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Hello
Signed up especially for this!

The trailer has massively excited me and I am wondering how I can satisfy myself with Skyrim until Autumn 2014...

A couple of thoughts:

Liking the idea of the potential to have a different background (I think that might be what the rings are about - hoping the hidden one is a Warden one, I loved being a warden! - but doubt it somehow) and to be able to stand by different factions. I think it will definitely increase the replayability factor which DA:O had (Have played it many, many times now!). Hawke didn't have the same appeal to me.

Morrigan's studded bodice on her dress is very similar to something Flemeth wore - possibly in DA2? Can't remember. I'm sure you know what I mean. I don't mind her look, I'm sure they can get the face to look a bit more natural when speaking.

In my main game, I did the dark ritual but in others I didn't - part of me thinks that to leave the OGB out entirely would leave many, many players wondering what happened to their/Alistair's/Loghain's kid. I think that with the appearance of Morrigan, we will also see something of the child, and that for players who did not do the dark ritual it will be handwaved in that Morrigan went to seduce Riordan instead and oh, hey, it worked (even though she said it wouldn't...)

New monsters/characters look great too.

No sign of Leiliana which I was surprised, although I guess they are not going to put everyone in the trailer.

I hope that there is something to give us a bit of closure on our previous characters - as I have already stated, I'm happy to have a new character but I do still have a soft spot for my Cousland! Having said that, I'm not sure how they will manage to do that because I know that I would be pretty annoyed if they sent my Warden down a path I know she would never have taken, dammit! I was a bit annoyed by her disappearance at the end of Awakenings! But hey, I'll get over it...

Anyway, very long post over!

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I was sorely disappointed there was no Ganders cameo in the teaser!  :innocent:

*edit* I bet the delay was soley so that they could rework the game to feature Ganders as the main protagonist.  :o

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Foolsfolly wrote...

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That's a hell of a tear in the Veil. I mean... goddamn that's a huge tear.

I can't imagine what did that.

Ok, I can.

1- Actual Factual Gods.
2- A Massacre So Horrible Thedas Has Never Seen Its Like.*
3- Something on the Other Side Opened It.
4- Payment.

Gods are easy to explain. It's a fantasy world of elves and dwarves. If there wasn't gods in a universe like that... then that's kinda weird.

We already know great violence can rip the Veil. We've seen it time and time again. And we just happen to have a trailer where every race and organization we've met in two games seems to be murdering one another. Give peace a chance, guys! Now Slender Man and Alien Queens are running around Thedas. Ain't no one got time for that.

If demons and the like really want to be in the mortal realm (why, by the way? Just to experience it? That seems a little unlikely, right? Besides demons tell us that's the only reason they want to be here. And they're known for being ugly and liars.) So exactly how much do they want to be here? Enough to rip the Veil through some horrible practice on their side? Is that even possible?

And finally payment. Payment in the fact that nothing in the universe is without cost. The DA games have shown that time and time again. Yet so many people have magic. And stone/liquid magic just happens to dot the land.

...so what was the price for all that? This is the least thought out possibility, I agree. But I still hold it could be the past arriving and asking for the check. Perhaps payment due for some Tavinter spell (sinking Arlathan). It could be the return of the elven gods (locked away in different realms by Fen'Harrel). Just the past coming back in a big big way.

*-This is impossible. If the history of Thedas teaches us anything it's that Thedas loves massacres. It's hard to out-kill Exhaulted Marches, genocides, and Blights. But you've got to respect their continued attempts at beating the high score.


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oooh! By the Way... that's my Screenshot  <_<

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 I have a lot of ideas about DA3 from the trailer, here they are in my trailer analysis 
If you want come check it out and disscuess your theores and more DA geekyness 

sincerly 
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Tiguaje wrote...

Foolsfolly wrote...

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That's a hell of a tear in the Veil. I mean... goddamn that's a huge tear.

I can't imagine what did that.

Ok, I can.

1- Actual Factual Gods.
2- A Massacre So Horrible Thedas Has Never Seen Its Like.*
3- Something on the Other Side Opened It.
4- Payment.

