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[Morroian]

Guns wrote...

Because Projekt Red didn't screw their fans over with a shoddy sequel and don't have to prove themselves as much. A lot of fans are looking for Bioware to redeem themselves with Inquisition before writing off Bioware. 

Judging from your posts you seem to have written them off already.

[Cheylus]

Bump because I really want a clarification on this.

What "open world" means clearly for BioWare?
"Open world" in the conference, "open world" in headlines, "open world" in the website.
Aaryn Flynn interview with gametrailers and his comments about "open world": basically, Frostbite opens new technical and visual possibilities.
We didn't have a word for what "open world" means.

Does it mean you will be able to go wherever you want from the start?
Does it mean the story won't be "linear"?
Does it mean we won't have large roads with (invisible) walls?
Will I be able to free roam around all Thedas between quests?
What does "not like Skyrim" means?
What does "open world" mean for you as a developper?
Is it an "open world" like Baldur's Gate (ie. not an open world but a world made of multiple big areas)?

Because "large & open areas" doesn't mean "open world" at all.
FFXII had large and open areas, that doesn't mean it was an open world. It was never advertised as such.
Battlefield has large and open areas, but it's not open world either.

Because "large & open areas", VIDEO GAMES DO THAT FOR DECADES.

Modifié par Cheylus, 12 juin 2013 - 11:13 .

[Boycott Bioware]

I think it means if we don't want to pursue main quest, it will not activated, if we pursue it then things happen, like in Skyrim

The player can just wandering around everywhere doing nothing until choose to do quests

[ianvillan]

simfamSP wrote...

A lot of people are going to claim this as false advertising.

With all the problems and complaints Bioware has had with there past advertising  they should make sure that this new advertising is clear and honest.

[Wulfram]

If they phrased it as "more open world" then it would be more easily understood I think. That would make it clear that it's talking about movement on some sort of continuum, not an absolute.

Just saying "open world" does strongly imply "like Skyrim".

[aridor1570]

ianvillan wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

A lot of people are going to claim this as false advertising.

With all the problems and complaints Bioware has had with there past advertising  they should make sure that this new advertising is clear and honest.

Bioware has already confirmed the game is not going to be a sandbox, but larger, sperated areas, which is prettly much what an open world is.

[Cheylus]

Yep, I love BioWare but I HATE what they do with advertising.
Marketing killed DA2 for me because it was full of lies.

I'm making a huge round up of all that has been said about DA:I on the french BSN since last september because I'm excited by the game. If I have to write lies I'm not interested in doing that and I'm not interested in waiting for this game either.

We haven't seen nothing about the game and they use the big words "open world" everywhere to appeal to Skyrim audience only to tell the truth in a post on the BSN?

[Cheylus]

aridor1570 wrote...

ianvillan wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

A lot of people are going to claim this as false advertising.

With all the problems and complaints Bioware has had with there past advertising  they should make sure that this new advertising is clear and honest.

Bioware has already confirmed the game is not going to be a sandbox, but larger, sperated areas, which is prettly much what an open world is.

Is FFXII an open world? Because it had a lot of big & separated areas.
Is Battlefield multiplayer an open world?
Is Baldur's Gate an open world?

Modifié par Cheylus, 12 juin 2013 - 11:25 .

[fchopin]

The game will not be an open world game it will just be a little more open than DA1 and i think that will be very good for the game.

[9TailsFox]

Cheylus wrote...

The clarification is already here:
http://social.biowar...832520#16834750

Open world doesn't mean "size", it's a full concept.

Marketing.

Why?

Well then you say open world every gamer  go to assumption open world = sandbox like TES or GTA no one in his sain mind make different assumption.

Why marketing because f**k you whats why  

Modifié par 9TailsFox, 12 juin 2013 - 11:33 .

[Cheylus]

I don't care if it's an open world or not, frankly.

I don't think, if I read previous and actual messages by BioWare employees well, that the game will be an "open world".

I'm simply not interested in following DA:I news (and reporting it) if there is lies or false advertising inside.

