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[lil yonce]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Considering it's been years, I'm wondering how the psych of the mages in Andoral's Reach have been impacted. They're probably not feeling too comfortable and are probably weakened.

Disillusioned by now, I would think. Many should be ready to parley. That is a good thing.

[Xilizhra]

Youth4Ever wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

The prologue isn't there in my version of the book, so I can't say. Ultimately, we don't know, but I seriously doubt your torture porn fantasy will come true.

Watching Fiona's ill-fated rebellion unravel is my porn. 

And the entire point is to make them give up and go back without bloodshed.

EDIT: Oh, yeah. And epilogue. Not prologue. Wrong book. 

Ah, yes. So it looks like I was right after all; the epilogue is just another chapter. Also, the rebellion won't unravel.

Finally, all blood necessary will be shed from any templar who doesn't surrender.

Disillusioned by now, I would think. Many should be ready to parley. That is a good thing.

Only if you assume that they're losing. Why would you?

Modifié par Xilizhra, 13 juin 2013 - 07:15 .

[BlueMagitek]

Hahaha, Xil you're such a laugh.

Anyway, can we go back to actually supporting the Templar instead of being distracted by the proletarians?

[Xilizhra]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Hahaha, Xil you're such a laugh.

Anyway, can we go back to actually supporting the Templar instead of being distracted by the proletarians?

You have no reason to exist without us.

[BlueMagitek]

And that's fine, there's no need for Grey Wardens if there are no Darkspawn and no need for Templar if there are mages.

[lil yonce]

I think its time:

[lil yonce]

Xilizhra wrote...

Ah, yes. So it looks like I was right after all; the epilogue is just another chapter.

Right about what? The epilogue is set in 9:40 Dragon.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Well, templars could still guard chantries and hunt demons.

[Xilizhra]

Youth4Ever wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Ah, yes. So it looks like I was right after all; the epilogue is just another chapter.

Right about what? The epilogue is set in 9:40 Dragon.

And? For that matter, do we even know if the templars marched right then? Lambert's dead, there was almost certainly going to be some organizational fallout from that.

[lil yonce]

And that means the mages are still at Andoral's Reach two years later.

[Xilizhra]

Youth4Ever wrote...

And that means the mages are still at Andoral's Reach two years later.

Meaning they've clearly found a sustainable food source, if indeed all of the mages are there. And we still don't know if the templars were actually able to attack them.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Xilizhra wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

@Hazegurl; A reality for many, I'm certain. Claimed by the elements and/or lost to starvation. Some will leave and make a deal with Justinia V when things become unbearable, the rest will fight the templars when they come-- many will die, and the survivors will scatter to... we don't know yet.

Elements? No need to worry about that, they can make fire. Starvation may or may not be an issue. And the templars... I think you greatly underestimate the power of a collective of mages all in one place. They could very well repel the templars. Especially if Lambert suddenly turns up dead before the march.

The same collective mages that were beaten by the Templars and thrown in their cells?
Although you are right about that fire, but what food can they conjure up? Like Youth4ever says, it's gonna be  a long winter for those mages.

Now they have a fortified position to defend, from a much longer range (which vastly favors the mages; hell, a fireball in the right spot in snowy mountains could trigger an avalanche and waste whole columns of templars). Food is harder, but I can't answer that because I don't know the details of the environment.

I doubt the mages outrange a trebuchet... And I also doubt the mages have the manpower to resist a prolonged siege. The mages would be able to sally forth and break the siege, if the besiegers hadn't been Templars, who would like nothing more than to engage them in open warfare...

[lil yonce]

^^Or it means more have showed up over time to bolster decaying numbers.

Modifié par Youth4Ever, 13 juin 2013 - 07:59 .

[Aolbain]

So, this became a flamewar after all. Sigh.
I am decently sure there was a mage supporter thread hereabout. Can't the mage supporters go there and have fun? We are busy oppressing here.

[Xilizhra]

Aolbain wrote...

So, this became a flamewar after all. Sigh.
I am decently sure there was a mage supporter thread hereabout. Can't the mage supporters go there and have fun? We are busy oppressing here.

Well, you need someone to oppress, do you not? You'd be lost without me.

[Aolbain]

Xilizhra wrote...

Aolbain wrote...

So, this became a flamewar after all. Sigh.
I am decently sure there was a mage supporter thread hereabout. Can't the mage supporters go there and have fun? We are busy oppressing here.

Well, you need someone to oppress, do you not? You'd be lost without me.

...I don't think this is what oppression is.

[LobselVith8]

Youth4Ever wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Considering it's been years, I'm wondering how the psych of the mages in Andoral's Reach have been impacted. They're probably not feeling too comfortable and are probably weakened.

Disillusioned by now, I would think. Many should be ready to parley. That is a good thing.

Revolutions throughout history would suggest otherwise.

[Dave of Canada]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Revolutions throughout history would suggest otherwise.

You're right, they'd be slaughtered.

History has never been a fan of the meek.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 13 juin 2013 - 08:26 .

[Hazegurl]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Nuh uh, Haze, Imma Pro-Mager, not a mage. =D

Is there a difference?

[Hazegurl]

Aolbain wrote...

So, this became a flamewar after all. Sigh.
I am decently sure there was a mage supporter thread hereabout. Can't the mage supporters go there and have fun? We are busy oppressing here.

Oppression is a mage supporter's food and water. They can't stay away.

[Porenferser]

I really wish it would be possible to flaten Tevinter in DA3 with the Templars.
Afterwards, it can be rebuilt and repopulated with a new Mage Society that behaves itself, without any Slavery.

[Hazegurl]

That would be nice. But then again I sort of think that any place they get to rule could possibly be another Tevinter. it's just too easy for them to resort to blood magic to gain power.