Gods are easy to explain. It's a fantasy world of elves and dwarves. If there wasn't gods in a universe like that... then that's kinda weird.

We already know great violence can rip the Veil. We've seen it time and time again. And we just happen to have a trailer where every race and organization we've met in two games seems to be murdering one another. Give peace a chance, guys! Now Slender Man and Alien Queens are running around Thedas. Ain't no one got time for that.

If demons and the like really want to be in the mortal realm (why, by the way? Just to experience it? That seems a little unlikely, right? Besides demons tell us that's the only reason they want to be here. And they're known for being ugly and liars.) So exactly how much do they want to be here? Enough to rip the Veil through some horrible practice on their side? Is that even possible?

And finally payment. Payment in the fact that nothing in the universe is without cost. The DA games have shown that time and time again. Yet so many people have magic. And stone/liquid magic just happens to dot the land.

...so what was the price for all that? This is the least thought out possibility, I agree. But I still hold it could be the past arriving and asking for the check. Perhaps payment due for some Tavinter spell (sinking Arlathan). It could be the return of the elven gods (locked away in different realms by Fen'Harrel). Just the past coming back in a big big way.

*-This is impossible. If the history of Thedas teaches us anything it's that Thedas loves massacres. It's hard to out-kill Exhaulted Marches, genocides, and Blights. But you've got to respect their continued attempts at beating the high score.


look closely...

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oooh! By the Way... that's my Screenshot  <_<



..interesting... what am I looking at here?

Sorry. I should have given credit. But it was from a few pages ago and I didn't feel like quoting the whole post and removing the images I didn't want to reference. Still, should have given credit.

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Part of the pillars of creation from the eagle nebula?

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Ser Bard wrote...

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It looks like a deer head with crazy antlers. Not Grey Warden related, which just makes things more confusing.


Ignoring the ocotpus, am I the only one seeing a demon head with a sharp nose and very pointy teeth?



It's a Lannister banner, 
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Honestly, looking good. Just... don't, seriously, don't do day 1 DLC, exclusives for pre-ordering and all that bull****, because people don't want to pre-oder (if they have a longer memory than your average lemming, that is).

BW needs to earn our trust with this fairly promising title.

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I have taken up the task of going round gaming sites telling everyone who thinks it's CGI that it's not. Bioware should be proud that people are making that mistake!

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If I can say one thing slightly negative about the trailer.

Varric.

I don't know why but I didn't get he was Varric all that well. I saw Bianca, and that's clearly Bianca. And I was like "VARRIC!" And then I saw the guy's face and I began to doubt it was Varric or not.

Now, that's going to happen. New engine and all that noise. But I thought Morrigan looked enough like Morrigan to be... well Morrigan. She looks different (very different) but I knew it was her at a glance.

Same with Cassandra who's gotten a much larger jawline and a different haircut. Still instantly recognizable (although I must wonder if the armor does that or not).

I don't know what it was about Varric's face... (the suit is clearly similar to his DA2 suit so it's the face) but I didn't get it was him at a glance. I doubted for a moment and then decided "Nah, that's him."

...

...not much help. I know. And at some point you gotta say "This is close looking enough."

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I've mentioned this elsewhere but, the armoured bodies at the start do not seem to be darkspawn, rather they appear to be burnt human bodies, wearing human armour the only 'darkspawny' thing appearing in the trailer seems to be the sword in the ground near Varric.

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Foolsfolly wrote...

Same with Cassandra who's gotten a much larger jawline and a different haircut. Still instantly recognizable (although I must wonder if the armor does that or not).

I don't know what it was about Varric's face... (the suit is clearly similar to his DA2 suit so it's the face) but I didn't get it was him at a glance. I doubted for a moment and then decided "Nah, that's him."


I find this really fascinating, because it was exactly the opposite for me. Although he looked different I instantly recognized Varric, and I even managed not to notice/recognize Bianca the first time. I'd have had no idea Cassandra in the trailer was supposed to be her if I hadn't already read she was in it before watching.

