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[dragondreamer]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

dragondreamer wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

dragondreamer wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Again the child is male secondly the child is human if the Warden was a HN/HM or female
The only Human/Elf child we've seen is human even with an Elven mother so having an Elven father is irrelevant the child is human.
It's unknown if Dwarves are fertile with humans but most likely the child's race would be largely dependent on it's mother's while inheriting some characteristics from it's father's so mostly human.

Thus The OGB can't be the Inquisitor.

Thus a world full of mystery and magic where the plot can be made to fit whatever the writers feel like doing means we don't know anything.

We do if they remain consistent with what they've shown us in the previous titles and don't ignore biology. 

Thedosian biology is wonky to begin with.  Considering that elf-blooded children turn out human for supposedly magical reasons, I imagine hypothetical magical reasons could also make one turn out elven.  We have no biology book that explains what an Old God soul does to a child. And the only character in canon rumored to be a half-dwarf (Sandal) looks like a dwarf.

That was actually explained via human genes being stronger*dominant?* than Elven*recessive?*.According to Morrigan nothing.*granted her knowledge is limited*
If his father's human and mother a Dwarf that would explain that.*ofcourse the reverse would validate you*

It wasn't actually explained that way.  And Morrigan tells you next to nothing, or half-truths, which is what she typically does.  And we don't know who Sandal's parents are, and there's nothing else to give a precedent for what half-dwarves would look like under any circumstances.  

[Shadow Fox]

dragondreamer wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

dragondreamer wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

dragondreamer wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Again the child is male secondly the child is human if the Warden was a HN/HM or female
The only Human/Elf child we've seen is human even with an Elven mother so having an Elven father is irrelevant the child is human.
It's unknown if Dwarves are fertile with humans but most likely the child's race would be largely dependent on it's mother's while inheriting some characteristics from it's father's so mostly human.

Thus The OGB can't be the Inquisitor.

Thus a world full of mystery and magic where the plot can be made to fit whatever the writers feel like doing means we don't know anything.

We do if they remain consistent with what they've shown us in the previous titles and don't ignore biology. 

Thedosian biology is wonky to begin with.  Considering that elf-blooded children turn out human for supposedly magical reasons, I imagine hypothetical magical reasons could also make one turn out elven.  We have no biology book that explains what an Old God soul does to a child. And the only character in canon rumored to be a half-dwarf (Sandal) looks like a dwarf.

That was actually explained via human genes being stronger*dominant?* than Elven*recessive?*.According to Morrigan nothing.*granted her knowledge is limited*
If his father's human and mother a Dwarf that would explain that.*ofcourse the reverse would validate you*

It wasn't actually explained that way.  And Morrigan tells you next to nothing, or half-truths, which is what she typically does.  And we don't know who Sandal's parents are, and there's nothing else to give a precedent for what half-dwarves would look like under any circumstances.  

I suppose you're right.

[hellreaper2021]

what if the ogb grows at an accelerated rate because he/she has the soul of the old god, that and who knows what morrigan could teach him. so for all we know he could be ten years old with knowledge far beyond his years.and who knows where morrigan went in awakening, and if time passed quickly where she was.but thats just a thought, i just hope that the ending satisfies everyone, i dont want to hear people complaining for a year about it lol so that being said the inquisitor could be the ogb

[xnode]

To much thought into the child to be honest, if it was such a "plot interest" we would have had no choice in the matter. It's a side plot and one that doesn't even follow cannon, I doubt we will see anything significant come of it. I have no doubt mention of it will occur to satisfy those that just have to know, but it might not even happen during this release and when and if it does, I believe it will be minor being it was a choice that many didn't have to make.

Probably ends up having something to do with the mirrors, if the child happens that event opens the mirror taking the child with it or with no child *insert random reason here from some other subplot.

Modifié par xnode, 22 août 2013 - 04:39 .

[Spectre slayer]

There is no chance that the old god baby who is a gender locked male and only 11-13 years old is not going to be the inquisitor for many reasons.

1. He's not their canon which is Dailish warden ultimate sacrifice which means no ritual=no god baby

2. He's gender locked as male and only 11-13 years old and grows at a normal rate.

3. We can chose our characters gender and there are no choseable backgrounds rather they are pre set based on your race+gender+class combination 

4. It's was always supposed to be a new character

5. Player choice, not everyone decided to do the ritual 

So ask yourselves how can a gender locked 12-13 year old male character be the inquisitor when he's not their canon, we can choose the characters gender and not everyone choose to to the ritual and the answer should be obvious he can't.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 04 novembre 2013 - 03:49 .

[TimeMaster98]

***SPOILERS*** There are good ways to include him, he could be a companion, he could be like that data for the genophage and ending up saving someone in the game, he could help the mages and be a great asset to them, he could end up being the military leader of the Mage cause or if you didn't do the ritual then anders and if you got rid of anders it could be justice (he survived dying before, he can survive that, there were a lot of corpses around if you killed anders) and if you got the
OGB then justice can be included in a smaller way.

