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So what is your opinion on Morrigan, Varric & Cassandra's new looks?


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archangel1996 wrote...

Varric's chest hair? Is that ok to ask? :P


Thats fine. Hes a dude, and chicks dig chest hair duh ;)

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 11 juin 2013 - 04:15 .


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You know what's real fun to think about?

If...IF (note the emphasis on the IF)...they do an armor system like they were saying they were considering (again, IF) and Morrigan is a companion (again, IF)...it's fun to think how her iconic look would be preserved with different robes and such.

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andar91 wrote...

You know what's real fun to think about?

If...IF (note the emphasis on the IF)...they do an armor system like they were saying they were considering (again, IF) and Morrigan is a companion (again, IF)...it's fun to think how her iconic look would be preserved with different robes and such.


Yeah. IF she is a companion, I am also looking foreward to that.

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I found the new graphics a bit weird but I think I am slowly getting used to them.

As for morrigan she just looks a bit scarier and a bit more like Flemeth

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I thought everybody looked great.
Didn't like Morrigan's necklace though ... kept thinking popsicle sticks. Like something that would come from an issue of Martha Stewart's Crafts for Old God Kids. ;)

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David Gaider does have a point though....

This thread has hit 19 pages already yet Varic, who I got the impression was considered by BSN as the best companion in DA2 gets a new look as well. Yet the thread for discussing that is on the 2nd page of this forum and has only 4 pages to it...

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archangel1996 wrote...

......Don't like/question Morrigan's look? you are a mysoginist
.....Really it's like some mods are reading the opinions through a magnifying glass made of negativity


and I was aghast at what happened to the elves looks in DA2.  What does that make me?  A miso....?

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Sten is going to look so badass in the new frostbite engine....

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i wonder if the dress was to show us a bit of the ridiculous fashion that exists in Orlais or was it just Morrigan's mew outfit.

I don't hate it like everyone else seems to but it is a little out of character at least from what we know of Morrigan.

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Welsh Inferno wrote...

andar91 wrote...

You know what's real fun to think about?

If...IF (note the emphasis on the IF)...they do an armor system like they were saying they were considering (again, IF) and Morrigan is a companion (again, IF)...it's fun to think how her iconic look would be preserved with different robes and such.


Yeah. IF she is a companion, I am also looking foreward to that.


I'm just going to go out on a limb and say it.
I would be absolutely shocked if she was a companion again. My feeling is that the chances of this happening are next to zero. (I'm perfectly fine with this).
I doubt she will have much screen time at all in game.  Her purpose in the trailer is to amp up DAO fans who love her.
I think her role will be similar to that of Flemeth in DA2. Only a few minutes of screentime, perhaps at the very end/climax of the story.
The fan rage would be epic, but oh well. *shrugs*

Modifié par sandalisthemaker, 11 juin 2013 - 04:19 .


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Amycus89 wrote...
I actually love Morrigan's new look, and is now catiously optimistic about the new artstyle. Of course, we still don't know how the new NEW redesign of the elves will look like...


That's a good question. In addition to the Darkspawn retcon, I hated the Elven retconn in DA2 so I am very curious to see what Bioware does with the elves for DA3.

I really hope we get some more information fairly soon on that, and some actual information on gameplay etc too.

But overall I'm feeling optimistic again after feeling depressed about the future of DA for quite a while now. That's a pretty great change from my perspective :)

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Bleachrude wrote...

David Gaider does have a point though....

This thread has hit 19 pages already yet Varic, who I got the impression was considered by BSN as the best companion in DA2 gets a new look as well. Yet the thread for discussing that is on the 2nd page of this forum and has only 4 pages to it...


I already commented that the years have not been kind to Varric.

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 I love how so many people think that DG was addressing them specifically, and are taking personal offense to it.

"Oh you're not a misogynist? Then I guess misogyny simply doesn't exist in gamer culture. I'll go write an official retraction right now. Thank you, for curing me of my gross misconception about this community that I've lived and worked in for over a decade."

Of course, I've yet to meet the misogynist who would ever admit to being one.

Also --

David Gaider wrote...
Sarcasm is always necessary.


I now have a creed.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 11 juin 2013 - 04:20 .


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Bleachrude wrote...

David Gaider does have a point though....

This thread has hit 19 pages already yet Varic, who I got the impression was considered by BSN as the best companion in DA2 gets a new look as well. Yet the thread for discussing that is on the 2nd page of this forum and has only 4 pages to it...


His point might have validity in the grand scheme of things but not in response to my comment which was referring to the trailer they released and the comments relating to it. The representation of female to male characters in the trailer was highly weighed towards female characters in the trailer so it is only natural that there would be a higher proportion of discussions relating to female characters from it.

As for Morrigan comments a lot of people are focusing on the jawline and lips because it does look very odd when in movement due to either model or rendering I assume. It is not just a preference issue, it seems fine when mouth is shut, the proportions look about right but when in movement it looks distorted.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 11 juin 2013 - 04:26 .


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Bleachrude wrote...

David Gaider does have a point though....

This thread has hit 19 pages already yet Varic, who I got the impression was considered by BSN as the best companion in DA2 gets a new look as well. Yet the thread for discussing that is on the 2nd page of this forum and has only 4 pages to it...


