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Ninja Stan wrote...


Why do you think I keep participating in discussions and seemingly taking the company's side all the time? :)


BioWare keeps you enrolled in their "Syrup of the month club?"

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Frankly I would not be surprized that once the game is released a sizable number of fans will still be disappointed and will complain on the length of time it took to produce a ho hum game
I appologise for my cynacism but I am probably overly sensitive to the negatvity some times
Personally I have thoroughly enjoyed all the Bioware games I have played
I do find it odd that the game was anticipated for this year but now wont be out til 2014. I do wonder if this forum's timing, as it turns out, was too soon

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duckley wrote...

Frankly I would not be surprized that once the game is released a sizable number of fans will still be disappointed and will complain on the length of time it took to produce a ho hum game
I appologise for my cynacism but I am probably overly sensitive to the negatvity some times


Nothing to be sorry about. That is how and always has been and most if not all the BioWare employees (current and former) around here understand they will not be able to make everyone happy.

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I'm not complaining in the slightest. The more time the game gets the more relaxed I am. I don't want another DA2 or ME3.


Hells yes! I'm more then happy to wait if it means we get a game that's so good we want to play it again, and again, and again.... 

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duckley wrote...

Frankly I would not be surprized that once the game is released a sizable number of fans will still be disappointed and will complain on the length of time it took to produce a ho hum game
I appologise for my cynacism but I am probably overly sensitive to the negatvity some times
Personally I have thoroughly enjoyed all the Bioware games I have played
I do find it odd that the game was anticipated for this year but now wont be out til 2014. I do wonder if this forum's timing, as it turns out, was too soon


Knowing this forum, you're probably not wrong. Even here, with a simple question, people are assuming myself and others are ****ing about the extension, when in reality it's only a question of what prompted it in the first place.

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so next generation and 2014 well I guess I will get to play it in 2017 or so thanks bioware

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well that means no import and I wasted my time fu** well thanks for nothing

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A long dev cycle for a game is not a bad thing (especially if they can recapture the magic of old BW fantasy games). However the delay till 2014 has been known about for a while now, ever since an unfortunate slip by a Chinese dev on a social (disease) media site, so no surprise. Just as long as MiserySoft hasn't bought an exclusivity deal like Jade and Me 1... I'll sit back and wait for my PC version.

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Wompoo wrote...

A long dev cycle for a game is not a bad thing (especially if they can recapture the magic of old BW fantasy games). However the delay till 2014 has been known about for a while now, ever since an unfortunate slip by a Chinese dev on a social (disease) media site, so no surprise. Just as long as MiserySoft hasn't bought an exclusivity deal like Jade and Me 1... I'll sit back and wait for my PC version.


Wait, what? This is the first I've heard of it. What happened?

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A delay in release is fine with me. They spent 5 years on Dragon Age Origins and it was amazing. They spent less than 2 years on Dragon Age 2 and it was crap.

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Wompoo wrote...

A long dev cycle for a game is not a bad thing (especially if they can recapture the magic of old BW fantasy games). However the delay till 2014 has been known about for a while now, ever since an unfortunate slip by a Chinese dev on a social (disease) media site, so no surprise. Just as long as MiserySoft hasn't bought an exclusivity deal like Jade and Me 1... I'll sit back and wait for my PC version.


Well technically a probable slip into 2014 had been strongly hinted at for some time, but until today, Bioware refused to confirm this and iirc until today the 'unofficial' release target of Q4 2013 was still the word.  Having the game slip a full year in such a short time is a bit worrisome.

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What happened? BioWare designed Mass Effect and decided to make every game after it just like it rather than just letting it be the cinematic, sci fi, action adventure game and letting the fantasy RPG be a fantasy RPG. They'll try to recreate the ME sensation with the DA franchise whether the two are compatible or not.

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Fantasy games can't be cinematic? Or they can, but DA shouldn't be one?

Come to think of it, DA:O wasn't cinematic?

Modifié par AlanC9, 11 juin 2013 - 06:12 .


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IanPolaris wrote...

Wompoo wrote...

A long dev cycle for a game is not a bad thing (especially if they can recapture the magic of old BW fantasy games). However the delay till 2014 has been known about for a while now, ever since an unfortunate slip by a Chinese dev on a social (disease) media site, so no surprise. Just as long as MiserySoft hasn't bought an exclusivity deal like Jade and Me 1... I'll sit back and wait for my PC version.


