Be honest Bioware staff
#76
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 06:46
EA is in a rather chaotic state with with head executive departure which could work for/against Bioware.
That all said, will this be last game to see John Riccitiello's infamous (and arguably detrimental) influence in gaming development or will be the first without?
#77
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 06:56
The company has changed not just in quality but it's identity. I think they're having an identity crisis.
Plus, EA's really, really in the suck. The only thing that company has going for them is Dice. Without Dice EA would fail. Really hard. And they got madden and fifa. But sports games... .meh... sports games.
#78
Guest_Morocco Mole_*
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 06:59
Guest_Morocco Mole_*
NeonFlux117 wrote...
Damage control. Bioware is in damage control. SWTOR- fail, DA2- really FAIL, ME3- epic,and I mean, EPIC fail.
The only one of these I would consider a failure is DA2. Despite the controversy ME3 sold quite well and even TOR has managed to start turning a profit for the company
#79
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 07:02
Morocco Mole wrote...
NeonFlux117 wrote...
Damage control. Bioware is in damage control. SWTOR- fail, DA2- really FAIL, ME3- epic,and I mean, EPIC fail.
The only one of these I would consider a failure is DA2. Despite the controversy ME3 sold quite well and even TOR has managed to start turning a profit for the company
oh yeah, sales wise. Player reaction.... Nah, not so much. But yes ME3 was the best selling Mass Effect game- selling more than 6 million copies, I think.
#80
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 07:05
MrCrabby wrote...
After your reveal do you expect an avalance of negativity or gushing praise? Are you bracing for the worst? I am honestly curious about your mindset.
At any rate I really do hope the best for you guys.
I expected people to be delighted to see/hear Morrigan, and to a lesser extent see Varric. I expected there to be some mix of disappointment/relief with the release date being pushed back, and I also expected there to be some fans that would be dismissive, as for them if it's not gameplay, it's not worth anything (which is fair).
#81
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 07:08
What do you mean, "to a lesser extent Varric"? His awesomeness can't be denied!Allan Schumacher wrote...
MrCrabby wrote...
After your reveal do you expect an avalance of negativity or gushing praise? Are you bracing for the worst? I am honestly curious about your mindset.
At any rate I really do hope the best for you guys.
I expected people to be delighted to see/hear Morrigan, and to a lesser extent see Varric. I expected there to be some mix of disappointment/relief with the release date being pushed back, and I also expected there to be some fans that would be dismissive, as for them if it's not gameplay, it's not worth anything (which is fair).
#82
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 07:18
I would disagree with but one thing, While yes "You(Bioware/EA)" may not be twisting our arm, retailers like Steam, with preorder equipment or in the case of a potental day 1 DLC that you can "only get if you preorder" it then does twist our arm. Cause they are pretty much saying buy it early or miss out on stuff. And thats pretty much using peer presure if I have ever seen it.
I disagree.
A lot of games today come with preorder bonuses and the like, but the only ones I preorder are the ones I already know I will want to pick up day one anyways (ironically I have preordered more games since the digital transition, than when preorder was more useful to secure one's copy).
If there's a level of compulsion that you must get ALL the things, then (trying not to sound harsh saying this) that's something that you can work on. I don't know, I don't think there's anything special about my ability to not care about getting preorder content (or even Day One DLC). Maybe I'm naive, but I think it's within the realm of other people to actually learn how to mentally put themselves in this place.
To use another example, I bought Splinter Cell: Conviction on a Steam sale because I wanted to play the co-op. It was during the Christmas sale, and was like 30% or 40% off. Then, during the same week, they had the one day 75% sale for it. I was pissed because I felt cheated for not waiting.
There's two things I realized from this: First, I realize that there's a possibility of games going on extreme sales even during the big sale events. Second, I learned to set "price points" that I consider a game is worth. If I get the game at or below that price point, then I am happy. So if it goes from 50% to 75% off in a day, it has no become a "well played Steam. Well played" instead of a "RAARRRGH SMASH."
The main reason why I was able to make this epiphany is that I realized it was just plain old bad luck. I may not have gotten the super cheap price, BUT... I did get it at a price that I felt was fair.
I do this with all my games now. What influences my "demand" (i.e. willingness to pay) includes general interest in a game, as well as my current game backlog, and so forth. So my prices are always somewhat fluid. I'll see a sale for something like Skyrim, and then go "Eh, do I feel like spending X? Is it worth it at this time?" If so, I pick it up. If not, I hold off. No shortage of games to play I find!
