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[Azul]

So how do we get challenge points unstuck in ME3 MP, since we were instructed to PM certain mods directly?

[Ninja Stan]

voteDC wrote...

voteDC wrote...
I would like to know where all these new moderators are going to be based.

The xbox.com forum suffers from that most of its moderators are based in North America, this means that when they aren't available the 'report to response' times go up massively. It isn't uncommon for waits of 12 hours to occur for the most foul of language posted on the European boards.

So given this is a global site, are any of these new 'official' moderators going to be based in the EU for example. If not we could end up with reports unseen for a stupid amount of time.

Any chance of a response to this. I would PM but, you know.

I know people outside of North America don't mean much to Bioware but it would be nice to know we Europeans aren't going to have to wait until Canada and the USA are awake for reports to be looked at.

It's not that BioWare doesn't care about fans outside North America. It's the difficulty in finding Moderators from outside those time zones. As Raen said, I believe the new BioWareMod0#s will be able to provide 24-hour coverage, and the REPORT feature will allow even us NA-based Mods to deal with issues quickly.

Heck, the BioWare community has been going without effective 24-hour Moderator coverage since late 2001, and it's only imploded a handful of times. Besides, I'm usually up late and log in on weekends. And few, if any, people were looking at the REPORTs before, so regardless of where the BioWareMods are based, we'll have more coverage than before!

[Ninja Stan]

Angrywolves wrote...

Educate us then oh ninja one. Satisfy our curiosity. Clarice Starling would like to hear it I was going to quote Silence of the Lambs but thought you might take offense.
It's simple. People who don't want pms should be able to block all pms. Yes people should use so called report features. However, people who want to protest a ban or the closing of a thread or some other action by a mod they feel is unfair should have the right to pm that mod and protest. shrugs. O f course some sites have supermods, site admins who can overrule a mod who gas made a mistake,gone too far, been too punative in punishment. Something tells me stan wouldn't like being overruled. Grins.
Ultimately I don't care . I care about DAI and other rpgs I might buy and not in socializing.

Emphasis mine.

Then this new system should hardly affect you at all, Angrywolves, and you needn't worry about it. If you do have an issue with a Moderator in the future, send me a friend request and you can talk to me about it. How's that?

[Ninja Stan]

Azoole wrote...

So how do we get challenge points unstuck in ME3 MP, since we were instructed to PM certain mods directly?

Who were you asked to PM?

[devSin]

Ninja Stan wrote...

Playing BioWare games is not a prerequisite to become a Moderator. BioModerator0#s may have BSN accounts, but they aren't talking. I heard from a friend of a friend of a former friend that they're a crack team of professionals professionally professioned to moderate forums (as a profession) and that they give up their true names when they sign up. Rumour has it that they are overseen by a mysterious figure known only as BioWareMod00!

Are you saying that the people who log into the BioWareMod0# accounts never interact here using any other official account?

The "games" bit was intended only as an example for why somebody who logs into one of those accounts may have another BSN account without ever actually participating at this site.

Ninja Stan wrote...

Then this new system should hardly affect you at all, Angrywolves, and you needn't worry about it. If you do have an issue with a Moderator in the future, send me a friend request and you can talk to me about it. How's that?

What if you're not friends? You shouldn't have to maintain some arbitrary, meaningless whitelist in order to have an occasional private conversation with somebody who you feel it's appropriate to contact.

Is this a "friend" list or is it a "I have no idea who you are but on the off chance you ever have something to say to me I'd at least be willing to read it" list?

[Ninja Stan]

devSin wrote...
Are you saying that the people who log into the BioWareMod0# accounts never interact here using any other official account?

The "games" bit was intended only as an example for why somebody who logs into one of those accounts may have another BSN account without ever actually participating at this site.

I don't even know if RaenImfahl interacts here using any other official account! And now you want me to infiltrate the secret headquarters of the BioWareMod compound? It's got attack badgers guarding the main gate, for PEte's sake!

]What if you're not friends? You shouldn't have to maintain some arbitrary, meaningless whitelist in order to have an occasional private conversation with somebody who you feel it's appropriate to contact.

Is this a "friend" list or is it a "I have no idea who you are but on the off chance you ever have something to say to me I'd at least be willing to read it" list?

Considering I don't use the BSN as a social network, it really doesn't matter whether it's a "friends" list or a "contact me" list, does it? Only a handful of folks from the BSN are known to me outside of BSN. If people want to get a hold of me, I'm saying they can. If they want to be friends, well, first, they're going to have to stop violating the Site Rules and forcing me to ban them. Then they must pass Stan's Gauntlet of Friendship. Only then can they join the queue for the in-person interviews.

