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[izmirtheastarach]

But he's not a good ambassador. Unless the Mass Effect universe has some definition of ambassador that I am not aware of.



He is the John Bolton of Mass Effect.



If you sent an ambassador to the UN, and all he did was scream and yell and make demands of the other delegates, would anyone want to work with him? Wouldn't he be a giant failure?

[Frotality]

udina is just like any modern politician...minus any semblance of subtlety or tact. he does a wonderful job of proving the stereotype that all humans are reckless bullies to the council.he isnt fit to run a neighborhood watch meeting let alone all of council space. how he got to be ambassador to all of earth is a greater mystery than the motives of the reapers. <_<

[Count Viceroy]

Frotality wrote...
 how he got to be ambassador to all of earth is a greater mystery than the motives of the reapers. <_<

Hello? Have you met Udina? He backstabbed his way through obviously. The way to the top is through the back of the guy above you.

[Merchant2006]

THIS THREAD IS AN OUTRAGE!



But really, I agree with what C.Viceroy says. Udina is one ruthless guy, unlike his predecessor who was... if not more kinder then slightly more sympathetic.

[Frotality]

Count Viceroy wrote...

Frotality wrote...
 how he got to be ambassador to all of earth is a greater mystery than the motives of the reapers. <_<

Hello? Have you met Udina? He backstabbed his way through obviously. The way to the top is through the back of the guy above you.

an unfortunately likely scenario. but council politics are not human politics, it was my hope that at some point bribery, blackmail, and backstabbing wouldnt cut it; ambassador to the council would be a very prestigous position that likely requires some review by council representatives. manipulating a millenia old government that is lightyears ahead of anything humanity could cook up shouldnt be possible by someone as blunt and tactless as udina; in fact it is likely that udina is part of some politically powerful family; there is no way he couldve cheated his way to the top of his own devices.

youd think someone would hit up the shadow broker for some dirt on udina; he has to have made more enemies than friends with his style; its about time he gets hit with the same sleazy methods that he obviously used.

[Rm80]

well not sure I like Udina that much on either but still it would be a lie to call him a bad character...



I believe he is one of the best characters, simply for being believeble.



He acts like a total smuck, but still he is not total bad. He does what he believes is best for humanity (and himself)...

[Barquiel]

I never chose Udina. He was an incompetent ambassador (but brilliant voice acting!)

Modifié par Barquiel, 17 janvier 2010 - 09:34 .

[DarthReavus]

Udina was a brilliant, well written and acted machiavellian character, but he was a terrible ambassador. Captain Anderson may be a military man but he's also a man willing to do what's right and stand up for what he believes in. That's the sort of man the Alliance needs as it's representative on the Council, not a scheming politician like Udina.

[izmirtheastarach]

My Shepard was a better ambassador the Udina, throughout the game. Less shouting and more reasoned arguments,

[Shanra]

Udina.. Oh how him and my paragon Shepard butted heads often. Those two never got a long, and always yelled at each other. Ah well. I saved the Council and picked Anderson for the Human role.



However, he and my renegade Shepard get a long well so far (I'm not very far into the game on my renegade) and I think I may just pick him at the end. They both like to insult and yell at the council for being blind idiots that don't take action.



I think he's a well done character. You're always bound to find people like him. He's fighting for humanity, but he's also fighting for himself. He's under a lot of pressure at the ambassador for humans, who are the next contenders for a council spot. I don't entirely blame him.



I didn't like him, on my first play through, but I think that's the point, with the choices I made. I think it was well done!

[Cypher0020]

ok, I sorta like Udina's political drive, and I did feel for him after the first council meeting...



But somehow, after he kept saying I'm (Shepard) crazy, and kept barking at me after saving Tali, plus Virmire, and lockdown... he lost my vote. Especially when I'm more trouble than I'm worth.



Oh hell no.



Anderson is Shepard's mentor, and thus I always elect him for Councilman.

[Nyaore]

DarthReavus wrote...

