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Where do YOU stand in the Mage/Templar War?


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AresKeith

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Steelcan wrote...

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cjones91 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Anybody else want to create a new Tevinter Imperium for the lulz?

 As long as it does'nt involve slavery and blood magic and it's a place where mages can live without fear of being killed for being born.


Look at my avatar




Your not gonna make your Inquisitor look like that are you? lol

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Lord Raijin

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AresKeith wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

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cjones91 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Anybody else want to create a new Tevinter Imperium for the lulz?

 As long as it does'nt involve slavery and blood magic and it's a place where mages can live without fear of being killed for being born.


Look at my avatar




Your not gonna make your Inquisitor look like that are you? lol


My version of DA: I

My Inquisitor (Dr. House) and my compions of choice.

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cjones91

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Lord Raijin wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

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cjones91 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Anybody else want to create a new Tevinter Imperium for the lulz?

 As long as it does'nt involve slavery and blood magic and it's a place where mages can live without fear of being killed for being born.


Look at my avatar




Your not gonna make your Inquisitor look like that are you? lol


My version of DA: I

My Inquisitor (Dr. House) and my compions of choice.

Image IPB

Dr.House is awesome and I too would make my Inquisitor like him if given the chance.

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Lord Raijin

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cjones91 wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

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cjones91 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Anybody else want to create a new Tevinter Imperium for the lulz?

 As long as it does'nt involve slavery and blood magic and it's a place where mages can live without fear of being killed for being born.


Look at my avatar




Your not gonna make your Inquisitor look like that are you? lol


My version of DA: I

My Inquisitor (Dr. House) and my compions of choice.

Image IPB

Dr.House is awesome and I too would make my Inquisitor like him if given the chance.


Dr. Cuddy can be Inquisitor 's LI :) Dreams can't hurt ;)

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Lord Raijin wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

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cjones91 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Anybody else want to create a new Tevinter Imperium for the lulz?

 As long as it does'nt involve slavery and blood magic and it's a place where mages can live without fear of being killed for being born.


Look at my avatar




Your not gonna make your Inquisitor look like that are you? lol


My version of DA: I

My Inquisitor (Dr. House) and my compions of choice.

Image IPB

Dr.House is awesome and I too would make my Inquisitor like him if given the chance.


Dr. Cuddy can be Inquisitor 's LI :) Dreams can't hurt ;)

Could you imagine all the bickering and sexual tension in the room?It would be hilarious to watch the Inquisitor get into a battle of wits with his/her love interest and at the end of the day they end up having hate sex.

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Lord Raijin

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cjones91 wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

<-------

cjones91 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Anybody else want to create a new Tevinter Imperium for the lulz?

 As long as it does'nt involve slavery and blood magic and it's a place where mages can live without fear of being killed for being born.


Look at my avatar




Your not gonna make your Inquisitor look like that are you? lol


My version of DA: I

My Inquisitor (Dr. House) and my compions of choice.

Image IPB

Dr.House is awesome and I too would make my Inquisitor like him if given the chance.


Dr. Cuddy can be Inquisitor 's LI :) Dreams can't hurt ;)

Could you imagine all the bickering and sexual tension in the room?It would be hilarious to watch the Inquisitor get into a battle of wits with his/her love interest and at the end of the day they end up having hate sex.


That generally happens in most situations. I was hoping simular situation would've happen between Orsino and the Knight-Commander.
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It was the only peaceful solution for resoving the Mage and Templar mess.

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cjones91 wrote...
I don't see how medical research would stagnate since magical healing would be a specialized field and not anyone could do it. If anything it could help improve medical care for the people of Thedas, as people use the various herbs and incredients to make highly effective potions because they could buy them from a magical healer's shop.

Meh call me a pessimist, but unless the writers introduce another drawback to healing magic, Thedas lacks incentive in conducting indepth research on the various diseases, viruses, and other physical impairments/ailments as a mage could magic most of them away.

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Guys, please, stop the quote pyramids. '_'

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Im still with the Mages.But with the Templars breaking away from the Chantry I wanna see how things go in DAI.It was more about disliking the Chantry than the Templars for me.

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I'm down for Dr. House and some T on M love u long time fun.

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cjones91 wrote...