Now that I've seen more comparison pics the differences between DA2 Varric and trailer Varric have become more obvious to me, but I don't find them problematic. And I like Cassandra's new look.

And after watching Morrigan's scene a few more times my intial problems with her jaw seem to have vanished, mostly. It's really mostly her mouth while she's talking that makes her look a little funny.

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I just viewed the video for the first time today and I've not read this whole thread. The environments looked amazing and the special effects with the fade rip and the lighting and fireballs. I was not impressed with Morrigan and Cassandra in the new engine. Varric looked great. I'm disappointed in the fall 2014 release date. I can't help but feel people are losing interest in this game and not alot of excitment in the audience for the first look...the audience wasn't blown away. I guess some news is better than no news. I hope more information will be coming sooner rather than later. It's been disappointing for DA fans.

Ok, so who is going to start a 'who is the dead body in the bag thread?

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Tiguaje wrote...

Foolsfolly wrote...

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That's a hell of a tear in the Veil. I mean... goddamn that's a huge tear.

I can't imagine what did that.

Ok, I can.

1- Actual Factual Gods.
2- A Massacre So Horrible Thedas Has Never Seen Its Like.*
3- Something on the Other Side Opened It.
4- Payment.

Gods are easy to explain. It's a fantasy world of elves and dwarves. If there wasn't gods in a universe like that... then that's kinda weird.

We already know great violence can rip the Veil. We've seen it time and time again. And we just happen to have a trailer where every race and organization we've met in two games seems to be murdering one another. Give peace a chance, guys! Now Slender Man and Alien Queens are running around Thedas. Ain't no one got time for that.

If demons and the like really want to be in the mortal realm (why, by the way? Just to experience it? That seems a little unlikely, right? Besides demons tell us that's the only reason they want to be here. And they're known for being ugly and liars.) So exactly how much do they want to be here? Enough to rip the Veil through some horrible practice on their side? Is that even possible?

And finally payment. Payment in the fact that nothing in the universe is without cost. The DA games have shown that time and time again. Yet so many people have magic. And stone/liquid magic just happens to dot the land.

...so what was the price for all that? This is the least thought out possibility, I agree. But I still hold it could be the past arriving and asking for the check. Perhaps payment due for some Tavinter spell (sinking Arlathan). It could be the return of the elven gods (locked away in different realms by Fen'Harrel). Just the past coming back in a big big way.

*-This is impossible. If the history of Thedas teaches us anything it's that Thedas loves massacres. It's hard to out-kill Exhaulted Marches, genocides, and Blights. But you've got to respect their continued attempts at beating the high score.


look closely...

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oooh! By the Way... that's my Screenshot  <_<


Annnddd what am I looking at? 

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Green clouds.

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Varric looks... ruggedly handsome, if I do say so myself.

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Teasing bastards !!!! Cart wait looks epic

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In DA2, during the second act, it is said by the leader of the Grey Wardens that there are "pressing matters" to which the order must attend.
As we all know, whatever calls the attention of the wardens is always something earth-shattering, with the capability to define the fate of Thedas.
Therefore, these pressing matters must be a prelude to events to be shown in DA3:Inquisition and which certainly will figure largely on the upcoming game.

The second fact, which will be ominously present, is Morrigan's fate, her findings about the future -which she only hints at in Witch's Hunt- and her child, the purified Old God.
Flemmeth raised her with this one and exclusive mission: to give birth to an untainted dragon.

(And as everyone must have noticed by now, Morrigan's yellow eyes hunts at her being a dragon is anthropomorphic shape herself, just like her mother. Or Flemmeth could have bound the spirit of a dragon when she was young and transformed into one over time, who knows?)

If Morrigan has indeed given birth to an untainted Old God, this will concern the Wardens. They will want to protect the dragon from the taint, lest he will become a new archdemon.
Unless the child can maintain an anthropomorphic shape himself, taught perhaps by his mother.

The third fact are the blood mages' revolts in Kirwall, all spurred by "an outside group", according to Sister Nightingale, a.k.a. Leliana. Anders' act of terrorism could be linked to that. Maybe there was an infiltrator of these outside groups in the Mage Underground who convinced him to do it.

