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Make DA3 Dark. Kill off characters.


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Shiiruu

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...Please don't .

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If our companions/family members are going to die, make that death meaningful. That requires giving the player at least some small time to get to know the character. I don't want another Mhairi/DA2 sibling.

There is no quota of characters killed that needs to be fulfilled in order for the game to be descibed as dark. The 'dark' comes from the mature themes which are present in DA games and the way they are handled.

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 As others have said, I'd like a sort of red wedding style occurance. Something completely and utterly unexpected, which makes you feel awful yet hooks you to the story. I'd like a recycled version of the Kaiden/Ashley dilemna from ME1.

Picking Dragon age characters out of thin air for an example, let's say you have to choose between Varric and Oghren.

Though, if either of those dwarves die, I'll just crawl into a corner and shed manly tears for my lost bro. :(

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

And I question whether there are many people who actually realize that all these anti-heros are still following the heroism path.


Yeah. That's kind of why the term is "anti-hero".

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o Ventus wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

And I question whether there are many people who actually realize that all these anti-heros are still following the heroism path.


Yeah. That's kind of why the term is "anti-hero".




I;ve been involved with a lot of people who didn't seem to get the "hero" part of anti-hero. It had made me cynical as to peoples grasp on the concept of being a hero.

I would like the option of being a hero, someone who doesn't go around joyfully slaughtering people and causing rampant death and destruction everywhere he or she goes because as long as they save one person or do one single good deed, it doesn't matter how evil they are to everyone else.

I don't know if there will be an option to be more of a hero than an anti-hero.

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 19 juin 2013 - 05:08 .


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Personally the Red Wedding made me less interested in Game of Thrones, not more. I don't think it would translate well into a game like Dragon Age. I feel like it'd be almost like if you tried to work an event like it into Origins it would be like if Loghain always wins the Landsmeet and executes Alistair Eamon and the Warden so in the finale of the game you play as Loghain, Morrigan and Riordin leading the armies against the Archdemon. Although that's not a perfect analogy because future Dragon Age games aren't direct analogues of future installments of A Song of Ice and Fire, but I feel that'd be kind of how Origins would end if it were corelated to the first three seasons of the show.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 19 juin 2013 - 05:20 .


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I don't want ,hell i have dark in orzammar i got two dic** one lawful other chaotic and both were bad guys and i have to choice between them. I prefer have to good , neutral , evil choice like in nature of the beast.If you want dark dragon age just follow renegate path then you will have gigantic darkness i want play as paragon and have happy ending.:) Well if i have still no matter what i do nothing changes and peoples are screwed like in others 2 games i want have option to join demons and burn world as Woobie Destroyer of Worlds and spare constantly bad endings.

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 19 juin 2013 - 02:34 .


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Sure but don't kill my mommy again. I wouldn't mind if they killed my romance option.

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Honestly it doesn't make the series dark, it just makes it a Tradgey. Dark is more like Dexter or Heck PnP Vampires RPG's can get some serious dark going on, even without murder.

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the game doesn't really need random character deaths in order to be dark. I don't mind characters dying if it actually means something, though. Was not a fan of the DA2 plot with Leandra.

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Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Personally the Red Wedding made me less interested in Game of Thrones, not more. I don't think it would translate well into a game like Dragon Age. I feel like it'd be almost like if you tried to work an event like it into Origins it would be like if Loghain always wins the Landsmeet and executes Alistair Eamon and the Warden so in the finale of the game you play as Loghain, Morrigan and Riordin leading the armies against the Archdemon. Although that's not a perfect analogy because future Dragon Age games aren't direct analogues of future installments of A Song of Ice and Fire, but I feel that'd be kind of how Origins would end if it were corelated to the first three seasons of the show.


The Red Wedding is a combination of horrible decisions made by Robb.  If the Warden made horrible decisions he should lose the landsmeet.  Which is something that does happen, he doesn't die though since it's a game.  But if it was a TV series/book he would have.

I wouldn't mind having to make decisions that can really backfire on you in DA:I.  Or at least something like the Genophage in Mass Effect 3 where the final result is based on multiple choices the player can make, and no matter which way you go you lose a friend.  If the game forces me to lose a companion I'd rather it be that way than Ashley/Kaidan and Anders/Sebastian.

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I had enough downer ending from DA2 and ME3. No thanks.

NOTE: If there is more bitter than sweet in a bittersweet ending, then it's a downer ending, not a bittersweet ending.

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Big Mac Heart Attack wrote...

The Red Wedding is a combination of horrible decisions made by Robb.  If the Warden made horrible decisions he should lose the landsmeet.  Which is something that does happen, he doesn't die though since it's a game.  But if it was a TV series/book he would have.


Pretty much this.

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Jedi Master of Orion

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Big Mac Heart Attack wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Personally the Red Wedding made me less interested in Game of Thrones, not more. I don't think it would translate well into a game like Dragon Age. I feel like it'd be almost like if you tried to work an event like it into Origins it would be like if Loghain always wins the Landsmeet and executes Alistair Eamon and the Warden so in the finale of the game you play as Loghain, Morrigan and Riordin leading the armies against the Archdemon. Although that's not a perfect analogy because future Dragon Age games aren't direct analogues of future installments of A Song of Ice and Fire, but I feel that'd be kind of how Origins would end if it were corelated to the first three seasons of the show.


The Red Wedding is a combination of horrible decisions made by Robb.  If the Warden made horrible decisions he should lose the landsmeet.  Which is something that does happen, he doesn't die though since it's a game.  But if it was a TV series/book he would have.

I wouldn't mind having to make decisions that can really backfire on you in DA:I.  Or at least something like the Genophage in Mass Effect 3 where the final result is based on multiple choices the player can make, and no matter which way you go you lose a friend.  If the game forces me to lose a companion I'd rather it be that way than Ashley/Kaidan and Anders/Sebastian.


Well to be honest, luck seemed to be one of the main factors regarding who suceeded and who failed. In the show at least, he was also seemingly surrounded by a trecherous, incompetent or otherwise unreliable retinue.

But in either case, doesn't that prove my point? It wouldn't translate well into a game.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 19 juin 2013 - 08:40 .


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Dragon Age III: A Game of Thrones.

Sounds epic.

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NVM

Modifié par Kingroxas, 19 juin 2013 - 07:54 .


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They did kill off characters though. If Wynne survived DAO, she sacrificed herself in the book. Although, I don't mind if they bring it over to the game itself. I don't know how well received for them to kill off LIs though seeing how Thane's death was received.