OGB can do some stuff, I just pray to the maker that Bioware do this and not ruin him. He can be a big part but not like save the world big part, more like save crap loads of people and save your life at the end of one of the games like US Alistair.

He was said to be a symbol for freedom and all these things involve freedom so DR guys will get what they payed for.

Modifié par TimeMaster98, 04 novembre 2013 - 11:42 .

[Spectre slayer]

TimeMaster98 wrote...

***SPOILERS*** There are good ways to include him, he could be a companion, he could be like that data for the genophage and ending up saving someone in the game, he could help the mages and be a great asset to them, he could end up being the military leader of the Mage cause or if you didn't do the ritual then anders and if you got rid of anders it could be justice (he survived dying before, he can survive that, there were a lot of corpses around if you killed anders) and if you got the OGB then justice can be included in a smaller way.

OGB can do some stuff, I just pray to the maker that Bioware do this and not ruin him. He can be a big part but not like save the world big part, more like save crap loads of people and save your life at the end of one of the games like US Alistair.

He was said to be a symbol for freedom and all these things involve freedom so DR guys will get what they payed for.

Seriously the old god baby will not be a companion nor will he be playable, if you bothered to read my previous post you would know that the child is only 11-13 years old which is how long they said the game will take place after the blight and to be more specific they said over 10 and one source said 13 years.

The companions are pretty much locked in and being written as we speak also there's only 9 of them and neither of them will be Anders or the Old god baby which I guarantee won't happen.

Again how can a male 11-13 year old gender locked, not bioware's canon, players can choose not to do it, the answer is obvious and simple the ogb will not be playable at all if he appears in DAI in a small role or mention at best,

[The Xand]

Spectre slayer wrote...

There is no chance that the old god baby who is a gender locked male and only 11-13 years old is not going to be the inquisitor for many reasons.

1. He's not their canon which is Dailish warden ultimate sacrifice which means no ritual=no god baby

2. He's gender locked as male and only 11-13 years old and grows at a normal rate.

3. We can chose our characters gender and there are no choseable backgrounds rather they are pre set based on your race+gender+class combination 

4. It's was always supposed to be a new character

5. Player choice, not everyone decided to do the ritual 

So ask yourselves how can a gender locked 12-13 year old male character be the inquisitor when he's not their canon, we can choose the characters gender and not everyone choose to to the ritual and the answer should be obvious he can't.

You're aware that Alistair is king now and married Anora? That was the canonical ending, despite the player choices.

The child could be as old as they want it to be depending on how far they set the game from DA:O.

Lkewise the child could be either gender since we're not even sure what gender Urthemiel was nor if it even applies after the ritual.

[Spectre slayer]

The Xand wrote...

Spectre slayer wrote...

There is no chance that the old god baby who is a gender locked male and only 11-13 years old is not going to be the inquisitor for many reasons.

1. He's not their canon which is Dailish warden ultimate sacrifice which means no ritual=no god baby

2. He's gender locked as male and only 11-13 years old and grows at a normal rate.

3. We can chose our characters gender and there are no choseable backgrounds rather they are pre set based on your race+gender+class combination 

4. It's was always supposed to be a new character

5. Player choice, not everyone decided to do the ritual 

So ask yourselves how can a gender locked 12-13 year old male character be the inquisitor when he's not their canon, we can choose the characters gender and not everyone choose to to the ritual and the answer should be obvious he can't.

You're aware that Alistair is king now and married Anora? That was the canonical ending, despite the player choices.

The child could be as old as they want it to be depending on how far they set the game from DA:O.

Lkewise the child could be either gender since we're not even sure what gender Urthemiel was nor if it even applies after the ritual.

Yes i'm aware of that but their own canon will not over ride ours, so the only way that Alistair is King is if we choose the world state or use the default, if not Alistair is either a drunken exile or a warden, or dead.

Like I said they've already confirmed that it's over 10 years after the blight and only a couple years after DA2 interrogation which is in 9:40 Dragon, so it's sometime after that which is confirme, 

Wrong Urethemil is male and so are the other old gods, wrong again the child is confirmed to be male in witch hunt and if you don't know why then

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 05 novembre 2013 - 05:03 .

[The Xand]

Spectre slayer wrote...

The Xand wrote...

Spectre slayer wrote...

There is no chance that the old god baby who is a gender locked male and only 11-13 years old is not going to be the inquisitor for many reasons.

1. He's not their canon which is Dailish warden ultimate sacrifice which means no ritual=no god baby

2. He's gender locked as male and only 11-13 years old and grows at a normal rate.

3. We can chose our characters gender and there are no choseable backgrounds rather they are pre set based on your race+gender+class combination 

4. It's was always supposed to be a new character

5. Player choice, not everyone decided to do the ritual 

So ask yourselves how can a gender locked 12-13 year old male character be the inquisitor when he's not their canon, we can choose the characters gender and not everyone choose to to the ritual and the answer should be obvious he can't.

