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[MassivelyEffective0730]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I agree with OP. Ending is very very satisfying for the people who get it.

I get it perfectly. And hate it.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I agree with OP. Ending is very very satisfying for the people who get it.

I get it perfectly. And hate it.

i love it.How can anyone hate the ME3 ending if he's played Uncharted 3 ?

[Seival]

[Dubozz]

ME3 ending is ****ing disaster.

upd. Wow this picture is an art. You should be more artistic or probably post it a few more times (like 100-150) and maybe one day you will come close to super mac creativity level.

Modifié par Dubozz, 12 juin 2013 - 09:52 .

[Bill Casey]

AlanC9 wrote...

What headcanon are you talking about? We see the galaxy saved; there's no head about it, it's just canon.

The spirit of the galaxy is only saved in refuse...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 12 juin 2013 - 09:36 .

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

dreamgazer wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

I might be crazy, but... isn't this the identical thread to the one from last week? Or was that one locked?

Dude, the same thread---"you don't get the ending"; "it's about sacrifice!"---has been repeated over and over for the past fifteen months.

and whining about the ending hasn't been repeated over and over? yeah, whatever

You're right: they both have! 

So, where do we go from here?

Don't mind me, I'm just sorting out where I am on the S&C learning curve... 

[LinksOcarina]

I agree its one theme of the endings, but its not the ONLY theme of the endings.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Seboist wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

So what I gather is you guys hate making choices that you can't paragon out of for once

Paragon is a choice throughout all three games. You don't use it to get "out" of anything, since it is the actual choice itself.

The Paragon "choice" has never had any real difference from the alternative other than to feel warm and fuzzy about oneself  while running down the next couple of corridors.

I might agree to an extent if you had been referring to the ending.

As far as all three games go, it's unfortunate the differences weren't enough for you. I found the existence of the choices quite rewarding, and the consequences of the choices (earlier in the storytelling process) to be quite profound.

Is it considered weird around here that I actually like the Mass Effect games? 

[Bill Casey]

Saving Private Ryan is about sacrifice...
Mass Effect is about war crime justification...

[AresKeith]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

Is it considered weird around here that I actually like the Mass Effect games? 

No, because everyone here likes Mass Effect. But some people around here (OP and a few more) seems to think that if you dislike one of the games or certain parts of the game then you hate all of Mass Effect

[OdanUrr]

@OP: Already discussed the Crucible here, you're welcome to read my thoughts on it.

[AresKeith]

Jimmy I think you have competition lol ;D

[Iakus]

Bill Casey wrote...

Saving Private Ryan is about sacrifice...
Mass Effect is about war crime justification...

Pretty much.

Even if my Shepards could live through one of these chocies, they probably wouldn't want to, knwoing what they did.

[AlanC9]

Bill Casey wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

What headcanon are you talking about? We see the galaxy saved; there's no head about it, it's just canon.

The spirit of the galaxy is only saved in refuse...

Spirit of the galaxy? What's that?

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

AresKeith wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

Is it considered weird around here that I actually like the Mass Effect games? 

No, because everyone here likes Mass Effect. But some people around here (OP and a few more) seems to think that if you dislike one of the games or certain parts of the game then you hate all of Mass Effect

I've begun to pick up on that, although the equation in this instance appears to quite literally be presented as: "If you don't like the ending then you are stupid."

Which, as we all know, is the best way to convince people to like something. 

[AresKeith]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

Is it considered weird around here that I actually like the Mass Effect games? 

No, because everyone here likes Mass Effect. But some people around here (OP and a few more) seems to think that if you dislike one of the games or certain parts of the game then you hate all of Mass Effect

I've begun to pick up on that, although the equation in this instance appears to quite literally be presented as: "If you don't like the ending then you are stupid."

Which, as we all know, is the best way to convince people to like something. 

It hasn't sunk into their heads yet that people get the endings just fine, we either don't like the premise and/or the execution and the explanation of the ending

[Tron Mega]

iakus wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Saving Private Ryan is about sacrifice...
Mass Effect is about war crime justification...

Pretty much.

Even if my Shepards could live through one of these chocies, they probably wouldn't want to, knwoing what they did.

even more so, how could shepard explain what happened?

and who in their right mind would beleive him?

"....and thats how i saved the galaxy!"

[teh DRUMPf!!]

LOL... this page has mad roflerz.

[favoritehookeronthecitadel]

**** you OP.

Modifié par favoritehookeronthecitadel, 13 juin 2013 - 03:23 .

[AlanC9]

Tron Mega wrote...

even more so, how could shepard explain what happened?

and who in their right mind would beleive him?

"....and thats how i saved the galaxy!"

In High EMS Destroy, Shep wouldn't have to explain a damn thing. Just say that the Crucible did what it was designed to do.

The Sheplyst has a more difficult problem.

[CronoDragoon]

Tron Mega wrote...

even more so, how could shepard explain what happened?

and who in their right mind would beleive him?

"....and thats how i saved the galaxy!"

...Why wouldn't anybody believe him?

[Iakus]

Tron Mega wrote...

even more so, how could shepard explain what happened?

and who in their right mind would beleive him?

"....and thats how i saved the galaxy!"

"Well it all started when this hologram of a kid i saw die a tthe start of the invasion said 'wake up'..."

"Commander have you been examined for head injuries?"

[CronoDragoon]

iakus wrote...
To the Catalyst, all violence and competition is "conflict"  It never refers to war, revolution, or natural selection.  It's all "conflict"

That's not true. He specifically differentiates "war" from the "conflict" going on between the Reapers and the cycle's inhabitants when Shepard says that they are at war with the Reapers. Moreover, he does qualify the conflict between synthetics and organics to be a rebellion. I don't even remember why we are debating this point anymore, to be honest.

But one "solution" is instead of harvesting organics, to allow them to prevent the rise of synthetics themselves, forwarned of how "conflict" is inevitable if theylet them gain a foothold.  It's not a solution the Catalyst likes.  Butit's one organics may be receptive to trying.

Given that he states it is inevitable that synthetics will wipe out organics without Reaper intervention, he doesn't believe it is possible for organics to prevent the rise of synthetics. So if he is the one shaping the choices, he would not give us Destroy. I would say it's less a matter of preference and more a matter of: I don't understand how Destroy can be construed as a solution from the Catalyst's point of view, given his absolutist statements about the future.

iakus wrote...
I didn't zone out.  I'm saying that statement in EC is utter and complete nonsense on top of the sheer nonsense of the endings.  Nonsense with a side of nonsense that flies in the face of everything we've learned about the Reapers over the entire trilogy.  EC deserves to be mocked for that line alone.

Regardless, it is canon, and must be accounted for in any discussion about the Catalyst's motivations.

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 13 juin 2013 - 05:08 .