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[MrCrabby]

 After your reveal do you expect an avalance of negativity or gushing praise? Are you bracing for the worst? I am honestly curious about your mindset.

At any rate I really do hope the best for you guys.

[sandalisthemaker]

Well, after today's showing at E3, I really hope the BSN doesn't burn down or anything crazy like that.
I think the reaction will be mixed, personally.
Since I enjoyed both DA and DA2, Bioware would have to do something drastic to turn me off to the series. My fear for today is that they barely show anything at E3. EA has what, an hour to show off all their games? Most of that will be taken up by their silly sports games, so I really hope DA3 has enough time to shine, or at least give off a good impression.
I still remain hopeful and optimistic though, and there are only 2 things that would *really* annoy me:
1. That the game is revealed to be on next gen consoles only. 2. That multiplayer will affect single player, although I doubt we will find that out at E3 regardless.

Modifié par sandalisthemaker, 10 juin 2013 - 02:42 .

[Lord Gremlin]

Gaider recently tweeted that whatever they show for some fans it'll be like deleting their fan fiction. I'd say it is possible to show only good stuff. Don't show set protagonist because it's a customizable character. Show beautiful world, showcase some major characters...

[Iron Star]

I think this is a pretty accurate description of how most of the Bioware staff feels right now.

[azarhal]

Both Gaider and Chris posted tweets to the effect that they expect some people to overreact badly.

Hopefully, they don't cause this place to blow out. I want to discuss the revealed information, not people's unrealized fanfictions...

[Herr Uhl]

It'll be a ****storm here, no matter what they do.

[frostajulie]

I don't think Bioware Gives A **** TBH.

[Chris Priestly]

frostajulie wrote...

I don't think Bioware Gives A **** TBH.

Yet, here you are being a negative dink.

We care. We care a lot.

I  think we know we will not please everyone becasue not everyone wants the same 100% of things. However, we are making Dragon Age Inquisiton the best game we feel it can be. Hopefully that will please most fans, but to assume that it will please ALL fans is a bit naive.

[IanPolaris]

azarhal wrote...

Both Gaider and Chris posted tweets to the effect that they expect some people to overreact badly.

Hopefully, they don't cause this place to blow out. I want to discuss the revealed information, not people's unrealized fanfictions...

If they do, maybe they should learn something or reconsider a few things.  I remember just before ME3 was released when Bioware suddenly starting insisting that the "journey" was more important than the ending.  I started getting a very bad feeling right there and then.

-Polaris

[Itkovian]

IanPolaris wrote...

If they do, maybe they should learn something or reconsider a few things.  I remember just before ME3 was released when Bioware suddenly starting insisting that the "journey" was more important than the ending.  I started getting a very bad feeling right there and then.

-Polaris

But how were they wrong?

I've always found it ludicrous how 10 minutes could invalidate 40 hours of excellent gameplay.

I mean really, no matter how much you may hate the ending, there's little doubt that the rest of the game is superior to ME2, including the storytelling.

And quite frankly, the journey being more important goes for pretty much every bloody game out there, especially RPGs. That's why we have 40+ hour games instead of the 5-10 hours most action games span these days.

Beyond that, I long for the day when not every thread is seen as an opportunity to make a snarky pointless remark about ME3's ending. ESPECIALLY in the bloody Dragon Age forums.

[Fredvdp]

azarhal wrote...

Both Gaider and Chris posted tweets to the effect that they expect some people to overreact badly.

Hopefully, they don't cause this place to blow out. I want to discuss the revealed information, not people's unrealized fanfictions...

Now what could cause bad reactions from the community? Maybe they'll announce Dragon Age III as an Xbox One exlusive.

[IanPolaris]

Itkovian wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

If they do, maybe they should learn something or reconsider a few things.  I remember just before ME3 was released when Bioware suddenly starting insisting that the "journey" was more important than the ending.  I started getting a very bad feeling right there and then.

-Polaris

But how were they wrong?

I've always found it ludicrous how 10 minutes could invalidate 40 hours of excellent gameplay.