You're aware that Alistair is king now and married Anora? That was the canonical ending, despite the player choices.

The child could be as old as they want it to be depending on how far they set the game from DA:O.

Lkewise the child could be either gender since we're not even sure what gender Urthemiel was nor if it even applies after the ritual.

Yes i'm aware of that but their own canon will not over ride ours, so the only way that Alistair is King is if we choose the world state or use the default, if not Alistair is either a drunken exile or a warden, or dead.

Like I said they've already confirmed that it's over 10 years after the blight and only a couple years after DA2 interrogation which is in 9:40 Dragon, and in 9:41 is the events of the comics also during those years Varic and Cassandra also started to work together.

Wrong Urethemil is male and so are the other old gods, wrong again the child is confirmed to be male in witch hunt and if you don't know why then

Did you actually just claim that Bioware canon isn't official? David Gaider has unequivocally claimed that Alistair is king.

And they claimed it *starts* then, that doesn't mean they won't flash pretty substantially into the future a la Dragon Age 2's leap years.

Oh, you're wrong about the gender of the Old Gods as well. Nobody knows for sure what gender they are.

The child being male in Witch Hunt means nothing and you've cited no proof that it even is male. Notice how the elves and darkspawn look different in the sequel? Yeah. They change things now and again to make the game better (or that's the theory, because the darkspawn now look just awful). So the child wouldn't be gender locked if it was a playable character.

You need to start thinking outside the box, my son.

Modifié par The Xand, 04 novembre 2013 - 05:04 .

[Shark17676]

The Xand wrote...

Did you actually just claim that Bioware canon isn't official? David Gaider has unequivocally claimed that Alistair is king.

To be fair, the Devs have stated that they want all that to be considered "default" canon rather than "official" canon, in order for the players to feel that their own canon is official.

If anything, the story that Bioware has put forth is just a telling of their own playthrough of the series.  I most certainly can see the argument that, "Well, for all intents and purposes, that is official canon."  But even so, the Devs don't want us to look at it that way.

[Spectre slayer]

[quote]The Xand wrote...

[quote]Spectre slayer wrote...

[quote]The Xand wrote...

[quote]Spectre slayer wrote...

There is no chance that the old god baby who is a gender locked male and only 11-13 years old is not going to be the inquisitor for many reasons.

1. He's not their canon which is Dailish warden ultimate sacrifice which means no ritual=no god baby

2. He's gender locked as male and only 11-13 years old and grows at a normal rate.

3. We can chose our characters gender and there are no choseable backgrounds rather they are pre set based on your race+gender+class combination 

4. It's was always supposed to be a new character

5. Player choice, not everyone decided to do the ritual 

So ask yourselves how can a gender locked 12-13 year old male character be the inquisitor when he's not their canon, we can choose the characters gender and not everyone choose to to the ritual and the answer should be obvious he can't.
[/quote]

You're aware that Alistair is king now and married Anora? That was the canonical ending, despite the player choices.

The child could be as old as they want it to be depending on how far they set the game from DA:O.

Lkewise the child could be either gender since we're not even sure what gender Urthemiel was nor if it even applies after the ritual.
[/quote]

Yes i'm aware of that but their own canon will not over ride ours, so the only way that Alistair is King is if we choose the world state or use the default, if not Alistair is either a drunken exile or a warden, or dead.

Like I said they've already confirmed that it's over 10 years after the blight and only a couple years after DA2 interrogation which is in 9:40 Dragon, and in 9:41 is the events of the comics also during those years Varic and Cassandra also started to work together.

Wrong Urethemil is male and so are the other old gods, wrong again the child is confirmed to be male in witch hunt and if you don't know why then

[/quote]

Did you actually just claim that Bioware canon isn't official? David Gaider has unequivocally claimed that Alistair is king.

And they claimed it *starts* then, that doesn't mean they won't flash pretty substantially into the future a la Dragon Age 2's leap years.

Oh, you're wrong about the gender of the Old Gods as well. Nobody knows for sure what gender they are.

The child being male in Witch Hunt means nothing and you've cited no proof that it even is male. Notice how the elves and darkspawn look different in the sequel? Yeah.

They change things now and again to make the game better (or that's the theory, because the darkspawn now look just awful). So the child wouldn't be gender locked if it was a playable character.

You need to start thinking outside the box, my son.

[/quote]

You do realize that's what they said right not what i'm claming, Bioware has their own canon and we make our own, which is what they stated numerous times so where do you get your ideas from.

[quote]To be fair, the Devs have stated that they want all that to be considered "default" canon rather than "official" canon, in order for the players to feel that their own canon is official.

