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#101
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David Gaider wrote...

Ha. I can't even be annoyed by those who've evidently figured out the plot from that trailer and are already bored by it. It's kind of funny, really.

It's a different tack from DA2, certainly. But we do like to do that from game to game. The stakes are certainly higher. Hopefully you all like the details as they come out. Or complain about them... but since some of you enjoy doing that a lot, I imagine it's win/win overall. :)


Am I right in assuming that instead of the just Mage vs Templar conflict, what we see in the trailer (and by what we've read/heard after the reveal on E3), that it's a ****storm of different conflicts? Dragons darken the sky,  the Veil is torn asunder so Demons are rampaging around, Mage vs Templar conflict, Civil War in Orlais, and Grey Wardens fighting Darkspawn?

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Welsh Inferno wrote...

I'm more interested in what exactly caused such a big tear in the veil.

My guess is someone went back in time and returned to the present causing a gigantic time paradox. The tear leads to a different universe.

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To be honest I'd rather focus on stopping the demon invasion.

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David Gaider wrote...

Ha. I can't even be annoyed by those who've evidently figured out the plot from that trailer and are already bored by it. It's kind of funny, really.

It's a different tack from DA2, certainly. But we do like to do that from game to game. The stakes are certainly higher. Hopefully you all like the details as they come out. Or complain about them... but since some of you enjoy doing that a lot, I imagine it's win/win overall. :)


Oh you ^_^.

Seems to me there is a lot to go from from the previous installments and am very curious what the story will be about.
Will the red thread be the mage/templar war or will that just be used to get the story started?

Everything is possible....

#105
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The first thing that came to my mind after seeing that trailer is Warcraft 3 :"We never paid any heed to the ancient prophecies; like fools we fought as we had for generations...until the day the sky rained fire ...and a new enemy came upon us" I really hope  this is not gonna be yet another "unite the world against a common threat".

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I think the trailer was great. I had to almost catch the drool from hoping how great this will be. I am looking forward to this game and am a little sad to have to wait another year but glad they are holding it off.

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I think Demon horde is a much more compelling premise than madwoman with a magic glowing sword. One of the main thing Dragon Age 2 lacked was an overarching conflict that tied all three acts together- all three were focused on one individually. I also think Dragon Age 2 was a good example of why more personalised fantasy plots just don't tend to be as engaging and high-stakes. 

Not to mention the trailer showed just as much time on the Qunari and civil conflict as it did the demons. People are just cherry picking to suit their arguments, or rather lemon picking. Until we actually get a more detailed plot overview we still don't know what the primary conflict is.

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Tinxa wrote...

With the sky opening and creatures coming through in the trailer it seems like DA:I is returning to a more conventional fantasy plot. The big bad opens a portal, demons come through, you close it and save the world...

The mages/templars war seems to be secondary to the demons invading. Not that the story still can't have interesting twists or be done in a different way.

Personally I was hoping for a more political  central plot. Even in Origins the Loghain storyline was more interesting than just fighting the Archdemon. I'm really hoping there's more to it.



It was a Teaser Trailer! Very specific thing's were shown to make the point of it being a teaser. Not to mention, the World vs Darkspawn vs Demons always WAS the main conflict in Dragon Age, do you really think Bioware are going to shun everything that was setup in Dragon Age 2?

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David Gaider wrote...

Ha. I can't even be annoyed by those who've evidently figured out the plot from that trailer and are already bored by it. It's kind of funny, really.

It's a different tack from DA2, certainly. But we do like to do that from game to game. The stakes are certainly higher. Hopefully you all like the details as they come out. Or complain about them... but since some of you enjoy doing that a lot, I imagine it's win/win overall. :)


People are NEVER satisfied. Concentrate on the game David, many Bioware 'fans' simply aren't capable of posting their opinions in a structured, pleasant and non-provacative way.

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David Gaider wrote...

Ha. I can't even be annoyed by those who've evidently figured out the plot from that trailer and are already bored by it. It's kind of funny, really.

It's a different tack from DA2, certainly. But we do like to do that from game to game. The stakes are certainly higher. Hopefully you all like the details as they come out. Or complain about them... but since some of you enjoy doing that a lot, I imagine it's win/win overall. :)  

To be honest, I feel like I should have some idea of what the plot is about after watching the trailer but I really don't.  Dunce cap and to the back of the classroom for me.
:unsure:

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David Gaider wrote...

Ha. I can't even be annoyed by those who've evidently figured out the plot from that trailer and are already bored by it. It's kind of funny, really.

It's a different tack from DA2, certainly. But we do like to do that from game to game. The stakes are certainly higher. Hopefully you all like the details as they come out. Or complain about them... but since some of you enjoy doing that a lot, I imagine it's win/win overall. :)



Yay to higher stakes! 

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Tinxa wrote...

With the sky opening and creatures coming through in the trailer it seems like DA:I is returning to a more conventional fantasy plot. The big bad opens a portal, demons come through, you close it and save the world...

The mages/templars war seems to be secondary to the demons invading. Not that the story still can't have interesting twists or be done in a different way.

Personally I was hoping for a more political  central plot. Even in Origins the Loghain storyline was more interesting than just fighting the Archdemon. I'm really hoping there's more to it.


As I read this post, I kept flashing back to the Brecillian Forest, and the Veil being thin due to whatever war was fought there.  I then considered what the veil separates, and the nature of the war going on in the timeline, and I have to ask, did you pay attention throughout the games or not?