(And it would fit with Anders' behaviour. Since the beginning of DA2, he repeats he cannot have an affair with you because he willingly bonded with Justice to serve the mage's cause. He knows his life is forfeit, so he sees himself as a suitable candidate for a suicidal act.)

With that in mind, we also know through Leliana that "Divine Justinia takes the situation in Kirkwall very seriously" and through Alistair, we learn that "Orlais wants to reclaim their lost province." After the game ends, we learn that the mage situation is out of control.

We also hear Fenris comment Tevinter could be leading the outside group, but Leliana immediately dismisses the hypothesis, claiming "there's no proof of that".

Therefore, the mage problem is associated with attempts from either Tevinter or Orlais to destabilize Ferelden, that is, destabilize Alistair's rule and place a sovereign on the throne who will bend to the interests of one of these nations. Alistair may end up hunting mages down or anyone associated to them, believing they are trying to raise an insurrection and threaten his kingdom.

The Seekers may very well be acting under his orders to do so: investigate mages and former templars, hunt down the insurgents responsible for stirring trouble and discover the root of these movements.

Another intriguing fact is how people pointed out for the apparent war Seekers x Wardens. If the Wardens are protecting a dragon (Morrigan's child), no doubt Alistair would see that as a threat to Thedas: the possible coming of a new Blight.

And we see in the trailer how the sky was torn asunder by a green magic and demons came from it, including a dragon  (which was not tainted, as those who watched closely must have noticed). This is another display of the mages' power, maybe the ones being agitated by the foreign insurgents that the Seekers hunt.

After that display, Alistair might feel compelled to do something about it to avoid the Free Marches becoming a magocracy, just like Tevinter is, and realize Ferelden has to, beyond hunt down mages, bring down that dragon (possibly Morrigan's child or not) and go to war with Tevinter.

(The reason for killing the dragon lies in Thedas' own history: it was the belief in the Old Gods that led Tevinter mages to go out of control and not only enslave the elves, but also try to find the Maker's place, resulting in the First Blight and the first Archdemon. Alistair might fear the uncontrolled mages seek the purified newborn Old God to repeat history, thus gaining power to implement a magocracy in Ferelden).

And what about Orlais? Well, maybe Orlais wnats to reconquer Ferelden because, as a grand nation, it has already realized Tevinter influence is spreading throughout the country and they have to stop it before they have a second Tevinter right under their nose.

(Remeber the letters traded by King Cailan and the Empress from Orlais? It's in the DA origins DLC, Return to Ostagar. Maybe the empress was trying to unify both countries in order to avoid a future war and maybe ensure protection against Tevinter influence.).

The fourth fact is the Qunari threat. The Qunari almost took power in Kirkwall. During a conversation with Fenris in Act 3, we learn that the Qunari are building their strengh to invade Tevinter and bring down the empire, a plan that is going well. He says even the Archon (A Tevinter important politician) failed to get support from other nations to protect the country in case there was a Qunari invasion.

It may also be possible that they won't stop in Tevinter and will invade either Orlais or Ferelden. Remember, they believe it is their mission to bring their truth to other "weak people". They are expansionists, and it's in that sense that they might appear in DA 3.

Taking that into account, the armies of both Ferelden and Orlais might have to join forces to kick either the Tevinter (if they win against the Qunari) or the Qunari out of the Free Marches.

It is also safe to suppose the elves would tend to favour the Qunari, since they see it as a way to break free from human oppression (remember, the elves helped the Qunari attack Kirkawall in DA2, act 2).


Finally, as to what the 'pressing matters' really are, we can speculate it MAY have something to do with either of these factors.These are all speculations from a fan and they don't cover every loose ends left by the 2 previous games, but four of the most important ones. But whatever they are, they will lead us to the center of the events that will shape Thedas's future on DA 3.

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I loved the trailer, my only wish is it had been a bit longer and given us more to see.