If anything, the story that Bioware has put forth is just a telling of their own playthrough of the series. 

I most certainly can see the argument that, "Well, for all intents and purposes, that is official canon."  But even so, the Devs don't.[/quote]

That's exactly what I'm talking about by their own statements their canon =/= ours nor does theirs override ours, also xand's wrong yet again since Gaider came out and said this here on bsn.

[quote]Alistair being King of Ferelden is not "canon", as in it does not affect the choices you made in your game nor override them. The comic is a tale based on one possible version of the game world... as it would need to be, being a comic book and not a video game, and thus unable to react to game decisions[/quote] 
http://social.biowar.../index/12948996



[quote]
We have a default canon, which applies if you import nothing. So if someone comes to DAI with no import of previous games, they get a certain set of previous decisions being presumed-- and those tend to be ones that don't promise future content. 

And if your version of the definition of canon is "it overrides my previous story", then rest assured that will not happen. The story may not go exactly as you want/expect (as in Leliana being alive, if you killed her in DAO), but that's not the same as those previous actions being treated as if they never happened at all.

If we ever decide to move Dragon Age over to one canonical story in-between games, I'm almost positive we would give lots of advance notice to allow fans time to rend garments, burn effigies, and send cupcakes.

Until that point, just wait for news on the import feature.[/quote] David Gaider 

social.bioware.com/%20http:/social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/371/index/17179465


Lol here's this from Laidlaw on his Twitter.
[quote]@Mike_Laidlaw isn't Alistair alive no matter what?3:32am - 20 Oct 13[/quote]
[quote]@kunikos Nope. Could have been the one to killing blow the archdemon.10:10am - 20 Oct 13[/quote]
mobile.twitter.com/Mike_Laidlaw/status/391699100560674817


[quote]@kunikos Nah. If Alistair’s dead and Anora’s queen, we can support that in sequels.11:07am - 20 Oct 13[/quote]
mobile.twitter.com/Mike_Laidlaw/status/391943823141527553
Lol what was that again king no matter what lmao

[quote] All possible outcomes in the game are equally "valid", and there's no single canon that outside media are drawing from-- yet, anyhow, though that could work quite well if we wanted to do it that way.

So long as the stories told in comics or novels don't override your choices in future games, I'm uncertain of the source of anxiety regarding them.

The choices have continuuity between games because that's the only place where they can have it.

If someone's looking for their choices to be reflected in comics and novels, they're being a tad optimistic... while I imagine it might be nice to have your particular game story be the basis for such tales, it's simply not possible to cover all possibilities without simply avoiding all references to earlier characters/storylines altogether.[/quote] Same page as Gaider's last quote.

Again if we make a world state where Alistair sacrificed himself then he's dead and not king confirmed by Gaider and Laidlaw. If we make a world state and mary Anora and exile him he becomes a drunken exile, if we don't make him king then he stays with the warden.

They have their own canon which Gaider uses the term default canon for them to use to keep things straight on their end, to use in other media like the books, comics, future games in the series mainly  for new players and those who chose not to import.

So lol you're wrong again and not sure where you came up with that since Gaider himself contradicts whatever statement you made up or misunderstood.

[quote] @teleoverlord @davidgaider There will be a canon, yes. King, specifically. If that doesn't match your world consider it a "What If?"11:17pm - 15 Oct 11[/quote] 
mobile.twitter.com/Mike_Laidlaw/status/125409998804221953

Guess you're talking about this and seemed to misunderstand what it said since this makes it clear they have their own internal canon or default canon and consider theirs what if scenarios.

So no Alistair is not the King no matter what, despite what you claim even when the person who you claim said it disproved you. 


He's only king in their default storyline, the books and comics, for players who try to adhere to what biowares canon is or if we choose it.

Again Alistair is either King, Dead, Warden, Exile which are his fates to say otherwise is absurd and makes me laugh.

Wrong again they've already confirmed that the veil tear will start the game and we will pick up and play from there without time jumps.

They had a story to tell and from the very beginning they said the game would span ten years which it did and that's not in the cards for this game.

No they are all male but some people refuse to belive it for some reason, also the only one that was supposedly female was Zazikale but that was revealed to be a typo by Ben Gelias.

[quote]Although High Dragons are always female, all of the Old Gods, who have the forms of High Dragons, are male.[/quote]

[quote]@Nethalf That's an unfortunate typo on page 21. It's correct on page 147. Zazikel is male.3:58pm - 26 Jul 13[/quote]

The dialogue from witch hunt disagrees with you and guess you didn't pay attention Urethemil is male, you sleep with Morrigan, defeat him and his soul becomes the child's soul and again Morrigan says "He" do you think they just put it in for no reason or you don't understand how it works.

The non ritual child could probably be either gender, but even then he or she won't be old enough to be the inquisitor.