Cliff notes version:  The Veil separates the Fade, which is where the demons live, from Thedas.  With a lot of magic being used to fight the war, the Veil is being torn, allowing Demons to cross from the Fade to physical world.  This is not the first time that this premise has been used;  the aforementioned Brecillian Forest, and a swamp in Awakening come immediately to mind, not to mention Kirkwall and it's rather odd predilection for Blood Mages.  If this is what the trailer is showing, it's to be expected.

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robertthebard wrote...

Tinxa wrote...

With the sky opening and creatures coming through in the trailer it seems like DA:I is returning to a more conventional fantasy plot. The big bad opens a portal, demons come through, you close it and save the world...

The mages/templars war seems to be secondary to the demons invading. Not that the story still can't have interesting twists or be done in a different way.

Personally I was hoping for a more political  central plot. Even in Origins the Loghain storyline was more interesting than just fighting the Archdemon. I'm really hoping there's more to it.


As I read this post, I kept flashing back to the Brecillian Forest, and the Veil being thin due to whatever war was fought there.  I then considered what the veil separates, and the nature of the war going on in the timeline, and I have to ask, did you pay attention throughout the games or not?

Cliff notes version:  The Veil separates the Fade, which is where the demons live, from Thedas.  With a lot of magic being used to fight the war, the Veil is being torn, allowing Demons to cross from the Fade to physical world.  This is not the first time that this premise has been used;  the aforementioned Brecillian Forest, and a swamp in Awakening come immediately to mind, not to mention Kirkwall and it's rather odd predilection for Blood Mages.  If this is what the trailer is showing, it's to be expected.


*sigh* I don't care WHY the veil gets torn and I don't need a DA history lesson. My point was that IF the main enemies are faceless hordes of demons that is again a more traditional high stakes "save the world from demons" story as opposed to a more personal Hawke story in DA2. And I'm not saying this is absolutely BAD, and I'm not screaming "Woe is me! Bioware is doomed!". I was just making some observations about a possible interpretation of the teaser for a discussion.

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Tinxa wrote...

With the sky opening and creatures coming through in the trailer it seems like DA:I is returning to a more conventional fantasy plot. The big bad opens a portal, demons come through, you close it and save the world...

The mages/templars war seems to be secondary to the demons invading. Not that the story still can't have interesting twists or be done in a different way.

Personally I was hoping for a more political  central plot. Even in Origins the Loghain storyline was more interesting than just fighting the Archdemon. I'm really hoping there's more to it.



Put hundreds of mage casting the **** out of them in a epic battle and i think the veil will rip like in the trailer.

Point in case i believe the plot won't be a canonical "Big bad opens a portal, demons come through, " but simply you are talking about a particular sequence of the story

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Androme wrote...
Am I right in assuming that instead of the just Mage vs Templar conflict, what we see in the trailer (and by what we've read/heard after the reveal on E3), that it's a ****storm of different conflicts? Dragons darken the sky,  the Veil is torn asunder so Demons are rampaging around, Mage vs Templar conflict, Civil War in Orlais, and Grey Wardens fighting Darkspawn?


There are a number of ways to interpret the trailer, I imagine. It's pretty safe to say, I think, that any supposed demonic horde would not be the only conflict in DAI any more than the darkspawn were the only conflict in DAO.

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David will there be another FB or other game played that gets you DLC gear. I played the extra stuff for DAO and DA2 how about AOC being a added bonus to new DAI??

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I agree that it is hard to figure out the story of the game from just one trailer.
From what is shown we can atleast expect to finally find out what Flemeth has planned for the world! (yay)

The thing I am concerned about, though, is how the story will be executed in an open world environment...

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David Gaider wrote...

Ha. I can't even be annoyed by those who've evidently figured out the plot from that trailer and are already bored by it. It's kind of funny, really.

It's a different tack from DA2, certainly. But we do like to do that from game to game. The stakes are certainly higher. Hopefully you all like the details as they come out. Or complain about them... but since some of you enjoy doing that a lot, I imagine it's win/win overall. :)


Well from what I could tell from the trailer, we're a protagonist who has to fight things. Ugh, SO PREDICTABLE. I bet there's swords because this is a blatant Skyrim ripoff.

/s.<3

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I'm completely uninterested in the mage vs. templar thing and always have been, so the less there is of that the better.

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u need the big bad to draw the crowds but they can really make the game in depth under the hood sort to speak

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From the descriptions they have been giving about the game a lot of it is going to be politics and the different factions. They even go on about the different ways you can handle political situations, so not even worried that Bioware just devolved into a hack and slash with no point. No game of Bioware's that I played was without an interesting plot and great characters (Yes, including DA2, not my favorite Bioware game but still better than a majority of games out there).

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I think there is going to be more political issues than we think. In the trailer, it looks like Cassandra is attacking a Grey Warden Fortress. Maybe Weisherpt (sorry about spelling)? Remember the Grey Wardens were in Kirkwall before issues with the mages and templars started spiralling downward. Do they have something to do with this?

I think this game could be a very interesting addition to the DA universe, just hopefully it doesn't forget what the main issues are supposed to be. I didn't like the 3 part structure of DA2 much, with the motive of the 1st act simply to make money, the 2nd to quell the Qunari threat and the 3rd to try calm the issues with mages/templars. I felt it was a little messy.


It's likely Montsimmard, a Grey Warden fortress in Orlais that also doubles as a Circle, if I remember correctly. Which could explain why the Templars/Seekers are attacking it.