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frankf43 wrote...

Was the Rock like creature that we saw in the trailer actually Shale or was that something else that ING got wrong in their break down of the trailer?


You mean the one after the portal opened? Probably a redesign of a Pride Demon.

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Ultimashade wrote...

frankf43 wrote...

Was the Rock like creature that we saw in the trailer actually Shale or was that something else that ING got wrong in their break down of the trailer?


You mean the one after the portal opened? Probably a redesign of a Pride Demon.


Ok right so they got that wrong as well then. The two guys doing it didn't seem to know a whole lot about the DA series.

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frankf43 wrote...

Ultimashade wrote...

frankf43 wrote...

Was the Rock like creature that we saw in the trailer actually Shale or was that something else that ING got wrong in their break down of the trailer?


You mean the one after the portal opened? Probably a redesign of a Pride Demon.


Ok right so they got that wrong as well then. The two guys doing it didn't seem to know a whole lot about the DA series.


It seems a bit small to be a Pride Demon, however, so I may be mistaken. However, it's very easy to tell that the monster you see is in no way Shale. It's some kind of demon...maybe somebody else knows what it is?

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Wasn't it a profane or a rock wraith? That's what it looked like to me.

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Wasn't it a profane or a rock wraith? That's what it looked like to me.


Good call thinking about it that's what it did look like,

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Am I the only one that noticed that the Seekers just declared war on the Grey Wardens in this trailer?


I really hope they give us some more info on that. For me, it just doesn't make sense. The Wardens exist for only 1 purpose: Darkspawn. And they pretty much ignore everything else. Why would the Seekers want to wage war with them? I hope they have some good explaination for this.


(muttering darkly)  I can guess.  The Grey Wardens have for over a thousand years accepted mages into their ranks, and not only allowed but in some cases encouraged forbidden magics (like bloodmagic) and Grey Warden Mages tend to take a much more relaxed view towards bloodmagic than the Chantry would have normally tolerated.  Worse Grey Warden Mages up to this point have been completely beyond Chantry (and thus Seeker/Templar) control

It wouldn't suprise me in the slightest, if Lambert decided to end the Grey Warden Mage independance once and for all.  He seems the type.

-Polaris


Well still, the wardens aren't made of all Mages. There are warriors too. And if you destroy them, when another Blight come (well not everybody knows about Morrigan's ritual I believe, and I don't think Old god son is common knowledge in Thedas) they will all be doomed. Lambert can be crazy, but I don;t think he's powerful enough to pull the Seekers into this war. Also, I kinda thought Cole kill Lambert at the end of Asunder. But I guess we will have to wait for the next book at least.



Anders was a Grey Warden before. So revenge?

And all the other "allowing blood mages" stuff too.

There might be an issue in the organization and tolerating the Seekers:

The Wardens might want to stay neutral, but the Inquistiion threatens their mage members, which threatens their goal of eradicating the darkspawn.

Eventually, one group has to overstep it's boundaries, either by the Wardens interfering to protect a Grey Warden mage, or the Seekers getting overzealous and attacking Grey Warden mages in order to cause a rift like that. 

So, in summary.....GODDAMMIT ANDERS!

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IanPolaris wrote...

(muttering darkly) I can guess. The Grey Wardens have for over a thousand years accepted mages into their ranks, and not only allowed but in some cases encouraged forbidden magics (like bloodmagic) and Grey Warden Mages tend to take a much more relaxed view towards bloodmagic than the Chantry would have normally tolerated. Worse Grey Warden Mages up to this point have been completely beyond Chantry (and thus Seeker/Templar) control

It wouldn't suprise me in the slightest, if Lambert decided to end the Grey Warden Mage independance once and for all. He seems the type.

-Polaris


DAII's Avernus sidequest had the bandits you fight talking about how they were hired to fight the Wardens, which says someone had decided to begin moving against the Wardens.

So you might not be too far off, though I'm thinking it'll probably be Lambert's faction or some Templars/Seekers that are fanatical and split away from both Lambert's group and Cassandra's.

EDIT: There's also the issue of the First Warden supposedly having his eye on the throne of the Anderfels, a very religious country that looks to the Wardens for support. Can't imagine the Chantry would be too pleased about a Warden taking the crown (again).

As I recall, the Chantry was pretty pissed about the whole "Wardens and politics" thing.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 11 juin 2013 - 08:22 .


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They may bear certain similarities to already existing creatures such as the Profane and Ash Wraith but, personally, I hope these are different monsters altogether. Someone early suggested they could be creatures from the Black City and I find that appropriately scary.

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Modifié par MisterJB, 11 juin 2013 - 08:21 .


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They're probably the new types of Demons we've been told were made. Fear, Despair, etc., all being subsets of the already existing hierarchy.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 11 juin 2013 - 08:26 .


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Oh yeah, that is the Ash Wraith's vertical mouth, huh? Good call. The profane-ish creature looks like it could be a hybrid with one half of its body being something else. Maybe these are more advanced demons of hybridized emotions (one step closer to a full gamut of emotions that a soul has) that indeed are monsters from the Black City. Could be neat.