[quote]He is safe, and beyond your reach. All you need know is that the child is an innocent. He knows nothing of the destiny that lies before him.[/quote] Morrigan 



Lol you don't know me nor do you know how many different possibilities I think about nor my age, and that should be enough unless you want to continue.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 11 novembre 2013 - 02:22 .

[Br3admax]

 

Especially for something that is never going to happen. Bravo, good sirs! 

[Swaggerjking]

No

[9TailsFox]

Spectre slayer wrote...

There is no chance that the old god baby who is a gender locked male and only 11-13 years old is not going to be the inquisitor for many reasons.

1. He's not their canon which is Dailish warden ultimate sacrifice which means no ritual=no god baby

2. He's gender locked as male and only 11-13 years old and grows at a normal rate.

3. We can chose our characters gender and there are no choseable backgrounds rather they are pre set based on your race+gender+class combination 

4. It's was always supposed to be a new character

5. Player choice, not everyone decided to do the ritual 

So ask yourselves how can a gender locked 12-13 year old male character be the inquisitor when he's not their canon, we can choose the characters gender and not everyone choose to to the ritual and the answer should be obvious he can't.

1.You can create your own world state where OGB exist.
2. Morrigan: I sad he, I ment she. I would really like to see source where it show us time DO:I starts, and OGB grow normally.
3. Yes you can, and let say Warden Humen + Morrigan humen = OGB humen. You pick play as humen plot twist you OGB. So in some cases player character can be OGB.
4. Agen source. and yes you will be new character.
5.Read 3.
ansver obvious he can, but moust unlikly.it would be cool but i doubt bioware even consider it.

Modifié par 9TailsFox, 04 novembre 2013 - 05:57 .

[Spectre slayer]

9TailsFox wrote...

Spectre slayer wrote...
There is no chance that the old god baby who is a gender locked male and only 11-13 years old is not going to be the inquisitor for many reasons.

1. He's not their canon which is Dailish warden ultimate sacrifice which means no ritual=no god baby

2. He's gender locked as male and only 11-13 years old and grows at a normal rate.

3. We can chose our characters gender and there are no choseable backgrounds rather they are pre set based on your race+gender+class combination 

4. It's was always supposed to be a new character

5. Player choice, not everyone decided to do the ritual 

So ask yourselves how can a gender locked 12-13 year old male character be the inquisitor when he's not their canon, we can choose the characters gender and not everyone choose to to the ritual and the answer should be obvious he can't.

1.You can create your own world state where OGB exist.

2. Morrigan: I sad he, I ment she. I would really like to see source where it show us time DO:I starts, and OGB grow normally.

3. Yes you can, and let say Warden Humen + Morrigan humen = OGB humen. You pick play as humen plot twist you OGB. So in some cases player character can be OGB.

4. Agen source. and yes you will be new character.

5.Read 3.ansver obvious he can, but moust unlikly.it would be cool but i doubt bioware even consider it.

You're completely missing the point, if we don't do the ritual then there's no old god baby and the inquisitor has to be possible for everyone and that's not the case.

We can pick gender so no ogb, we can pick race for example qunari =no ogb.

This excerpt is from the gi cover story i'll even upload the image later.

Fereldan the setting from Dragon Age:Orgins, is still recovering from the darkspawn blight that ended over 10 year prior.

http://adl.m.yahoo.n...RYct7k4PVZCEw--

This is from Jonathan Perry

Dragon Age: Inquisition picks up following the events of the first two games. How far along the timeline is it and what kind of state do we find Thedas in?

I can't put a number on exactly how long has passed, but I can say it's shortly after [Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age II], so Varric and Cassandra are working together now, and there's certainly a story there, because they did interact during the story in Dragon Age II. But it is shortly after, and the state of the world, with this giant rift opening up in the sky

http://www.xbox360ac...estruction.html

He's 11-13 there's no evidence saying otherwise nor is there anything about time travel or that time flows differently.

New character means new character, the ogb is an existing character.

There are no orgins, we can't pick our backgrounds sorry but both are confirmed.

There is a need for leader of the Inquisition and, for reasons we won’t mention, your character becomes that leader. The Origin stories were really great, but as Mike Laidlaw said we will leave those stories for Origins as its own special thing. For Inquisition our reference point will be being the leader of this organisation

Jonathan Perry
http://www.gamerzine...-talking.html/2

There won’t be different origins, but all races will have their own unique pros and cons that can affect both gameplay and story. To be honest, I was fine with just humans but I know many others were extremely disappointed by the human only Dragon Age II.
http://www.forbes.co...tails-revealed/

Even so, no, there's no point in going over the backgrounds. What we have planned for the races has way more content, anyhow.

David Gaider 

Just to pop in:
You do not choose your background. Your race & class choice dictates your background, and this includes elven PC's.

We are not yet discussing what those are, however.

