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[GreyLycanTrope]

Oh god please no. Anything but that! I rather play fricken Lee skeleton then that.

Like you wouldn't play as Lee's skeleton anyways. You're not fooling anyone House!

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Make difficult moral choices like shit now, or shit while Clementine is changing your diaper.

WHAT WILL YOU CHOOSE?

[Bugsie]

I don't mind Sarah, and honestly I feel more sorry for her than anything else. Hope she's alright. I want Clem to take a shot at being somebody's Lee.

I would hazard a guess that a lot of dislike for the character is that she's 'weak'.   Many of the previous posts here say as much.I'd also hazard a guess that many don't actually know many children in rl.   But to make a story like this work you have to have 'weak' characters - by that I mean characters with what people deem as failings not in the exposition.  I was so angry at Carver for making Carlos hit her, so, so angry, like blood boiling angry.  You don't need to punish the weak to bring order, that is where I think Carver was 'weak'.  He couldn't deal with the fact that not everyone is like him - Clem even says as much to him and he tries to dismiss it by saying 'you're more like me than you realise'.  Maybe so, but with one small difference, Clem has the intelligence to recognise the spectrum of humanity she's come in contact with and deal accordingly.  What makes Clem a survivor is not bully boy strength its resilience and aptitude.

[Mr.House]

I would hazard a guess that a lot of dislike for the character is that she's 'weak'.   Many of the previous posts here say as much.I'd also hazard a guess that many don't actually know many children in rl.   But to make a story like this work you have to have 'weak' characters - by that I mean characters with what people deem as failings not in the exposition.  I was so angry at Carver for making Carlos hit her, so, so angry, like blood boiling angry.  You don't need to punish the weak to bring order, that is where I think Carver was 'weak'.  He couldn't deal with the fact that not everyone is like him - Clem even says as much to him and he tries to dismiss it by saying 'you're more like me than you realise'.  Maybe so, but with one small difference, Clem has the intelligence to recognise the spectrum of humanity she's come in contact with and deal accordingly.  What makes Clem a survivor is not bully boy strength its resilience and aptitude.

No, people dislike her because she is an annoying brat that causes **** to explode like Ben and constantly latches onto Clem in a creepy manner. Has nothing to do with her being "weak" at all.

[Milan92]

I would hazard a guess that a lot of dislike for the character is that she's 'weak'.   Many of the previous posts here say as much.I'd also hazard a guess that many don't actually know many children in rl.   But to make a story like this work you have to have 'weak' characters - by that I mean characters with what people deem as failings not in the exposition.  I was so angry at Carver for making Carlos hit her, so, so angry, like blood boiling angry.  You don't need to punish the weak to bring order, that is where I think Carver was 'weak'.  He couldn't deal with the fact that not everyone is like him - Clem even says as much to him and he tries to dismiss it by saying 'you're more like me than you realise'.  Maybe so, but with one small difference, Clem has the intelligence to recognise the spectrum of humanity she's come in contact with and deal accordingly.  What makes Clem a survivor is not bully boy strength its resilience and aptitude.

 

I'm gonna go #teamsarah now just so that she has atleast some support

[Milan92]

No, people dislike her because she is an annoying brat that causes **** to explode like Ben and constantly latches onto Clem in a creepy manner. Has nothing to do with her being "weak" at all.

 

Considering Clem is the only girl in the group of her age and since she doesn't really have friends now - i'd say what she does is pretty normal for a human who is feeling lonely.

[Mr.House]

I wish Chuck was still alive to meet Carlos, he would have put Carlos in his place.

[Mr.House]

Considering Clem is the only girl in the group of her age and since she doesn't really have friends now - i'd say what she does is pretty normal for a human who is feeling lonely.

Serah is 15 years old, she's a bloody teen who can't even defend herself from zombies two years in the goddam outbreak. Clem has told her many times to leave her alone and she keeps latching on, this will annoy people.

[Milan92]

I wish Chuck was still alive to meet Carlos, he would have put Carlos in his place.

 

Carlos needs to be put in his place now? Okay.

[Mr.House]

Carlos needs to be put in his place now? Okay.

He never taught his daughter how to defend or take care of herself. If that's not a problem I don't know what is.