[Gealunn]

I think Bioware is using the term "open-world" in order to get more attention during this big event which is E3 and because areas in the game are going to be the widest ever seen in a Dragon Age game. But let's not forget this.

Modifié par Gealunn, 12 juin 2013 - 11:38 .

[ianvillan]

9TailsFox wrote...

Cheylus wrote...

The clarification is already here:
http://social.biowar...832520#16834750

Open world doesn't mean "size", it's a full concept.

Marketing.

Why?

Well then you say open world every gamer  go to assumption open world = sandbox like TES or GTA no one in his sain mind make different assumption.

Why marketing because f**k you whats why  

Skyrim is known as open world and now the Witcher 3 is being advertised as open world Bioware is saying open world all the time to compete with these games even if it misleads fans.

[aridor1570]

Cheylus wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

ianvillan wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

A lot of people are going to claim this as false advertising.

With all the problems and complaints Bioware has had with there past advertising  they should make sure that this new advertising is clear and honest.

Bioware has already confirmed the game is not going to be a sandbox, but larger, sperated areas, which is prettly much what an open world is.

Is FFXII an open world? Because it had a lot of big & separated areas.
Is Battlefield multiplayer an open world?
Is Baldur's Gate an open world?

I have no idea because I haven't played any of them and had no interest in them.

[aridor1570]

ianvillan wrote...

9TailsFox wrote...

Cheylus wrote...

The clarification is already here:
http://social.biowar...832520#16834750

Open world doesn't mean "size", it's a full concept.

Marketing.

Why?

Well then you say open world every gamer  go to assumption open world = sandbox like TES or GTA no one in his sain mind make different assumption.

Why marketing because f**k you whats why  

Skyrim is known as open world and now the Witcher 3 is being advertised as open world Bioware is saying open world all the time to compete with these games even if it misleads fans.

The Witcher 3 is also using larger, seperated areas, just like DA:I.

[NRieh]

Youtube/DA:I website: "You'll make your mark in an expansive, story-driven open world filled
with complex characters, challenging combat and difficult decisions."

It also calls trailer "in-game footage", which is true (but yet - false).

[Cheylus]

aridor1570 wrote...

ianvillan wrote...

9TailsFox wrote...

Cheylus wrote...

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The Witcher 3 is also using larger, seperated areas, just like DA:I.

No.

And a game with large and separated areas is not an open world. You didn't play Battlefield, FFXII and BG, ok. 
You played Mass Effect right? Was Mass Effect an open world because you were able to "free roam" on planets, which were large & separated areas?

Modifié par Cheylus, 12 juin 2013 - 11:54 .

[Gealunn]

*sigh*

Really, the 2011 NYCC presentation about Dragon Age 3 was clear on this point.

http://www.youtube.c...xkoGVKlY#t=318s

Modifié par Gealunn, 12 juin 2013 - 11:53 .

[aridor1570]

Cheylus wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

ianvillan wrote...

9TailsFox wrote...

Cheylus wrote...

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The Witcher 3 is also using larger, seperated areas, just like DA:I.

No.

And a game with large and separated areas is not an open world. You didn't play Battlefield, FFXII and BG, ok. 
You played Mass Effect right? Was Mass Effect an open world because you were able to "free roam" on planets, which were large & separated areas?

To a certain extent with the first ME, yes, because it allowed you to freely explore the open areas on planets with the Mako, but it doesn't count for the rest of the game, since all of the missions are linear.

[Zippy72]

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Open_world

We'll have to wait until more information is released to see how "open world" is implemented in a Dragon Age game. Until then it's all speculation.

[Reznore57]

They probably means that DA 's going to have very large levels that feels like open world.
It's PR , you tell half truth .

[Maverick827]

If BioWare tried to coin a new phrase to describe the type of game that DA:I is going to be - say, "modular-open world" instead of "open world," - then the same belligerent haters here would have been all over them for trying to "swindle" their players with "doublespeak" anyway.

By complaining so much so early about something you know so little about, you make it clear that you're of the camp whose opinions should be ignored.