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Not gonna lie, I loved getting PM's from random people telling me they loved my name.

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syllogi wrote...

If moderation becomes extremely scarce here (no offense to RaenImrahl or the others, but the known mods can't be here 24/7), I'll just have to find another forum, and I'm sure even more of the good, sane posters will follow suit.


Funny you should mention 24/7 moderation... you may have noticed at the bottom of forums how several new moderator accounts have been added.  BioWareMod01, BioWareMod02, etc. 

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guess this gives me a reason to add more people.

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Dextro Milk wrote...

Not gonna lie, I loved getting PM's from random people telling me they loved my name.

I love your name. =]

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I love your name, Dextro Millk!

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RaenImrahl wrote...

syllogi wrote...

If moderation becomes extremely scarce here (no offense to RaenImrahl or the others, but the known mods can't be here 24/7), I'll just have to find another forum, and I'm sure even more of the good, sane posters will follow suit.


Funny you should mention 24/7 moderation... you may have noticed at the bottom of forums how several new moderator accounts have been added.  BioWareMod01, BioWareMod02, etc. 

Are they employees of Bioware?

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I sense an overwhelming number of friend requests to Moderators coming.Image IPB

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Dextro Milk

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acicm2 wrote...

guess this gives me a reason to add more people.

Your avatar made that 10x more creepy... 

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RaenImrahl wrote...

.. from what I understand, there's also a desire to limit the amount of PM spam that gets sent too and fro.  So, yes, it is an attempt to get people to discuss things in the open forums rather than just via PM.  Of course, you can still send people a friends request.

When you mean PM spam, are you talking about a problem caused by spam/phishing bots or just the sheer amount of user to user PMs?

Battlebloodmage wrote...

I suppose so, I don't mind if they change it to add options so people can only receive PM from friends. I don't see the need to PM strangers though, but if it's something that can be implemented, I'm not opposed to it, TBH. The main issue I have with the current change is we can't communicate with the mods if there's a problem, and based on my experience so far with the report button, it doesn't work very well.

Messages to non-friends are useful in trying to set up MP games with strangers, working on projects on fan creations, asking people if they have links to certain things and such without wanting to become their friends, etc.

I understand if you don't find the utility useful, but for others with different active interests, it can be a drag to have to add everyone as a friend. Amazon patents stuff like 1-click shopping for a reason: the more hoops you need to get through and blind friend requests you need to accept, the more of a barrier exists. 

As for your other point, yeah - there are times I think when PMing a moderator might be prudent in a way that report wouldn't be. Hopefully they roll that back after people readjust to the idea of reporting instead of PMing mods.

Modifié par PKchu, 10 juin 2013 - 08:35 .


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Wouldn't this mean mods will get spammed with friend requests?

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legion999 wrote...

Wouldn't this mean mods will get spammed with friend requests?


Perhaps in the short term.  I doubt the new mods accounts will accept them, but I have no specific info on that.


EDIT:  I should probably add that, while I am happy to accept friend requests, you may find that I will be referring people to the reporting tool more, now that it is fixed.

Modifié par RaenImrahl, 10 juin 2013 - 08:37 .


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Oh Raen, ;(

My heart

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Hey Raen um I don't think you wanna go into the MP forums ....

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PKchu wrote...

RaenImrahl wrote...

.. from what I understand, there's also a desire to limit the amount of PM spam that gets sent too and fro.  So, yes, it is an attempt to get people to discuss things in the open forums rather than just via PM.  Of course, you can still send people a friends request.

When you mean PM spam, are you talking about a problem caused by spam/phishing bots or just the sheer amount of user to user PMs?


From my perspective, I would say the former.  However, there have been times when I get complains from one user because of the abusive messages sent by another-- users will make several alternate accounts to get around the "block user" function... so it will be nice to see less of that with the new friend-to-friend PM situation.

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Thanks for answering my question.

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Dextro Milk

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Cricketer15 wrote...

Hey Raen um I don't think you wanna go into the MP forums ....

Yikes...

Now that MP forum is like, temp shut-down worthy... :unsure:

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Battlebloodmage wrote...

Are they employees of Bioware?


Not my place to say.  But I think it likely that different people may use those accounts at different times, as is common on other forums/websites.  They are utility accounts.  Hence, the rest of use should not expect a lot of accepted "friends" requests out of them.  This also might better explain the shift in emphasis from sending PMs to mods back to the reporting tool, now that the latter is being fixed.

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The ME3 MP forum got...not good, so I'll post my opinions on this here.

This seems like a strange thing to force on us without the option to turn off. I get a lot of messages about Mass Effect 3's game mechanics from people who are not on my friends list that either saw my signature or else had another BSNer tell them that I'm probably the person they should ask about it.

Unfortunately this new rule is going to really hurt being able to do that kind of thing.

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Wow, I just look at the Multiplayers board, and it was a spam heaven. If you report a thread, could you report the entire state of the board as well if the thread is part of the whole board spam? 

Modifié par Battlebloodmage, 10 juin 2013 - 08:48 .


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Massive Ban incoming for big part of the MP crew.

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They should give the MP board some bread and salt, to calm their nerves.

Heh.

Modifié par legion999, 10 juin 2013 - 08:49 .


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RaenImrahl wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Are they employees of Bioware?


Not my place to say.  But I think it likely that different people may use those accounts at different times, as is common on other forums/websites.  They are utility accounts.  Hence, the rest of use should not expect a lot of accepted "friends" requests out of them.  This also might better explain the shift in emphasis from sending PMs to mods back to the reporting tool, now that the latter is being fixed.

Thanks. I was only ask because the mod names sound very generic, so I thought they could just be random employees from Bioware who look over the board from time to time. I guess it doesn't matter as long as there are more enforcers on the forum. 

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Gotta say that I am not a fan of this new rule. If someone was getting spammed with PMs or harrassed, there's a "block user" function already to address such an issue, yes?

I get PMs quite often from people that aren't my friends and that, frankly, I am unlikely to interact with again in the long-term... I'd rather not have to accept their friend request just to answer a simple question of theirs, and then have more clutter in my newsfeed.

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Cyonan wrote...

The ME3 MP forum got...not good, so I'll post my opinions on this here.

This seems like a strange thing to force on us without the option to turn off. I get a lot of messages about Mass Effect 3's game mechanics from people who are not on my friends list that either saw my signature or else had another BSNer tell them that I'm probably the person they should ask about it.

Unfortunately this new rule is going to really hurt being able to do that kind of thing.


Not only that, we won't be able to PM devs or some other staff in a special situation.

I think this change will actually backfire for the community increasing the flood on all subforums and will make people being less closer than before.

I use to get messages from people who is not on my friendlist as well, now they won't be able unless they friend me.

it's a long process that is actually quite annoying to follow.


What i don't know is if they couldn't block the PMs only to mods, because that would be fine i think, but not among users.

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I think the MP forum is voicing their opinions on this, or maybe they are having a petition. Not sure.