vpacheco1984 wrote...
DPSSOC wrote...
True, but the two Circles that were disasters were disasters because of Mages (Uldred and Anders), and from what I understand (haven't read Asunder) the conflict kicked off ultimately because of the actions of mages (Fiona and Adrian specifically). Yes there were a lot of things leading up to the conflict but the final straw was placed by the mages. In Jenga the loser is the guy who makes the tower fall not everyone else who built it up.
Fereldend was a disaster becasue of Uldred but also Logain. If it wasn't for the promise that the circle would be freed if Uldred added Logain he may not have rebelled.
Possible but unlikely. Uldred had been building up allies and training blood mages for years, he wasn't just going to sit on that.
vpacheco1984 wrote...
As for Kirkwall it was a disaster long before Anders even set foot in the city and that was becasue of the templars and how harshly they controlled the mage. Remember Samson or Simon or whatever his name was, he had been kicked out of the order for dilvering a love letter to a mundane from a mage(I think the lover was mundane). Meredith was destorying the circle by the third act she had even called for the ROA from the Divine for blood mages that weren't there. Almost all of the blood mage were on the outside of the circle not inside, Orsino doesn't count he hadn't been a blood mage until he lost his mind. See Uldred he had only studied blood magic before the rebellion in the tower. But Anders didn't help the situation but he had also hit a wall in trying to getting things changed the peaceful way.
Yes things were bad in Kirkwall, abhorrently so, but it wasn't a disaster yet. Here's the thing to remember about Kirkwall is that Meredith wasn't being harsh just because she wanted to be harsh, she was harsh because the situation in Kirkwall warranted it. The Mage Underground, Mages like Tarohne and Decimus, etc. even if they were outside the Circle justified her position. Now did her being harsh make things worse? Probably, but it's hard to argue definitively, in world, which caused what. Was Meredith harsher because the mages were pushing harder or were the mages pushing harder because Meredith was being harsher, it's all very chicken and egg.
Now the one person who was keeping it from becoming a disaster was Elthina, she was keeping Meredith from just slaughtering the Mages. Anders had hit a wall with getting peaceful results but again that's because Meredith or anyone who supported her could always just point to the mage criminals plaguing the city. It's hard to argue that Mages should be given greater freedom when the vast majority of Mages who get any start killing people. So rather than take steps to show Mages can be trusted to police their own, or demonstrate that not every free Mage is going to use their freedom to hurt people by bringing more into his clinic, Anders decided to kill Elthina, shatter the dam, and drown Kirkwall in blood.
vpacheco1984 wrote...
Remember that the templars and seekers strong armed the Divine into closing the Collage of Magi, taking away their voice, taking away their on illiuson that they were more then just slaves. Then Lumbert once again strong armed the Divine into making the mage who had been made untranquil tranquil again. He was so terrifed of being made tranquil again he would rather die the go back. Once again showing the mages that they were nothing giving them another reason to fight.
As for Asunder that was mostly Lumbert. There was the whole wanting to destroy something that could help mages. As for the vote if he had actually tried investigating instead of just jumping at the chance to execute Rhys like had been wanting to since Rhys stood up to him in his office. He was already convinced that he was the one killing the apprentices, when in reality it was Cole, though they should have been looking at the mages but the templars becuase they are the only ones who could have gotten to the victims.
It was also Lumbert who broke into the meeting and started butchering the First -Enchanters and Senior Enchanters when he was who tipped the balance of the vote in the first place, arresting Rhys without even trying to investigate, if he had tired investigating instead of sentiecing Rhys to death right away the vote would have been a resounding no just like it was the first time. But becasue of his actions the vote was yes and the war was started when he attacked. He could have tried talking with the enchanter but he didn't he tried killing them. Remember after the mages escaped the took a vote what to do again, either to turn themselves in or fight for their lives.
As for Adrian yeah she was on stupid little woman who made a bad situation worse.
As I said I've not read the book, so can't really comment, just going off of what I've heard.
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Also I want to apologize about my rude response. I also shouldn't have made any comment on the Witch Hunt DLC I never played it.