Well technically a probable slip into 2014 had been strongly hinted at for some time, but until today, Bioware refused to confirm this and iirc until today the 'unofficial' release target of Q4 2013 was still the word.  Having the game slip a full year in such a short time is a bit worrisome.

-Polaris


Ummm well ya its rather clear making the announcement it was coming. That they would stick to what they said until they planned to make the announcement that it was going to be 2014 instead of 2013.

Whats done is done and if they said this last week it wouldn't change anything at all. You would still be worried about it because that's your natural state. At least that's how it appears to worry about anything and everything BioWare says or does.

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IanPolaris wrote...

Wompoo wrote...

A long dev cycle for a game is not a bad thing (especially if they can recapture the magic of old BW fantasy games). However the delay till 2014 has been known about for a while now, ever since an unfortunate slip by a Chinese dev on a social (disease) media site, so no surprise. Just as long as MiserySoft hasn't bought an exclusivity deal like Jade and Me 1... I'll sit back and wait for my PC version.


Well technically a probable slip into 2014 had been strongly hinted at for some time, but until today, Bioware refused to confirm this and iirc until today the 'unofficial' release target of Q4 2013 was still the word.  Having the game slip a full year in such a short time is a bit worrisome.

-Polaris


Searching around, some speculate it has more to do with the fact that their dev team has been pulled away to finish other products destined for the launch of the new consoles, like the next Star Wars game, etc.

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addiction21 wrote...

Whats done is done and if they said this last week it wouldn't change anything at all. You would still be worried about it because that's your natural state. At least that's how it appears to worry about anything and everything BioWare says or does.


That might be because I no longer take what Bioware says at face value.  There are reasons for this.

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IanPolaris wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Whats done is done and if they said this last week it wouldn't change anything at all. You would still be worried about it because that's your natural state. At least that's how it appears to worry about anything and everything BioWare says or does.


That might be because I no longer take what Bioware says at face value.  There are reasons for this.

-Polaris


Was it DA:O that did it to you? Because you have not changed since then.

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addiction21 wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Whats done is done and if they said this last week it wouldn't change anything at all. You would still be worried about it because that's your natural state. At least that's how it appears to worry about anything and everything BioWare says or does.


That might be because I no longer take what Bioware says at face value.  There are reasons for this.

-Polaris


Was it DA:O that did it to you? Because you have not changed since then.


Don't know what you are talking about. I've always been a big fan of DAO.  My skepticism really started with ME2 and DAA (and even then it was mild skepticism).

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IanPolaris wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Whats done is done and if they said this last week it wouldn't change anything at all. You would still be worried about it because that's your natural state. At least that's how it appears to worry about anything and everything BioWare says or does.


That might be because I no longer take what Bioware says at face value.  There are reasons for this.

-Polaris


Was it DA:O that did it to you? Because you have not changed since then.


Don't know what you are talking about. I've always been a big fan of DAO.  My skepticism really started with ME2 and DAA (and even then it was mild skepticism).

-Polaris


Really? Mine was more so DA2. It could have been so much more. Hopefully this is actually time they're taking to improve it, and not an actual hiatus to make some other game like some have speculated. 

Modifié par ziloe, 11 juin 2013 - 07:46 .


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I'm good with delay. It'd be nice to see DA3 get the polish and extra work that DA2 so clearly lacked. Hell, I LIKED DA2, and I still thought it was lackluster in terms of gameplay and level design.

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That would be an administrative nightmare to deal with. Each game has a different budget, and the shifting of personnel from one project's budget to another, and then back again, would make that sort of thing really tough to pull off.

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Ninja Stan wrote...

That would be an administrative nightmare to deal with. Each game has a different budget, and the shifting of personnel from one project's budget to another, and then back again, would make that sort of thing really tough to pull off.


Ha, I don't doubt it one bit. My university group consists of maybe 15 consistent members out of the hundred or so who have joined up, and just trying to juggle making a game on top of school is a nightmare in itself.

Still, what about your concept art and writers? I imagine once they've done what's needed, they'll move on to a new project, no? I do a bit of writing and art myself, and being the only one of that former in my group, I get a lot of requests for help in various projects. 

Modifié par ziloe, 11 juin 2013 - 08:07 .


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long as I get my awesome button I'm fine...

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What changed is they got a proper amount of development time to try and do the game justice. This is a good thing.

Nothing went wrong. Something went right.


Spot on. Please ignore the quick fix brigade and take as long as you need to provide a worthy successor to origins.

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They are apparently making the game open world and usually open world games take a long time to make (like Skyrim and Fallout for example.)