David Gaider 

They also mentioned that in their podcasts at nerd appropriate.

This is getting old just stop already the old god baby will not be the inquisitor, a companion, an antagonist or anything else and at best will get mentioned or find out what's going to happen with him.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 04 novembre 2013 - 11:58 .

[XMissWooX]

I highly doubt this would happen.
I mean, how would it work with a Qunari Inquisitor?

[9TailsFox]

 Spectre slayer. Thank you for source. And I not missing the point you most likely right. but you missing my point. Not all Inquisitors must be OGB only which is possible. So if you are qunary you not OGB but let's say if you human and father was human you are. But like I sad it most unlikely Not really worth for basically just human and not even all humans.

[Spectre slayer]

9TailsFox wrote...

 Spectre slayer. Thank you for source. And I not missing the point you most likely right. but you missing my point. Not all Inquisitors must be OGB only which is possible. So if you are qunary you not OGB but let's say if you human and father was human you are. But like I sad it most unlikely Not really worth for basically just human and not even all humans.

Yes you are missing the point and no i understand what you're trying to say but none of the inquisitors are going to be the old god baby. This has nothing to do with race with the exception of the Qunari since you could do the ritual with any race in DAO, i've done it with and elf and have a dwarven one going.

There are half breeds like Sandal who is 1/2 elven and 1/2 dwarven, Alistair is 1/2 human and 1/2 human, Feynriel is 1/2 Elven and Human, the ogb would be 1/2 your race and 1/2 human.

The point is this the Inquisitor is an entirety new character to the dragon age universe, whose gender we choose, who's background is tied to the race+gender+class combinations we choose, there are no orgins at all, the confirmed time rage is in between 11-13 and probably no more than 15 at the most, the inquisitor is an adult probably over 30.

Which means he or she was around before the ogb conception and this was the same problem that DA2 had even though it should have been obvious that the ogb wasn't going to be Hawke and he's obviously not going to be the inquisitor nor a companion.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 04 novembre 2013 - 10:02 .

[TimeMaster98]

Spector Slayer wrote...

TimeMaster98 wrote...

***SPOILERS*** There are good ways to include him, he could be a companion, he could be like that data for the genophage and ending up saving someone in the game, he could help the mages and be a great asset to them, he could end up being the military leader of the Mage cause or if you didn't do the ritual then anders and if you got rid of anders it could be justice (he survived dying before, he can survive that, there were a lot of corpses around if you killed anders) and if you got the OGB then justice can be included in a smaller way.

OGB can do some stuff, I just pray to the maker that Bioware knows this

Seriously the old god baby will not be a companion nor will he be playable, if you bothered to read my previous post you would know that the child is only 11-13 years old which is how long they said the game

I will take place after the blight and to be more specific they said over 10 and one source said 13 years.

The companions are pretty much locked in and being written as we speak also there's only 9 of them and neither of
them will be Anders or the Old god baby which I guarantee won't happen.

Again how can a male 11-13 year old gender locked, not bioware's canon, players can choose not to do it, the answer is obvious and simple the ogb will not be playable at all if he appears in DAI in a small role or mention at best

 
And who suddenly made you the expert on Bioware? No offense but unless you are mike laidlaw or David gaider then your "guarantees" are pointless. And who said it had to be inquisition, remember the 5 game plan, and the guy has got the soul of an old god, I'm pretty sure that he can do some stuff with that even at age 10. As I said, he can be
like new Alistair, important but not like everyone would die without him more like he'll take the shot at an archdemon type situation and I used the word OR not AND, what I said were, IMO, the only ways to include the OGB and also we might see some time skips like in DA2, I mean this is the MAGE WAR we are talking about, you can't tell me that wouldn't at least take a few years to gain influence and power, kill the dragons, take care of the mages and chantry, deal with hundreds of blood mages and deal with FLEMETH, who, if I remember correctly, could be literally ANYTHING and Dragon Age doesn't just throw the companions at you, remember Leliana? my very first game I didn't even know about her until my brother told me. If they could make the royal bastard prince a companion I'm pretty sure they can do the same thing with the OGB in hopefully one of the time skips

Modifié par TimeMaster98, 05 novembre 2013 - 01:15 .

[TimeMaster98]

Instead of hitting edit I was accidentally hitting quote so every edit was pretty much the same thing, I already reported them for broken content so they should be getting removed soon, I think

Modifié par TimeMaster98, 05 novembre 2013 - 01:19 .

[Spectre slayer]

***SPOILERS*** There are good ways to include him, he could be a companion, he could be like that data for the genophage and ending up saving someone in the game, he could help the mages and be a great asset to them, he could end up being the military leader of the Mage cause or if you didn't do the ritual then anders and if you got rid of anders it could be justice (he survived dying before, he can survive that, there were a lot of corpses around if you killed anders) and if you got the OGB then justice can be included in a smaller way.

