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[Mr.House]

David Gaider wrote...

Filament wrote...
So is it pre-rendered or is it frostbite? Enough of these shenanigans.

It's in-game assets and in-engine. Generally, when people refer to a "CGI trailer", they mean something that was created by an animation studio-- usually not on a game engine at all (such as stuff Blur makes). Technically it's all CGI.

If that seems like a big jump in fidelity... well, it is. New engines will do that.

I suggest remaining skeptical until you see gameplay footage. Healthier, I imagine.

Thanks ffor the answer Gaider :happy:

[Homebound]

David Gaider wrote...

Filament wrote...
So is it pre-rendered or is it frostbite? Enough of these shenanigans.

It's in-game assets and in-engine. Generally, when people refer to a "CGI trailer", they mean something that was created by an animation studio-- usually not on a game engine at all (such as stuff Blur makes). Technically it's all CGI.

If that seems like a big jump in fidelity... well, it is. New engines will do that.

I suggest remaining skeptical until you see gameplay footage. Healthier, I imagine.

i gotta ask. Qunari romance? Yay or nay?

[IceHawk-181]

Yes, because E3 was not filled with other games using "engine footage" that was not "game-play" footage...

And it is absolutely not like tagging something as "engine footage" is fundamentally different than "game-play" footage.

[karushna5]

Ah that clears up a few things. Great! Any time we may see game footage? Or hear new information. The trailer is nice, but it feels more like a drop of water when you are thirsty, appreciated but frustrating.

[MilaBanilla]

Homebound wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Filament wrote...
So is it pre-rendered or is it frostbite? Enough of these shenanigans.

It's in-game assets and in-engine. Generally, when people refer to a "CGI trailer", they mean something that was created by an animation studio-- usually not on a game engine at all (such as stuff Blur makes). Technically it's all CGI.

If that seems like a big jump in fidelity... well, it is. New engines will do that.

I suggest remaining skeptical until you see gameplay footage. Healthier, I imagine.

i gotta ask. Qunari romance? Yay or nay?

You can flirt all you want, but you won't be tapping those horns anytime soon.
They wouldn't even understand what flirting is anyways. Sten didn't 

[CELL55]

Nine Hells! That was in-game footage?! Of Dragon Age?! 

+1 to DAI interest

But Varric isn't showing Chest Hair?

-1 to DAI Interest 


Morrigan Dissaproves? 

[Northern Sun]

TK514 wrote...

Izana wrote...

Am I the only one that noticed that the Seekers just declared war on the Grey Wardens in this trailer?

The trailer was certainly cut to suggest that.

I just noticed this when I decided to repeatedly pause the video and saw that the characters running from the smashed grate were wearing DA2's Warden Armor. I imagine they're not actually fighting in-game though, they just cut it that way to suggest it. Some human faction is obviously at odds with the Wardens though.

Something else I noticed was the big map right before the gate scene had the title "Empire of Orlais" with model tents and catapults to represent battlefield placement. Hard to say if it's the same battle or the Orlesian Civil War, but it looks like Cassandra hasn't lost her love of stabbing paper.

[Steppenwolf]

CELL55 wrote...

Nine Hells! That was in-game footage?! Of Dragon Age?! 

No. Read Gaider's post. It was just rendered footage made using the Frostbite 3 engine. When the trailer says "Actual Game Footage" at the beginning it's essentially a blatant lie.

[Rascal1981]

well, if the trailer is anything to go on...Morrigan's been hiding in Orlais a while.
And the flag looked more like a lion or griffon than a flower, but the flames/lighting make it hard to identify. Cassandra has a scar, did she always have that??? and the castle siege and the attacking seekers army look like two different cutscenes. I'm excited either way, because I want to see where the story goes from the Kirkwall incident. and were the bodies on the ground hurlocks or just badly burned corpses???? I'd have to watch it frame for frame to catch everything and the video quality on youtube isn't great for this video.

[LinksOcarina]

BasilKarlo wrote...

CELL55 wrote...

Nine Hells! That was in-game footage?! Of Dragon Age?! 

No. Read Gaider's post. It was just rendered footage made using the Frostbite 3 engine. When the trailer says "Actual Game Footage" at the beginning it's essentially a blatant lie.

Well, its half-truth if really. I would bet that some of those same scenes will be in Inquisition anyway. 

[Stella-Arc]

Wait...so the teaser we saw doesn't exist in the game? In other words, a "CGI-like" hype tease? I'm confused...

Modifié par Stella-Arc, 11 juin 2013 - 05:00 .

[Steppenwolf]

LinksOcarina wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

CELL55 wrote...