I actually dissliked his new look allot more than Morrigans but I find Morrigans character more interesting. 

Plus I think i need to gt used to the new engine everyone looked weird to me the first time i saw the trailer. 

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Bleachrude wrote...

David Gaider does have a point though....

This thread has hit 19 pages already yet Varic, who I got the impression was considered by BSN as the best companion in DA2 gets a new look as well. Yet the thread for discussing that is on the 2nd page of this forum and has only 4 pages to it...


I admit I never expected this to go past 5 pages or so. I'd say its more attributed to her popularity and the myths surrounding her and her mother. Everyone is interested in one of those whether you like her or not.

Cassandra, who from what I'v seen in the "who do you want for companions threads", practically everyone wants her as a companion. So she's popular. She also doesn't have a long thread about her, like Varric.

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Probably because Morrigan went missing after DA:O
And then seriously, many romanced her and even more think of her as a great great character

Saying that someone is a misogynist only because that someone sayes she was better with her old clothes, without strange jaw or with different hair is just, sorry, stupid
If then we talk about BW characters like Ashley and Isabela that made a 180° XD

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sandalisthemaker wrote...

I'm just going to go out on a limb and say it.
I would be absolutely shocked if she was a companion again. My feeling is that the chances of this happening are next to zero. (I'm perfectly fine with this).
I doubt she will have much screen time at all in game.  Her purpose in the trailer is to amp up DAO fans who love her.
I think her role will be similar to that of Flemeth in DA2. Only a few minutes of screentime, perhaps at the very end/climax of the story.
The fan rage would be epic, but oh well. *shrugs*


I feel the same. 

Except the fan rage, there will be a few complaints but i seriously doubt rage across the forum when plenty are unsure of whether they want her as a comapnion or not anyway.

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 11 juin 2013 - 04:25 .


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andar91 wrote...

No, I'm pretty sure that was just people judging from one screenshot.

I don't think Gaider is referring to all criticism of character's appearances over time. I think he's referencing the pattern of criticism leveled at female characters in particular. I've only been on here since midway to Origins' release, but I can see it to. The male characters are criticized, but it always seems like the ladies are under the Eye of Sauron far more.


1.  Bioware gives it's scantily clad ladies more prominence.  If the trailer had climaxed with Varric gurning out at us, we'd probably see more comments on him

2.  There's a natural emphasis on people who are potential LIs, and even more on past LIs - I remember lots of women talking about Cullen, complaining about Alistair and Zevran being hit with the ugly stick.  And there's more straight men than women and gay men on the board.  Is that really misogyny? 

3.  Does this justify slathering a quite major slur on peoples character rather indiscriminately over a thread that seems like it was rather polite and well behaved up until that point?

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Welsh Inferno wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

I'm just going to go out on a limb and say it.
I would be absolutely shocked if she was a companion again. My feeling is that the chances of this happening are next to zero. (I'm perfectly fine with this).
I doubt she will have much screen time at all in game.  Her purpose in the trailer is to amp up DAO fans who love her.
I think her role will be similar to that of Flemeth in DA2. Only a few minutes of screentime, perhaps at the very end/climax of the story.
The fan rage would be epic, but oh well. *shrugs*


I feel the same. 

Except the fan rage, there will be a few complaints but i seriously doubt rage across the forum when plenty are unsure of whether they want her as a comapnion or not anyway.


Well, I meant fan rage from many of *her* fans of course. 

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Wulfram wrote...
Does this justify slathering a quite major slur on peoples character rather indiscriminately over a thread that seems like it was rather polite and well behaved up until that point?

Insofar as gossiping about an individual's appearance can be considered polite.

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It says actual in-game footage. I'm abit erected honestly. Love what i'm seeing IF that's in-game. The Qunari looks really bad arse now. And I saw Cassandra there. Looks awesome as well.

One thing i wanted to point out is that Morrigan looks awfully ugly. I love her new appearance, dress and etc. But what happened to her mouth and jaw?

Seems that she could swallow a whole toad by that mouth itself. Ugh. I sincerely hope they rework her pointy nose (it looks downright like and old hag) as well as that big jaws and mouth. Eew.

Modifié par Archaven, 11 juin 2013 - 04:32 .


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Plaintiff wrote...

Insofar as gossiping about an individual's appearance can be considered polite.


Wait, Morrigan's a real individual?  Why did no one tell me!

Modifié par Wulfram, 11 juin 2013 - 04:34 .


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Plaintiff wrote...

Wulfram wrote...
Does this justify slathering a quite major slur on peoples character rather indiscriminately over a thread that seems like it was rather polite and well behaved up until that point?

Insofar as gossiping about an individual's appearance can be considered polite.


When that character is a fictional videogame one made up of polygons it does not have to be as polite. You will not hurt her feelings if say the model looks awkard and distorted or even out of proporation.

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Wulfram wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Insofar as gossiping about an individual's appearance can be considered polite.


Wait, Morrigan's a real individual?  Why did no one tell me!

Whether or not she's real, or has feelings to be hurt, is rather beside the point.