OGB can do some stuff, I just pray to the maker that Bioware knows this
endquote

Seriously the old god baby will not be a companion nor will he be playable, if you bothered to read my previous post you would know that the child is only 11-13 years old which is how long they said the game
I will take place after the blight and to be more specific they said over 10 and one source said 13 years.
endquote

The companions are pretty much locked in and being written as we speak also there's only 9 of them and neither of
them will be Anders or the Old god baby which I guarantee won't happen.

Again how can a male 11-13 year old gender locked, not bioware's canon, players can choose not to do it, the answer is obvious and simple the ogb will not be playable at all if he appears in DAI in a small role or mention at best,k

 

And who suddenly made you the expert on Bioware? No offense but unless you are mike laidlaw or David gaider then your "guarantees" are pointless. And who said it had to be inquisition, remember the 5 game plan, and the guy has got the soul of an old god. I'm pretty sure that he can do some stuff with that even at age 10.

As I said, he can be like new Alistair, important but not like everyone would die without him more like he'll take the shot at an archdemon type situation and I used the word OR not AND, what I said were, IMO, the only ways to include the OGB and also we might see some time skips like in DA2.

I mean this is the MAGE WAR we are talking about, you can't tell me that wouldn't at least take a few years to gain influence and power, kill the dragons, take care of the mages and chantry, deal with hundreds of blood mages and deal with FLEMETH, who, if I remember correctly, could be literally ANYTHING and Dragon Age doesn't just throw the companions at you, remember Leliana? my very first game I didn't even know about her until my brother told me. If they could make the royal bastard prince a companion I'm pretty sure they can do the same thing with the OGB in hopefully one of the time skips.

This thread is about Inquisition and bioware already stated that it's going to be a new character in every game and no i'm not ruling him about as a companion in future games rather this game since he's just a child and you're wrong age does matter do you think Leliana is young or any of the other companions were under the age of 20. Nope all of them are over 20 in Dao Alistair was 20 years old according to wot, and the others are older than him.

Since I'm in a sharing mood, I will put this out there: our intention is that for each major release of Dragon Age, you will take up the mantle of a new character. This does not mean your old character may never appear in future games, but as far as the core protagonist goes, if there is a DA III, it will very likely be neither Hawke nor The Warden.
We want to keep the series about the time and place, rather than about any singular character. While I know not everyone prefers that approach, I believe it's perfectly valid, especially if certain plans of ours to shore up world consistency (import bugs really bother me!) come to fruition, which I believe they will.
And that's all I can say about that.

 

He won't be a companion and those are fixed and being written as we speak right now there's 9 of them, they won't do a time skip in DAI that was a story telling technique used to tell a specific story and i'll try to find the link to it.

Why are you taking this so seriously it's just a video game character that was basically just a way to let our wardens live and possibly have an important role in the series future when he's old enough to actually do something, and the five game plan doesn't actually exist Laidlaw already said he misspoke and I quote" There's no limited amount of games planned for the series but there's an arc" So we don't know how many games there will be

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 05 novembre 2013 - 01:35 .

[TimeMaster98]

[quote]Spectre slayer wrote...

[quote]TimeMaster98 wrote...

[quote]Spectre slayer wrote...

[quote]TimeMaster98 wrote...

***SPOILERS*** There are good ways to include him, he could be a companion, he could be like that data for the genophage and ending up saving someone in the game, he could help the mages and be a great asset to them, he could end up being the military leader of the Mage cause or if you didn't do the ritual then anders and if you got rid of anders it could be justice (he survived dying before, he can survive that, there were a lot of corpses around if you killed anders) and if you got the OGB then justice can be included in a smaller way.

OGB can do some stuff, I just pray to the maker that Bioware knows this
endquote

Seriously the old god baby will not be a companion nor will he be playable, if you bothered to read my previous post you would know that the child is only 11-13 years old which is how long they said the game
I will take place after the blight and to be more specific they said over 10 and one source said 13 years.
endquote

The companions are pretty much locked in and being written as we speak also there's only 9 of them and neither of
them will be Anders or the Old god baby which I guarantee won't happen.

Again how can a male 11-13 year old gender locked, not bioware's canon, players can choose not to do it, the answer is obvious and simple the ogb will not be playable at all if he appears in DAI in a small role or mention at best,k

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And who suddenly made you the expert on Bioware? No offense but unless you are mike laidlaw or David gaider then your "guarantees" are pointless. And who said it had to be inquisition, remember the 5 game plan, and the guy has got the soul of an old god. I'm pretty sure that he can do some stuff with that even at age 10.

As I said, he can be like new Alistair, important but not like everyone would die without him more like he'll take the shot at an archdemon type situation and I used the word OR not AND, what I said were, IMO, the only ways to include the OGB and also we might see some time skips like in DA2.