Two wrongs don't make a right.No matter how much mages are superior if they start enslaving people then they will be wiped out by the mundanes.

Human slaves are unnecessary. A united Thedas under the rule of mages will be powerful enough to defeat and enslave the Qunari. Two birds with one stone. Tevinter's slavery problem is solved and the threat of the Qunari is extinguished. Before that, the Templar Order and Chantry need to be eradicated.

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JackumsD wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Two wrongs don't make a right.No matter how much mages are superior if they start enslaving people then they will be wiped out by the mundanes.

Human slaves are unnecessary. A united Thedas under the rule of mages will be powerful enough to defeat and enslave the Qunari. Two birds with one stone. Tevinter's slavery problem is solved and the threat of the Qunari is extinguished. Before that, the Templar Order and Chantry need to be eradicated.

So following your extremist supremacist ideas, the people who should actually rule the world, are the Wunari Mages, since they are superior to both humans, human mages,and other Qunari....

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EmperorSahlertz wrote...

JackumsD wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Two wrongs don't make a right.No matter how much mages are superior if they start enslaving people then they will be wiped out by the mundanes.

Human slaves are unnecessary. A united Thedas under the rule of mages will be powerful enough to defeat and enslave the Qunari. Two birds with one stone. Tevinter's slavery problem is solved and the threat of the Qunari is extinguished. Before that, the Templar Order and Chantry need to be eradicated.

So following your extremist supremacist ideas, the people who should actually rule the world, are the Wunari Mages, since they are superior to both humans, human mages,and other Qunari....

They're not superior. The Qunari as a whole are considered "superior" due to their technology and medicine. Neither of those are exclusive to the Saarebas, or even a product of them. The Saarebas are actually less adept at using magic than Circle mages, due to their lifestyle and lack of proper training. Nowhere has it been stated that their potential prowess with magic is greater than that of humans, either. 

Modifié par JackumsD, 16 juillet 2013 - 02:54 .


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JackumsD wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Two wrongs don't make a right.No matter how much mages are superior if they start enslaving people then they will be wiped out by the mundanes.

Human slaves are unnecessary. A united Thedas under the rule of mages will be powerful enough to defeat and enslave the Qunari. Two birds with one stone. Tevinter's slavery problem is solved and the threat of the Qunari is extinguished. Before that, the Templar Order and Chantry need to be eradicated.


Enslaving qunari isn't really better than enslaving humans.

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I'm kind of weirded out by all the people claiming tranquility is a mercy. We've seen a guy get temporarily cured of being tranquil, and he pretty much went straight to begging for death rather than living as a tranquil.

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Eveangaline wrote...

Enslaving qunari isn't really better than enslaving humans.

It's better than them enslaving you.

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cjones91 wrote...
True but a noble can make people obey him/her with threats of violence and/or death as well.Nobles frequently get away with abusing their power as long as they don't ****** off other nobles.


And how does he do that? Trough others.
Trough his guards and flinkies. Trough other people that obey him. What happens to a noble if his guards and servants refuse obedience? He has no power.

That doesnt' happen with a mage.

I would love to play as a possessed Mage PC if those mechanics were in the game.


Given how many people are angry when a cutscene takes away control from a PC, that would go well.
Alo,s possesion is pretty much a done deal. There won't be any "wrestling of contol"...something like that may happen with a merger (Anders), but not true possesion (Uldred)

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JackumsD wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

JackumsD wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Two wrongs don't make a right.No matter how much mages are superior if they start enslaving people then they will be wiped out by the mundanes.

Human slaves are unnecessary. A united Thedas under the rule of mages will be powerful enough to defeat and enslave the Qunari. Two birds with one stone. Tevinter's slavery problem is solved and the threat of the Qunari is extinguished. Before that, the Templar Order and Chantry need to be eradicated.

So following your extremist supremacist ideas, the people who should actually rule the world, are the Wunari Mages, since they are superior to both humans, human mages,and other Qunari....

They're not superior. The Qunari as a whole are considered "superior" due to their technology and medicine. Neither of those are exclusive to the Saarebas, or even a product of them. The Saarebas are actually less adept at using magic than Circle mages, due to their lifestyle and lack of proper training. Nowhere has it been stated that their potential prowess with magic is greater than that of humans, either. 