[Bugsie]

And this is children we're talking about.  She isn't a dumb ass college boy who should know better like Ben.  She's a scared little girl who's been sheltered by her father for whatever reason.  She's also not Clementine.  Who'd a thought children can have individual personalities!  Good thing it's Tell tale writing the stories, a dozen plucky Clems clones would get old and annoying fast.  I think its great to see Telltale pick a range of personalities for their characters and extend this to the children characters too.  I loved it when Kenny was talking about the idiotic 'running around in circles' thing that Duck did.    

[Mr.House]

And this is children we're talking about.  She isn't a dumb ass college boy who should know better like Ben.  She's a scared little girl who's been sheltered by her father for whatever reason.  She's also not Clementine.  Who'd a thought children can have individual personalities!  Good thing it's Tell tale writing the stories, a dozen plucky Clems clones would get old and annoying fast.  I think its great to see Telltale pick a range of personalities for their characters and extend this to the children characters too.  I loved it when Kenny was talking about the idiotic 'running around in circles' thing that Duck did.    

Serah is 15, she's not a child, she is a teenager. She's also living in a world now where age does not matter anymore, no one seemed to give Chuck a hard time when he gave Lee the hard truth and Lee taught Clem everything he knows, so why does Serah get an excuse? She's older and having a disability is a poor excuse.

[Liamv2]

Is it ever actually stated how old Serah is? I've only seen it in the wiki.

[Milan92]

Well, sounds like Clem will be perfect now to teach Sarah.

[GreyLycanTrope]

Serah is 15, she's not a child, she is a teenager. She's also living in a world now where age does not matter anymore, no one seemed to give Chuck a hard time when he gave Lee the hard truth and Lee taught Clem everything he knows, so why does Serah get an excuse? She's older and having a disability is a poor excuse.

She's a 15 year old who seemingly has a very severe form of an anxiety disorder and a dad who was well aware of that so he kept her sheltered. That's her excuse.

[Bugsie]

15 year olds vary greatly in maturity. 

 

It's obvious you don't know many 15 yo's or anyone who is a parent who's had to look after a disabled child (whether that's a 'visible' disability or not) so I'm not going to argue with you anymore.

[Mr.House]

15 year olds vary greatly in maturity. 

 

It's obvious you don't know many 15 yo's or anyone who is a parent who's had to look after a disabled child (whether that's a 'visible' disability or not) so I'm not going to argue with you anymore.

I have a disability, so before you act all high and mighty, know who you are talking too.

[Mr.House]

She's a 15 year old who seemingly has a very severe form of an anxiety disorder and a dad who was well aware of that so he kept her sheltered. That's her excuse.

Walkers don't care if you have a disability or not.

 

Chuck: You're either alive, or you're dead.

[CrazyRah]

Wonder how well the walkers will understand her excuse of not being able to do any defending of herself at all. Suppose we'll see

[Milan92]

I have a disability, so before you act all high and mighty, know who you are talking too.

 

But we don't live in a world with zombies, Josh. Its easy to say that because you got a disability that it automatically means everyone with a disability is like you. But thats not how things work.

[GreyLycanTrope]

Walkers don't care if you have a disability or not.

 

Chuck: You're either alive, or you're dead.

Yeah that stiff upper lip attitude can only take you so far. You can't just will that stuff away, not anymore than you can will away a severed limb. Sarah's case would require her dad likely working with her for months to over come her problem, that's not something she had.

[Bugsie]

I have a disability, so before you act all high and mighty, know who you are talking too.

And so do I.  What's your point?

 

You are needlessly hostile.

[Mr.House]

Yeah that stiff upper lip attitude can only take you so far. You can't just will that stuff away, not anymore than you can will away a severed limb.

Surviving should be everyone main concern in TWD world. You're not going to survive if you try to hold to old world ideals, we have seen what happens if you do.

[GreyLycanTrope]

Surviving should be everyone main concern in TWD world. You're not going to survive if you try to hold to old world ideals, we have seen what happens if you do.

It's not an ideal, it's a matter of training to learn to over come you short comings, more so if you have a condition. Even Clem didn't start out a bad ass.

 

Outside of Clem no one has been teaching Sarah to be self reliant. You're expecting her to know things she hasn't been taught.