But with games, its a new medium and really the whole, "get speical items for preoder" can be considered a slimy way to get people to get a game.
IMO, anyone that buys a game because it has preorder bonuses, and not because they've already decided that they want the game day one at this point and very little will change that, needs to exercise some better diligence.
If I find myself on the fence about preordering, it's because I'm not convinced that the game is worth Day One investment of my time. If there's offers that I miss out on, it's still because the base game hasn't convinced me to preorder. This way, the preorder bonuses then become purely bonuses, rather than penalties (in the event that I don't preorder).
Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 12 juin 2013 - 04:48 .
#83
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 07:19
Fredvdp wrote...
What do you mean, "to a lesser extent Varric"? His awesomeness can't be denied!
I think Varric is awesomesauce, but it's my perception that Morrigan has a stronger following.
#84
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 07:37
NeonFlux117 wrote...
Damage control. Bioware is in damage control. SWTOR- fail, DA2- really FAIL, ME3- epic,and I mean, EPIC fail.
The company has changed not just in quality but it's identity. I think they're having an identity crisis.
Plus, EA's really, really in the suck. The only thing that company has going for them is Dice. Without Dice EA would fail. Really hard. And they got madden and fifa. But sports games... .meh... sports games.
EA still has Crytek as well.
And as far as I've seen, Crysis 3 was a success, I know I sure as hell enjoyed it as much as Crysis/Crysis Warhead and Crysis 2.
As for pre-ordering or even just buying DA:I, I will need a lot more information before I decide on that.
Modifié par LucianaIV, 12 juin 2013 - 07:40 .
#85
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 07:44
#86
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 08:00
Allan Schumacher wrote...
Crytek was an EA Partner (i.e. EA published)
I honestly don't know the specifics lol
All I know is it has EA stamps all over it and that it was a success nonetheless.
I'm no fan of EA, but that doesn't mean I won't buy games from specific studios like Crytek or Bioware (be they part of EA or simply have their games published by EA), especially when they have series like Crysis, Mass Effect and Dragon Age which I very much enjoy playing.
Modifié par LucianaIV, 12 juin 2013 - 08:03 .
#87
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 08:11
#88
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 08:14
Chris Priestly wrote...
frostajulie wrote...
I don't think Bioware Gives A **** TBH.
Yet, here you are being a negative dink.
We care. We care a lot.
I think we know we will not please everyone becasue not everyone wants the same 100% of things. However, we are making Dragon Age Inquisiton the best game we feel it can be. Hopefully that will please most fans, but to assume that it will please ALL fans is a bit naive.
i watched the interview with aron flynn, if y'all are making it to please console players as well, porbably going to make a great deal of PC gamers angry....
#89
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 08:32
#90
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 08:42
kinderschlager wrote...
Chris Priestly wrote...
frostajulie wrote...
I don't think Bioware Gives A **** TBH.
Yet, here you are being a negative dink.
We care. We care a lot.
I think we know we will not please everyone becasue not everyone wants the same 100% of things. However, we are making Dragon Age Inquisiton the best game we feel it can be. Hopefully that will please most fans, but to assume that it will please ALL fans is a bit naive.
i watched the interview with aron flynn, if y'all are making it to please console players as well, porbably going to make a great deal of PC gamers angry....
Bioware makes games to please gamers.
Screw all these "sides" we choose to pick out for ourselves. <_<
Modifié par Savber100, 12 juin 2013 - 08:42 .
#91
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 09:37
#92
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 09:46
My personal criteria for pre-ordering a game is pretty much "I MUST HAVE THIS GAME NAO!"Allan Schumacher wrote...
If I find myself on the fence about preordering, it's because I'm not convinced that the game is worth Day One investment of my time. If there's offers that I miss out on, it's still because the base game hasn't convinced me to preorder. This way, the preorder bonuses then become purely bonuses, rather than penalties (in the event that I don't preorder).
Current unreleased games(whether or not available for pre-order) meeting that criteria includes: Divinity: Dragon Commander, Divinity: Original Sin, Saints Row 4, Dreamfall Chapters: The Longest Journey and of course Dragon Age: Inquisition.
#93
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 09:51
That is, it was bet on Morrigan and Varric? But what about those players who like the other characters? What will get they? Nothing?I am surprised that the developers have persistently indulge the some fans and just as persistently to ignore the interests of others.Maybe should find a middle ground that all the fans would have been satisfied?Fredvdp wrote...
What do you mean, "to a lesser extent Varric"? His awesomeness can't be denied!Allan Schumacher wrote...
