your friends list. In any case, I've only ever joined friends' games in progress a couple of times. It's never been an issue, because they had the lobby set to "public" or "friends only."

On Console, if your game is set to "Friends Only" or "Public" you can be joined by "Quick Match," meaning that anyone could end up in your game without even meaning to. There's no way to differentiate the settings so that someone could only enter the game by "ninja-joining."

That's why I answered the way I did: In console, it truly isn't possible for someone to get into your game unless you fail to use the proper settings, and if you do, there's no way to prevent someone from getting in by any of the normal methods, including "quick match."

You can still ninja join if you are in a xbl party with them.  Thats about it though besides some sort of glitch.

[MzAdventure]

Notorious P I G wrote...

Nah. I always ask before I join. If they wanted to play with me they would have invited me or accepted my invite.

This.  Plus, I don't party crash either... too shy. 

[Shinobu]

Cirvante wrote...

I have a guilty addiction.

Before I go into a PuG, I'll open chat windows to all people on my FL who are currently playing, and when I see an orange button I'll jump right in. I have jumped into a few ongoing games where the team was just one player short and helped them extract. Yesterday I ninja-joined AirQuotes' lobby and ended up playing two platinum games with him (I also filled up his origin FL).

Sometimes it happens, though, that somebody is soloing without going invisible first and you end up ruining it. I kinda f*cked up Stysiac's solo this morning. I also dropped into Dunvi's epic bronze solo and molested the lone Nemesis in front of her eyes. I once had MasterPeras ninja-join one of my gold solos and we ended up duoing. Since then I always go invisible before soloing.

One time I ninja-joined Shinobu's game and caught her playing a Reegar-wielding Juggernaut with equipment on silver and she actually went down once. Have you ever found out shameful little secrets about your friends by ninja-joining their games?

And what's your opinion about it in general?

Ha ha! I felt like I'd been caught en flagrante! I died more than once, thanks for trying to be nice. BTW, you died several times during that silver match, so I thought you'd be too ashamed to bring it up. I play bronze too! With equipment!

Actually, I'm not a fan of the ninja join. Often I'm in lobby inviting specific people -- and if someone else on my FL takes the spot I've just promised to a friend it puts me in an awkward position, because I hate to ask people to leave. I won't ninja join a game any more than I'd enter someone's house without knocking.

Modifié par Shinobu, 08 juin 2013 - 09:00 .

[acicm2]

victoriakm wrote...

Notorious P I G wrote...

Nah. I always ask before I join. If they wanted to play with me they would have invited me or accepted my invite.

This.  Plus, I don't party crash either... too shy. 

lol

[Ziegrif]

If you don't ask me before jumping in.
I will make every single goddamn effort to kill you.
Expect me kiting bosses and throwing abominations at you.
One of the reasons I'm invisible 90% of the time nowadays.

[MPApr2012]

Adding people onto FL, in my view, does grant them privileges like ability to join games one advertises as open. No need for further messages. In fact that's the first thing I tell people when I add them to the list. For me to try and to answer someone's polite message in the middle of a match would result in KO of the character at the very least, which will ****** me off much more than reliable teammate joining, poised for a good game. Sending out invites is also too slow for me, enough time wasted in the lobby, if things are slow I might just start alone and grind through until someone joins along the way.

If I don't want people to join, i.e running solo, duo, or lower difficulty PUG, I go invisible. Simple as that...

As for joining myself - when I just started multiplayer I did ask experienced players what's the etiquette rules around and have been told it's better to ask. Since I'm lazy and also don't want to ruin someone's game messaging them I just do not join other people games. Arrange for a game in chat before starting a match, fine, but once in a match concentrate on match.

My 2 cents...

[Deathsaurer]

Ziegrif wrote...

If you don't ask me before jumping in.
I will make every single goddamn effort to kill you.
Expect me kiting bosses and throwing abominations at you.
One of the reasons I'm invisible 90% of the time nowadays.

I... actually want to try this.

[Ziegrif]

Deathsaurer wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

If you don't ask me before jumping in.
I will make every single goddamn effort to kill you.
Expect me kiting bosses and throwing abominations at you.
One of the reasons I'm invisible 90% of the time nowadays.

I... actually want to try this.

Only applies to solos. Pugs are ok because 9/10 times I won't recognize you unless we talk a lot with each other.

Friend games you may get kicked the next time we hit a lobby depends who it was, if the last player still wants in I'll bow out and give a spot.

Solos. I will kill you.