Top one looks like some of those statues you see in the Fade, I think.

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Your guess is as good as mine on the first guy. Some kind of elite Arcane Horror? A new type of darkspawn emissary?

The second monster looks like a human male that's been mutated in some way by red lyrium. Those look like red lyrium shards growing out of his body.

My bet on the third guy is a hunger demon.

I wonder if they're showing us mooks or hinting at boss monsters in DA3.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 11 juin 2013 - 08:30 .


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"blurring the line" was the interviewers phrase.  Mr Flynn actually seemed quite keen to distance himself from it really, though he seems to have an unfortunate aversion to actually disagreeing with anything the interviewer said.  But he placed it quite firmly in the "something we might do in the future" box, while saying that the empasis was on the single player story.

edit:  And "actiony combat" was just part of the spiel about finding a middle ground between DA:O and DA2.  Though I don't know where he got the idea that DA2 has better animations.


My take away was basically the same as yours. A "balancing" between the two games means some degree of regression from the  "actiony" style of DA2, which would be good.

My fear though is Bioware trying to be all things to all people, per EA's insistence. It's great to have more fans, but only through superior quality; not including features of all genres that will produce an unfocused and ill-defined product. I'm looking at actiony multiplayer here...

Modifié par Olmert, 11 juin 2013 - 08:33 .


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I think the first one is a despair demon. That hair falls right over his eyes!

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I don't know about you guys, but the new demons look much more scary, I'm gonna be frightened to fight then now.

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What I really hope is that they actually "focus on single player story" like Aaryn said in his interview. To be completely honest, Story and Characters are the reasons why I love BioWare games in the first place. Hell, I'd rather play BG or KOTOR for the ten thousand time despite their aged graphic than playing DA 2.

Btw, after watching the trailer for god knows how many times, I kinda doubt it was the Seekers that breaking in Warden's castle.We didn't see any Seekers actually run through the gate, and the scene with Cass leading the fight looks different than the break in scene. So I think it's more of a tricky cut than an actual fight scene. Gotta wait for more info still though

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Daniel Glaber wrote...

I don't know about you guys, but the new demons look much more scary, I'm gonna be frightened to fight then now.


Yeah, they've got a fair amount of body horror to them now.  There are new demons, and maybe older demons have changed due to the crazy war happening in Thedas.  The war may be generating its own monsters in the Fade.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 11 juin 2013 - 09:09 .


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Zeldrik1389 wrote...

What I really hope is that they actually "focus on single player story" like Aaryn said in his interview. To be completely honest, Story and Characters are the reasons why I love BioWare games in the first place. Hell, I'd rather play BG or KOTOR for the ten thousand time despite their aged graphic than playing DA 2.

Btw, after watching the trailer for god knows how many times, I kinda doubt it was the Seekers that breaking in Warden's castle.We didn't see any Seekers actually run through the gate, and the scene with Cass leading the fight looks different than the break in scene. So I think it's more of a tricky cut than an actual fight scene. Gotta wait for more info still though


I was thinking at first it was the Qunari,  having to do with the rip in the sky, or Grey Wardens fighting amongst each other.  I can't wait to hear new info.  :o

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That last one looks like the love child of Jack skeleton and one of those Amnesia monsters! :lol:

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I have a hard time with the demons , they look a bit over the top .
They're really my least favorite part of the trailer , that bit looked like a fashion photoshoot in Hell.

Am I hallucinating on the second demon , the red one has a dress on?
Is red lyrium turning people into this?

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In regards to the OGB being the protagonist..I have to wonder... if the eluvian supposedly takes one to a world beyond the fade..who is to say that this portal leads to another dimension that follows the same rules as the dragon age world? Just food for thought. Time could pass differently in the two worlds.

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Hmm, I just had a horrible thought...Someone said something about the sword near Varric looking like the warden's sword....What if, big IF, they killed of Alistair and the Warden PC from DAO...??? He looked like he was at Weisshaupt. It is as plausible as anything else suggested.

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thats1evildude wrote...
The second monster looks like a human male that's been mutated in some way by red lyrium. Those look like red lyrium shards growing out of his body.

I think that is possible. Pay close attention to this picture.

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Right behind the man, you'll see the second creature. And further left of that same row, there is an humanoid figure with an arrow placing it in the "Tevinter" row meaning that the demon with crystal formations covering its body could be the result of Tevinter conducting human experiments with red lyrium. Also, it raises the possibility of Tevinter being, partially, behind the chaos.

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I don't think they 're part of Tevinter ,it seems there is four categories , and Mr who is smiling on the picture is hiding one.The one where the red lyrium creature is from.

There is Humans and demons .And " ..." and Tevinter.

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Wait a minute, was that a Grey Warden flag next to Varric..... Wow just simple beautiful graphics. So Morrigan makes her move.. Interesting. And what is Cassandra up to I wonder. I just can't wait for more infor on this. I think it high time I make sure I have the perfect save files whiles I wait for this game.

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Looks like the Xenomorph Queen has a magical cousin :lol:
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And I like it <3