The ending debacle indicates that they were, and yes a bad ending can ruin an entire story (and make the reader/player look more critically at flaws that otherwise would be overlooked).  ME3 isn't the first game or story to suffer from a bad ending, but it's probably one of the most extreme examples.

-Polaris

[IanPolaris]

Fredvdp wrote...

azarhal wrote...

Both Gaider and Chris posted tweets to the effect that they expect some people to overreact badly.

Hopefully, they don't cause this place to blow out. I want to discuss the revealed information, not people's unrealized fanfictions...

Now what could cause bad reactions from the community? Maybe they'll announce Dragon Age III as an Xbox One exlusive.

Well one thing that worries me right out of the game is the very name:  Inquisition.  I can't think of a much more polarizing or contentious name, and IMHO Bioware was foolish to use it.

-Polaris

[frostajulie]

Chris Priestly wrote...

frostajulie wrote...

I don't think Bioware Gives A **** TBH.

Yet, here you are being a negative dink.

We care. We care a lot.

I  think we know we will not please everyone becasue not everyone wants the same 100% of things. However, we are making Dragon Age Inquisiton the best game we feel it can be. Hopefully that will please most fans, but to assume that it will please ALL fans is a bit naive.

Now that is interesting.  Bioware spends the past year and a half loudly letting their fans know in very clear terms that the opinions of the fans does not mean much to them.  Bioware loudly lets everyone know that the games they make are THEIR story and therefore if people don't like them then tough, the games they make are not for them, we at bioware stick to artistic integrity, can't please everyone, yadda yadda yadda.  So I get the point I get the message.

This is YOUR game.  This is YOUR story. You want to make a good product that will sell but if it violates lore, if it makes no narrative sense to  a huge part of your consumer fanbase that problem is not YOUR problem.

IE you hope people will like it but if they don't you don't really care.


I get the message Bioware has been shouting for nearly 2 years.  Because I state the attitude this companies own devs have been touting since the end of ME3 became a controversy I'm a negative dink:?

ok then.  I still am pretty sure Bioware does not care about the reaction on the forums or any negative fan reactions. If that makes me a dink fine. but this is the logical conclusion I feel led to based on Bioware reaction to the ME3 ending and DA2 response.

I am soo sorry that bugs some people but really where else can my conclusions lead me?

As for DA3 I hope its an awesome game to both play and see, believe it or not I am rooting for the game but without the rose tinted blinders I had for ME3.  I actually mostly enjoy Bioware games... until the end of ME3.  I woud enjoy a new game to play.

Dink out.

[Sol Downer]

IanPolaris wrote...

Fredvdp wrote...

azarhal wrote...

Both Gaider and Chris posted tweets to the effect that they expect some people to overreact badly.

Hopefully, they don't cause this place to blow out. I want to discuss the revealed information, not people's unrealized fanfictions...

Now what could cause bad reactions from the community? Maybe they'll announce Dragon Age III as an Xbox One exlusive.

Well one thing that worries me right out of the game is the very name:  Inquisition.  I can't think of a much more polarizing or contentious name, and IMHO Bioware was foolish to use it.

-Polaris

-Origins

-Rise to Power

-Revelations

[satunnainen]

Well, it cannot be just like da1 and da2 since those were quite different. So some people are surely going to be disappointed. I wish they atleast keep the talking hero from da2. When I resently replayed da1 it felt a bit weird to have a mute hero.

Modifié par satunnainen, 10 juin 2013 - 03:37 .

[Medhia Nox]

Yes, Jews and Muslims everywhere should be outraged at the use of the term Inquisition... sitting in interrogation and having your property and wealth seized in a sanctioned act of greed must be infuriating.

Fortunately - in Thedas, everyone does things for emotional overreaction and not greed (unlike the real world where it's pretty much opposite) - and the mage/templar war is about actual killing (unlike the real world Inquisitions which weren't all about killing people even if it did happen).

[Boycott Bioware]

Chris Priestly wrote...
I think we know we will not please everyone becasue not everyone wants the same 100% of things. However, we are making Dragon Age Inquisiton the best game we feel it can be. Hopefully that will please most fans, but to assume that it will please ALL fans is a bit naive.