[Azul]

Ninja Stan wrote...

Azoole wrote...

So how do we get challenge points unstuck in ME3 MP, since we were instructed to PM certain mods directly?

Who were you asked to PM?

Bryan Johnson made a thread about it on ME3 MP, asking for us to PM him for stuck challenges.  I would put a link in this post but I don't know how.  The thread is always one of the top threads in the ME3 MP forums.

Edit:  Here is link.
Common Issues (Online Pass/Commendation Pack/Stuck Challenges) Updated March 19

Modifié par Azoole, 11 juin 2013 - 04:06 .

[devSin]

Ninja Stan wrote...

I don't even know if RaenImfahl interacts here using any other official account! And now you want me to infiltrate the secret headquarters of the BioWareMod compound?

No, I'm asking you to clarify your statement, please.

These aren't accounts that somebody like Chris Priestly or Allan Schumacher or any other BioWare employee who regularly interacts here can (or would) log into to do anonymous moderation?

That really is the only thing I was asking. (I specifically used "official" as an attempt to denote accounts that have the BioWare tag—I'm assuming these are BioWare employees on the other side of these generic named accounts, though I guess maybe I shouldn't have done so.)

Modifié par devSin, 11 juin 2013 - 04:17 .

[Pordis Shepard]

I glanced through all the messages and I didn't see this mentioned explicity. Sorry if I missed it.

I have 2 potential problems with this. Neither is huge, but somewhat awkward to work around with wall comments or friending someone.

First, for ppl with a project. Strangers often send PMs asking specific questions. Or because I used to post regularly in an me2 forum which is no longer very active, ppl would pm me specific questions. I encouraged this in the forum even, but I really don't want to try to have these convos on my wall nor do I want to FR ppl for short exchanges and then defriend after.

Second, I will often send a pm along with a FR if I really haven't exchanged messages in forums with ppl, but they seem interesting. I will explain who I am and why I sent the FR, since they may not recall seeing me before. Again... comment walls might be used---if they aren't private, but I don't necessarily want to put all that info about myself on someone's public comment wall for all to see either.

I see these two issues as potential problems. I hope the devs will consider the impact of this on these situations and come up with some solution.

[Ninja Stan]

devSin wrote...
No, I'm asking you to clarify your statement, please.

These aren't accounts that somebody like Chris Priestly or Allan Schumacher or any other BioWare employee who regularly interacts here can (or would) log into to do anonymous moderation?

That really is the only thing I was asking. (I specifically used "official" as an attempt to denote accounts that have the BioWare tag—I'm assuming these are BioWare employees on the other side of these generic named accounts, though I guess maybe I shouldn't have done so.)

While I don't know the direct answer to the question, I don't believe this to be the case. If Chris Priestly wanted to moderate a thread, he'd just log in as himself. Same with Allan Schumacher or John Epler. I don't believe the BioWareMod accounts are open-ended to allow any BioWare employee to use whenever it pleases them. As far as I know, actual BioWare employees will use accounts that use their own names.

[RedJohn]

Wait, so the new moderators are bots?

[Ninja Stan]

Pordis Shepard wrote...

I glanced through all the messages and I didn't see this mentioned explicity. Sorry if I missed it.

I have 2 potential problems with this. Neither is huge, but somewhat awkward to work around with wall comments or friending someone.

First, for ppl with a project. Strangers often send PMs asking specific questions. Or because I used to post regularly in an me2 forum which is no longer very active, ppl would pm me specific questions. I encouraged this in the forum even, but I really don't want to try to have these convos on my wall nor do I want to FR ppl for short exchanges and then defriend after.

Second, I will often send a pm along with a FR if I really haven't exchanged messages in forums with ppl, but they seem interesting. I will explain who I am and why I sent the FR, since they may not recall seeing me before. Again... comment walls might be used---if they aren't private, but I don't necessarily want to put all that info about myself on someone's public comment wall for all to see either.

I see these two issues as potential problems. I hope the devs will consider the impact of this on these situations and come up with some solution.

Why not set up a Discussion Group for your project, and anyone who wishes to ask questions can join the Group and create Discussion topics about it? No friending required. That is one potential solution to your first issue.

As for the second, I guess we'll all be figuring it out as we go.

[Ninja Stan]

RedJohn wrote...