Udina was a brilliant, well written and acted machiavellian character, but he was a terrible ambassador. Captain Anderson may be a military man but he's also a man willing to do what's right and stand up for what he believes in. That's the sort of man the Alliance needs as it's representative on the Council, not a scheming politician like Udina.

Agreed 100%.

[Ktauliss]

I wonder if a background check of Ambassador Udina would reveal connections to Terra Firma Party and/or Cerberus as his attitudes certainly seem well suited to those groups.



He seems to be willing to get what 'he' feels is needed at whatever the cost to anyone else, including his own allies/employee's/employers.



He got my Vote only on my full out Renegade Play through (along with a dead Council)

[Cheita_Corps]

I like Udina but yeah he just didn't seem all that effective with the council.

[Arteziya]

One of the most rage-inducing ME1 characters ever. Ineffective diplomat, careerist, and total ****. Scene in which Anderson punched the bastard in the face was one of the most satisfying in whole game.

[ExarKun00720]

Arteziya wrote...

One of the most rage-inducing ME1 characters ever. Ineffective diplomat, careerist, and total ****. Scene in which Anderson punched the bastard in the face was one of the most satisfying in whole game.

Made you envy Anderson didn't it?

[Arrtis]

He did a good job.

Given the Info he had.

[Arteziya]

ExarKun00720 wrote...

Made you envy Anderson didn't it?

You bet it did! It was very "How I wish I was there" moment. 

[Kerilus]

Udina and the Council's narrow-mindedness almost doomed the galaxy and you want me to choose him as the new chairman? No, no thank you.
 
If after the defeat of Soveign peace was secured, I would have considered choosing Udina. However, the Reapers are not going to wait forever. They're gonna come, and soon, so I'd rather have a war-time chairman who concerns more about leading a nation at war than petty politics. Besides, Anderson had faith in Shep in the worst situation and that, will give Shep more freedom to deal with the threat to come.

Modifié par Kerilus, 17 janvier 2010 - 11:18 .

[Lonely_Fat_Guy]

oh god not this topic again.

on the old forum i whas chris the pious.

DeathCultArm wrote...

I play full renegade so Udina is the only choice. That being said I think you need a human like Udina on the council. And in udina's eyes what he did was right. It wasn't personal, and if you look at it from his perspective it made since.

hey deathcultarm i whas the one who convinced/suggested  you to replay the last game and pick udina

as too the OP

the council got tired of your stupid dream about killer robots, so Udina took charge and showed the council that humanity can keep it self in check. remember what happend too the first specter? kieth david (captain anderson, im a fan of the actor and his voice is great) the first f*cked thinsg up and sended the humans a few steps back with the council.

the fear of another backlash of a human spectre might even cancel the humans chances with getting into the council. hey they might just like the volus have to stand by the sideline and see the big bad races do all the discions. setting back the humans for a hundred years before they even think of a nother human specter.

i can get the idee you think that he isnt a good politican but HUMANITY PUT HIM THERE FOR A REASON! we only see the confrontations with us, those are useually verry tense.

and lets faced it you feel screwed over , thats why you hate him!

be objective people!

edit:
he isnt looking out for himself, again...there whas no personail gain for udina! play the game again and tell me WHERE did he go for his own skin?

2nd point udina's speech with a dead council is F*CKING EPIC! gave me goosebumbs! its a roleplaying game so you wont get hurt if you choose him.

Modifié par Lonely_Fat_Guy, 17 janvier 2010 - 11:28 .

[Kerilus]

To Lonely Fat Guy, that's why I chose the more tactical-wise decision...instead of saving the Council.

[Lonely_Fat_Guy]

Kerilus wrote...

To Lonely Fat Guy, that's why I chose the more tactical-wise decision...instead of saving the Council.

same here, renegade let them die.

paragorn focused on the reaper, who cares about the council i the whole known universe gets whiped out by robots? an easy logic chioce. sovrin had to be stoped no mather what!