MrCrabby wrote...
After your reveal do you expect an avalance of negativity or gushing praise? Are you bracing for the worst? I am honestly curious about your mindset.
At any rate I really do hope the best for you guys.
I expected people to be delighted to see/hear Morrigan, and to a lesser extent see Varric. I expected there to be some mix of disappointment/relief with the release date being pushed back, and I also expected there to be some fans that would be dismissive, as for them if it's not gameplay, it's not worth anything (which is fair).
#94
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 09:57
aidana wrote...
That is, it was bet on Morrigan and Varric? But what about those players who like the other characters? What will get they? Nothing?I am surprised that the developers have persistently indulge the some fans and just as persistently to ignore the interests of others.Maybe should find a middle ground that all the fans would have been satisfied?Fredvdp wrote...
What do you mean, "to a lesser extent Varric"? His awesomeness can't be denied!Allan Schumacher wrote...
MrCrabby wrote...
After your reveal do you expect an avalance of negativity or gushing praise? Are you bracing for the worst? I am honestly curious about your mindset.
At any rate I really do hope the best for you guys.
I expected people to be delighted to see/hear Morrigan, and to a lesser extent see Varric. I expected there to be some mix of disappointment/relief with the release date being pushed back, and I also expected there to be some fans that would be dismissive, as for them if it's not gameplay, it's not worth anything (which is fair).
Are you surprised that they would take arguably the two most popular and recognizable characters from the first two games and put them in this teaser over someone like, say Wynne or Aveline?
#95
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 10:39
Ninja Stan wrote...
BioWare has been making console games since 2003. Here in 2013, in the year before a console shift and when games can be played in your browser, phone, and tablet, why are people still getting bent out of shape when games are multiplatform?
Nothing wrong with multiplatform gaming it is when a game is made to please one section of the group and the other platform is not used to the best it can be.
Like with DA2 which I think was designed with consoles in mind and the PC came second.
#96
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 11:31
Allan Schumacher wrote...
MrCrabby wrote...
After your reveal do you expect an avalance of negativity or gushing praise? Are you bracing for the worst? I am honestly curious about your mindset.
At any rate I really do hope the best for you guys.
I expected people to be delighted to see/hear Morrigan, and to a lesser extent see Varric. I expected there to be some mix of disappointment/relief with the release date being pushed back, and I also expected there to be some fans that would be dismissive, as for them if it's not gameplay, it's not worth anything (which is fair).
Hi Allan,
Has there been any clarification/reason for why a fully-cinematic reveal was done? Given the comments made even just last month about wanting to make sure that the game isn't revealed until they can fully show off the game, I am curious why the "show, not tell" mentality was kind of abandoned?
#97
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 11:48
What DID we see? A few parts of cutscenes that may or might not be in the actual game. Hardy a "reveal", just a teaser, as the title says.Fast Jimmy wrote...
Allan Schumacher wrote...
MrCrabby wrote...
After your reveal do you expect an avalance of negativity or gushing praise? Are you bracing for the worst? I am honestly curious about your mindset.
At any rate I really do hope the best for you guys.
I expected people to be delighted to see/hear Morrigan, and to a lesser extent see Varric. I expected there to be some mix of disappointment/relief with the release date being pushed back, and I also expected there to be some fans that would be dismissive, as for them if it's not gameplay, it's not worth anything (which is fair).
Hi Allan,
Has there been any clarification/reason for why a fully-cinematic reveal was done? Given the comments made even just last month about wanting to make sure that the game isn't revealed until they can fully show off the game, I am curious why the "show, not tell" mentality was kind of abandoned?
#98
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 01:08
Are you arguing that Monday's presentation wasn't the reveal? I can buy the sentiment that it was a reveal that didn't clarify anything, but are you saying that wasn't the real reveal, therefore Bioware has immunity to not providing details? Or am I reading into your response too deeply?
Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 12 juin 2013 - 01:17 .
#99
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 01:12
MrCrabby wrote...
After your reveal do you expect an avalance of negativity or gushing praise? Are you bracing for the worst? I am honestly curious about your mindset.
At any rate I really do hope the best for you guys.
Assuming that the staff are dishonest (which I doubt they are) for one moment here, how is your opening post going to convince them to be honest?
I'm a compulsive liar, but some guy on BSN want's me to start being honest. Hmm. What should I do?
Modifié par Abraham_uk, 12 juin 2013 - 01:21 .
#100
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 01:19





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