Physiologically Qunari are far superior to humans, and the potential for magic is the same within the Qunari as it is in the humans and elves. So by your logic, the Qunari mages should rule the world, from a survivalist supremacist point of view.

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EmperorSahlertz wrote...

JackumsD wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

JackumsD wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Two wrongs don't make a right.No matter how much mages are superior if they start enslaving people then they will be wiped out by the mundanes.

Human slaves are unnecessary. A united Thedas under the rule of mages will be powerful enough to defeat and enslave the Qunari. Two birds with one stone. Tevinter's slavery problem is solved and the threat of the Qunari is extinguished. Before that, the Templar Order and Chantry need to be eradicated.

So following your extremist supremacist ideas, the people who should actually rule the world, are the Wunari Mages, since they are superior to both humans, human mages,and other Qunari....

They're not superior. The Qunari as a whole are considered "superior" due to their technology and medicine. Neither of those are exclusive to the Saarebas, or even a product of them. The Saarebas are actually less adept at using magic than Circle mages, due to their lifestyle and lack of proper training. Nowhere has it been stated that their potential prowess with magic is greater than that of humans, either. 

Physiologically Qunari are far superior to humans, and the potential for magic is the same within the Qunari as it is in the humans and elves. So by your logic, the Qunari mages should rule the world, from a survivalist supremacist point of view.


I think mabari's should rule the world. They seem intelligent enough to handle things just fine.

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Indeed. Mabari would probably handle it much better than, humans, elves, dwarves and Qunari combined... Honestly, their lack of intellegence is their greatest virtue.

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EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Indeed. Mabari would probably handle it much better than, humans, elves, dwarves and Qunari combined... Honestly, their lack of intellegence is their greatest virtue.

 Mabari would be terrible at running a country because they can easily be swayed with food.

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cjones91 wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Indeed. Mabari would probably handle it much better than, humans, elves, dwarves and Qunari combined... Honestly, their lack of intellegence is their greatest virtue.

 Mabari would be terrible at running a country because they can easily be swayed with food.


I heard the Mabrari's diet consist of human, elf and Qunari. Not sure how they can be swayed with food.

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EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Wynne didn't know she was a mage, when she accidentally set the boys hair on fire....
And morality and willingness is of little consequence for an Abomination.


I'll concede to you on Wynne, but I am referring to before the abomination
part takes hold. There are mages who resist due to a moral code that prevents
them from giving in so easily. Some may avoid it out of fear, others due to
stubborness-but all in all it depends on the person.

Simply saying Morality has little impact on an abomination is true, but it does
impact the mage. In my eyes, a mage and an abomination are not one and the same, (though
uldred seems to be a different excuse altogether) The mage is locked out while
the demon has it's fun. The mage is not to blame for the actions of the demon.
But they are culpable for allowing it control.

They do not all give in, they do not all crave power.
Once again it comes down to willingness. The mages themselves are often
shown backed into a corner when they break out the abomination transformation.
It's not because they want to become such.

Modifié par ames4u, 16 juillet 2013 - 10:38 .


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EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Physiologically Qunari are far superior to humans, and the potential for magic is the same within the Qunari as it is in the humans and elves. So by your logic, the Qunari mages should rule the world, from a survivalist supremacist point of view.

Incorrect. That's not following my "logic" at all.

The Qunari condemn magic, and as such the Saarebas will never be as proficient with it as trained human mages. Their potential is irrelevant if they're incapable of meeting it due to their religion's dogmatic views and restrictions.

If the Qunari embraced magic, a la Tevinter? Then yes, it would be fitting for them to rule, as they would became the superior race of Thedas. However, they don't, so human mages are still the top dogs.

Modifié par JackumsD, 17 juillet 2013 - 01:59 .


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ames4u wrote...
The mages themselves are often
shown backed into a corner when they break out the abomination transformation.
It's not because they want to become such.


Perhaps but take into account that life is hard. That seems like an obvious observation but it's important to remember that, even if a mage has naught but good intention (and that is not true for all mages), there are innumerable situations in everyday life that can tempt the mages to abuse their powers or to surrender to a demon.
Should the people be dependant upon mages having a life devoid of concerns in order for them to be safe?