I remember the movie The Gladiator...the Gladiator master forgot his name say " I am not the best because i kill quickly, but i am the best because i win the crowd...you can achieve more" something like this...then Maximus say "I will win the crowd, I will show them what they never see before...", something like this...then the Gladiator master said "win the crowd, then you will earn your freedom...", something like this...

[IanPolaris]

Ultimashade wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Fredvdp wrote...

azarhal wrote...

Both Gaider and Chris posted tweets to the effect that they expect some people to overreact badly.

Hopefully, they don't cause this place to blow out. I want to discuss the revealed information, not people's unrealized fanfictions...

Now what could cause bad reactions from the community? Maybe they'll announce Dragon Age III as an Xbox One exlusive.

Well one thing that worries me right out of the game is the very name:  Inquisition.  I can't think of a much more polarizing or contentious name, and IMHO Bioware was foolish to use it.

-Polaris

-Origins

That's not a particularly contentious or polarizing name.  Origins can (and does) mean a lot of things.

-Rise to Power

This isn't particularly polarizing or contentious either, since the term is used in a lot of ways to describe both good and bad ascendencies.  I see nothing intrinsically emotional about the name.

-Revelations

Other than perhaps a nod towards the Apocryphal biblical book of the same name, I see nothing really polarizing about that name either.

However, "Inquisition" has severe and polarizing emotional baggage both in real life (esp considering RL Spanish and Roman Inquisitions of the 15th to 17th centuries) and the game as well.

This is why I feel Bioware was foolish for choosing this name.

-Polaris

[Rafficus III]

No doubt they are aware of this. BSN and Bioware fans tend to be very polarizing at times. I wish them the best and wouldn't want to be in their situation. Some people are always going to ***** and moan. Must be tiring to hear all the time.

[Itkovian]

I'm fairly confident that, as far as Inquisition goes, they're going to a catchy name that brings attention to the game. If the title does that, it's done its job.

Besides, DAO already has Templars, so they're way past the point caring about the RL impacts of their terminology.

[IanPolaris]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Yes, Jews and Muslims everywhere should be outraged at the use of the term Inquisition... sitting in interrogation and having your property and wealth seized in a sanctioned act of greed must be infuriating.

Fortunately - in Thedas, everyone does things for emotional overreaction and not greed (unlike the real world where it's pretty much opposite) - and the mage/templar war is about actual killing (unlike the real world Inquisitions which weren't all about killing people even if it did happen).

Not just Jews or Muslims.  Spain used to be a hotbed of Calvinism at the start of the Protestant Reformation.  The Spanish Inquisition wiped it out.  Brutally.

The point is in real life Inquisition is a hotly debated and emotional term that carries a lot of negative freight to this day.  I think that gets in the way and thus reflects a foolish risk and choice on Bioware's part.

-Polaris

[Beerfish]

Past behavior often is a good indicator of future behavior. BioWare knows that there will be a mix of super happy people, the disappointed crowd and a bit of every thing in between including the full on hate crowd.

The best of the threads will be good discussion on what is shown and picking apart every single frame and character and then speculating on what everything means.

[Androme]

Chris Priestly wrote...

frostajulie wrote...

I don't think Bioware Gives A **** TBH.

Yet, here you are being a negative dink.

We care. We care a lot.

I  think we know we will not please everyone becasue not everyone wants the same 100% of things. However, we are making Dragon Age Inquisiton the best game we feel it can be. Hopefully that will please most fans, but to assume that it will please ALL fans is a bit naive.

Define ''fans''.

[IanPolaris]

Itkovian wrote...

I'm fairly confident that, as far as Inquisition goes, they're going to a catchy name that brings attention to the game. If the title does that, it's done its job.

Besides, DAO already has Templars, so they're way past the point caring about the RL impacts of their terminology.

I am sure they are aware of this (Bioware I mean).  In fact I know they are because (IIRC), this discussion has come up and we were told there was considerable internal discussion in Bioware about the very point I am raising.

I understand the value of catchy, but if catchy makes a good number of  people hate your product before they've stopped reading the title, that strikes me as a foolish thing to do.

-Polaris