I'm fine with the minor changes to peoples faces (pretty happy with Varric's actually. He looked like my brother to the point of distraction before)

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* New dragon model. Is it simply the new model for high dragons, or could it be Flemeth (the horns looks about right), or a fade dragon, or a new archdemon?

* It also looks like someone/ something is standing behind Morrigan. It's pretty blurry, so it might be nothing, but perhaps it is the Old god baby?

I think that Dragon IS the old god baby.
The Arch Demon that Morrigan Absorbed was a dragon god of Beauty I think. 
Plus, a Dragon coming out of the fade? Isn't that where Morrigan went when she ran away? I can't remember. 
But, yeah, I think that dragon is the speculated Old God Baby.

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Well; dragons seem to be pretty important.

Though its interesting that Dragons are coming from the fade; makes me wonder if Dragons are actually natural to Thedas.

The Inquisition seems to have a lot to do with Dragons, dragon helmet, dragon blade, did they start out as dragon hunters?

Or is "The Inquisition" the other party that made this all come about? Perhaps they wanted more dragons for some reason.

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Colday wrote...
Plus, a Dragon coming out of the fade? Isn't that where Morrigan went when she ran away? I can't remember. 
But, yeah, I think that dragon is the speculated Old God Baby.


Giving birth to a dragon sounds uncomfortable.

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iPoohCupCakes wrote...

Tiguaje wrote...

Foolsfolly wrote...

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That's a hell of a tear in the Veil. I mean... goddamn that's a huge tear.

I can't imagine what did that.

Ok, I can.

1- Actual Factual Gods.
2- A Massacre So Horrible Thedas Has Never Seen Its Like.*
3- Something on the Other Side Opened It.
4- Payment.

Gods are easy to explain. It's a fantasy world of elves and dwarves. If there wasn't gods in a universe like that... then that's kinda weird.

We already know great violence can rip the Veil. We've seen it time and time again. And we just happen to have a trailer where every race and organization we've met in two games seems to be murdering one another. Give peace a chance, guys! Now Slender Man and Alien Queens are running around Thedas. Ain't no one got time for that.

If demons and the like really want to be in the mortal realm (why, by the way? Just to experience it? That seems a little unlikely, right? Besides demons tell us that's the only reason they want to be here. And they're known for being ugly and liars.) So exactly how much do they want to be here? Enough to rip the Veil through some horrible practice on their side? Is that even possible?

And finally payment. Payment in the fact that nothing in the universe is without cost. The DA games have shown that time and time again. Yet so many people have magic. And stone/liquid magic just happens to dot the land.

...so what was the price for all that? This is the least thought out possibility, I agree. But I still hold it could be the past arriving and asking for the check. Perhaps payment due for some Tavinter spell (sinking Arlathan). It could be the return of the elven gods (locked away in different realms by Fen'Harrel). Just the past coming back in a big big way.

*-This is impossible. If the history of Thedas teaches us anything it's that Thedas loves massacres. It's hard to out-kill Exhaulted Marches, genocides, and Blights. But you've got to respect their continued attempts at beating the high score.


look closely...

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oooh! By the Way... that's my Screenshot  <_<


Annnddd what am I looking at? 


It DOES look like the face of a giant bat, now that I think about it. The lower pillar is the nose and the upper one his right (from our perspective) ear. There are even teeth and an eye visible.

New semi-confirmed plot from DAI: The maker is a giant space-bat.

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U know what? New Varric looks like Big Ben Dude from ME3 trailer.


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Big Ben Dude:
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This

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IanPolaris wrote...

Get fired up wrote...

So what do you people think of the new trailer?

Trailer here ->


I'm a little underwhemed to be honest.  If Bioware was seriously talking about a 2013 release not so long ago, and all we have is this.....I have to think something may have gone very badly wrong in production.  I am also not so sure I like some of the implications in the trailer, but it's too early to say anything definitative other than I'm getting a 'bad vibe'.

On the plus side (and it really is a plus side), at least Bioware seems to be taking the "it's done when it's done approach" although my final verdict will be coloured by the final product.

-Polaris


These people and their "bad vibes". SMH <_<

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