Nine Hells! That was in-game footage?! Of Dragon Age?! 

No. Read Gaider's post. It was just rendered footage made using the Frostbite 3 engine. When the trailer says "Actual Game Footage" at the beginning it's essentially a blatant lie.

Well, its half-truth if really. I would bet that some of those same scenes will be in Inquisition anyway. 

If we get some of those scenes, they will either be pre-rendered like they are now or they will be redone using actual in-game graphics. I doubt BioWare will go the JRPG route and cut to much prettier pre-rendered scenes though.

[LinksOcarina]

BasilKarlo wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

CELL55 wrote...

Nine Hells! That was in-game footage?! Of Dragon Age?! 

No. Read Gaider's post. It was just rendered footage made using the Frostbite 3 engine. When the trailer says "Actual Game Footage" at the beginning it's essentially a blatant lie.

Well, its half-truth if really. I would bet that some of those same scenes will be in Inquisition anyway. 

If we get some of those scenes, they will either be pre-rendered like they are now or they will be redone using actual in-game graphics. I doubt BioWare will go the JRPG route and cut to much prettier pre-rendered scenes though.

Or, they will look the same anyway since thats using Frostbite 3 to make it.

[Steppenwolf]

EntropicAngel wrote...

And "game footage" doesn't actually mean you're going to see it in-game. iIt simply refers to the fact that it's a real-time engine render.

So, not a lie at all.

What consumer would ever agree with that? That's PR nonsense of the worst kind. If a trailer claims to be actual game footage then it had better be footage of the actual game. Otherwise it's false advertising.

Stella-Arc wrote...

Wait...so the teaser we saw doesn't exist in the game? In other words, a "CGI-like" hype tease? I'm confused...

The Frostbite 3 engine was used to make a Blur-style CGI trailer. That trailer is not indicitive of the actual game's graphics. This tactic is being used by a lot of developers to make next-gen titles look more impressive than they currently are. Developers are new to the next-gen consoles and thus the games they're showing off aren't that much more impressive than AAA current-gen titles. Using the engine to render these trailers is basically a way to trick consumers.

[Medhia Nox]

I'm actually more hopeful than I was prior to the video.

I'm glad this seems like it won't be "just" the Mage/Templar war - so very glad it hurts.

While games have promised big possibilities in the past - would Bioware really allow us to destroy Thedas (in its current state) like the last comment in the video suggests? I'll never take that route if it's just "for the evil lulz" - but I would find it compelling if destroying the world was actually the "best possible ending".

[TsaiMeLemoni]

I don't care if it's pre-rendered or using in-game graphics, that trailer has me stoked.

[Peer of the Empire]

Looks like Frostbite to me

[Steppenwolf]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Filament wrote...

Wut. So now it's pre-rendered using the frostbite engine? How many ways can we think of to obfuscate such a simple statement, god. Will my sufficiently powerful computer render said actions in real time using the game engine or not? I don't see how this question can possibly be obfuscated further.

No, no. Ignore them. It's actually rendered in real time with the engine. Not pre-rendered.

Basically like playing a cutscene. The one in DA ][ where Flemeth saves Hawke at the beginning, say.

Except that's not accurate at all. If that were the case then they would be telling us it was in-game footage, not in-engine footage. Scenes like the ones you're referring to are in-game cut scenes. Stuff like what we saw from Bioware and Quantic Dream and such today are in-engine, meaning not made in the game.

LinksOcarina wrote...

Or, they will look the same anyway since thats using Frostbite 3 to make it.

So you actually think the game will look as pretty as that trailer? At all times?

[b0j4ngles]

Well I'm just going to be totally honest here, it kind of turned me off. Now granted I've had a lot of worries about DA3 ever since DA2, but this trailer did nothing to alleviate them.

So they're going to have a potentially world ending conflict that will wrap up the trilogy with a bang? Ok, well they just did that with ME3 and we know how that turned out.

So they're bringing back Morrigan? Ok great she was an awesome character. I hope they realize that for many players her story arc is intimately tied to the Warden's and find some way to bring back the Warden too. But I kind of get the feeling that they will just bring her back for fan service and take story in some random direction that doesn't fit in with what we've previously seen from her. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if they try to bring back every character for a brief cameo like in ME3. Hopefully it doesn't feel forced.

I'm more disappointed by what I didn't see. No exotic locations. No new characters introduced. No new gameplay mechanics revealed.

When you compare it to the trailer for Witcher 3 it was total crap.

and also THE GAME

[LinksOcarina]

BasilKarlo wrote...

So you actually think the game will look as pretty as that trailer? At all times?

Who knows. Id say its possible.

Does it matter though?