Wait, so the new moderators are bots?

Read my and RaenImrahl's responses in this thread, RedJohn. If you have further questions after that, please ask them. I'll wait.

[Battlebloodmage]

If it's just short questions, I'm curious as to why people can't just use their wall.

[Ninja Stan]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Yeah, I think he's avoiding the question.

Yep. I must be.

Not without reason--if they DID have alts, people would likely try to find them. But it looks like the question's being evaded, anyway.

Yep, you're absolutely r--oh wait, I've just been waiting for the devSin's actual question to be asked more clearly. See my response, above.

[devSin]

Ninja Stan wrote...

While I don't know the direct answer to the question, I don't believe this to be the case. If Chris Priestly wanted to moderate a thread, he'd just log in as himself. Same with Allan Schumacher or John Epler. I don't believe the BioWareMod accounts are open-ended to allow any BioWare employee to use whenever it pleases them. As far as I know, actual BioWare employees will use accounts that use their own names.

Thanks for the response.

I know when I first saw a thread locked by one of these phantom moderators the other day, my initial thought was that it was simply an attempt at anonymity (since Chris has been running around saying how he didn't want to moderate anymore, to try to improve his ability to interact with the posters here), which is what made me suggest the possibility.

Modifié par devSin, 11 juin 2013 - 04:38 .

[Pordis Shepard]

Ninja Stan wrote...
Why not set up a Discussion Group for your project, and anyone who wishes to ask questions can join the Group and create Discussion topics about it? No friending required. That is one potential solution to your first issue.

That seems a very reasonable solution. Thanks.  :-)

[Ninja Stan]

As Raen said, it means less work for us existing Moderators, which means we can spend more time as community members.

And really, if Chris says "I don't want to moderate anymore," how does it make sense for him to log into an anonymous account designed to do nothing but moderate, just to moderate?

[RaenImrahl]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Yeah, I think he's avoiding the question.

Not without reason--if they DID have alts, people would likely try to find them. But it looks like the question's being evaded, anyway.

devSIN is implying that known, dare i say prominent, members of the BioWare community might use these new BioWareMod0# accounts to moderate without risking some sort of negative feedback from the community writ-large.  This is *not* the case, as far as I am aware.  These new moderator accounts are for new moderators to come in an assist with the BSN.  Who specifically these people are and what games they play, I don't know.  Moreover, it's unimportant... they will be working under the same guidelines as anyone else who moderates.

[Ninja Stan]

Pordis Shepard wrote...

Ninja Stan wrote...
Why not set up a Discussion Group for your project, and anyone who wishes to ask questions can join the Group and create Discussion topics about it? No friending required. That is one potential solution to your first issue.

That seems a very reasonable solution. Thanks.  :-)

Battlebloodmage posted another possible solution.

[RaenImrahl]

devSin wrote...

I know when I first saw a thread locked by one of these phantom moderators the other day, my initial thought was that it was simply an attempt at anonymity (since Chris has been running around saying how he didn't want to moderate anymore, to try to improve his ability to interact with the posters here), which is what made me suggest the possibility.

A *very* astute observation!  But the solution for Chris (and the rest of us) is not one of anonymity, but of *time*.  These new accounts will allow the rest of us to be moderators in the best sense... interacting with users and guiding discussion.

EDIT:  Adding... this thread is a good example.  If Stan and I had to "run around" the forums right now, locking threads and responding to user reports, we wouldn't have time to be here talking to all of you!

Modifié par RaenImrahl, 11 juin 2013 - 04:46 .

[devSin]

Ninja Stan wrote...

And really, if Chris says "I don't want to moderate anymore," how does it make sense for him to log into an anonymous account designed to do nothing but moderate, just to moderate?

Note the qualifer I specifically made sure to include. He said he would be less active so that people would stop thinking about him in the context of banning users and locking threads, not that he just wants the place to descend into anarchy.

RaenImrahl wrote...

A *very* astute observation!  But the solution for Chris (and the rest of us) is not one of anonymity, but of *time*.  These new accounts will allow the rest of us to be moderators in the best sense... interacting with users and guiding discussion.

All that free time, you'd think you could just successfully moderate the PM feature, then, instead of hobbling it...

Modifié par devSin, 11 juin 2013 - 04:50 .

[Ninja Stan]

EntropicAngel wrote...

I'm sorry, Stan. Clearly I was wrong. Didn't mean to offend you.

No offense taken. If you can admit it when you're mistaken, and can take a snarky joke now and again, we're cool.