I mean this is the MAGE WAR we are talking about, you can't tell me that wouldn't at least take a few years to gain influence and power, kill the dragons, take care of the mages and chantry, deal with hundreds of blood mages and deal with FLEMETH, who, if I remember correctly, could be literally ANYTHING and Dragon Age doesn't just throw the companions at you, remember Leliana? my very first game I didn't even know about her until my brother told me. If they could make the royal bastard prince a companion I'm pretty sure they can do the same thing with the OGB in hopefully one of the time skips
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This thread is about Inquisition and bioware already stated that it's going to be a new character in every game and no i'm not ruling him about as a companion in future games rather this game since he's just a child and you're wrong age does matter do you think Leliana is young or any of the other companions were under the age of 20. Nope all of them are over 20 in Dao Alistair was 20 years old according to wot, and the others are older than him.

He won't be a companion and those are fixed and being written as we speak right now there's 9 of them, they won't do a time skip in DAI that was a story telling technique used to tell a specific story and i'll try to find the link to it.

Why are you taking this so seriously it's just a video game character that was basically just a way to let our wardens live and possibly have an important role in the series future when he's old enough to actually do something, and the five game plan doesn't actually exist Laidlaw already said he misspoke and I quote" There's no limited amount of games planned for the series but there's an arc" So we don't know how many games there will be

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from what I've seen, and I just looked up "dragon age inquisition time skips" and found nothing against inquisition time skips and I'm not mad, you're the one being negative about the OGB when I just gave you several things he could do and I have no education in writing so I'm pretty sure David Gaider has already come up with or some guy watching the Bioware social boards told him, either way, he knows and you're completely missing the point, I didn't say age doesn't matter, I said that if you did the DR he could be a POSSIBLE companion, you're acting like all companions are mandatory

He could still be important without being in the fighting, Like Connor from Origins or Arl Eamon and bringing up the age thing, yes, it matters but not in this case, remember who the mother is? Morrigan, and what was morrigan doing when she was 10? Oh that's right, leading Templars to their death and learning magic, and he has the help of the knowledge of flemeths black grimour and the soul of an old god and at the end of Witch Hunt she says that she's preparing him and he's had 7 or 8 years of this preparing, he's gotta be able to do something in terms of offensiveness

[Spectre slayer]

[quote]***SPOILERS*** There are good ways to include him, he could be a companion, he could be like that data for the genophage and ending up saving someone in the game, he could help the mages and be a great asset to them, he could end up being the military leader of the Mage cause or if you didn't do the ritual then anders and if you got rid of anders it could be justice (he survived dying before, he can survive that, there were a lot of corpses around if you killed anders) and if you got the OGB then justice can be included in a smaller way.

OGB can do some stuff, I just pray to the maker that Bioware knows this
endquote

Seriously the old god baby will not be a companion nor will he be playable, if you bothered to read my previous post you would know that the child is only 11-13 years old which is how long they said the game
I will take place after the blight and to be more specific they said over 10 and one source said 13 years.
endquote

The companions are pretty much locked in and being written as we speak also there's only 9 of them and neither of
them will be Anders or the Old god baby which I guarantee won't happen.

Again how can a male 11-13 year old gender locked, not bioware's canon, players can choose not to do it, the answer is obvious and simple the ogb will not be playable at all if he appears in DAI in a small role or mention at best,k

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[quote]:kissing:And who suddenly made you the expert on Bioware? No offense but unless you are mike laidlaw or David gaider then your "guarantees" are pointless. And who said it had to be inquisition, remember the 5 game plan, and the guy has got the soul of an old god. I'm pretty sure that he can do some stuff with that even at age 10.

As I said, he can be like new Alistair, important but not like everyone would die without him more like he'll take the shot at an archdemon type situation and I used the word OR not AND, what I said were, IMO, the only ways to include the OGB and also we might see some time skips like in DA2.

I mean this is the MAGE WAR we are talking about, you can't tell me that wouldn't at least take a few years to gain influence and power, kill the dragons, take care of the mages and chantry, deal with hundreds of blood mages and deal with FLEMETH, who, if I remember correctly, could be literally ANYTHING and Dragon Age doesn't just throw the companions at you, remember Leliana? my very first game I didn't even know about her until my brother told me. If they could make the royal bastard prince a companion I'm pretty sure they can do the same thing with the OGB in hopefully one of the time skips
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This thread is about Inquisition and bioware already stated that it's going to be a new character in every game and no i'm not ruling him about as a companion in future games rather this game since he's just a child and you're wrong age does matter do you think Leliana is young or any of the other companions were under the age of 20. Nope all of them are over 20 in Dao Alistair was 20 years old according to wot, and the others are older than him.

He won't be a companion and those are fixed and being written as we speak right now there's 9 of them, they won't do a time skip in DAI that was a story telling technique used to tell a specific story and i'll try to find the link to it.

Why are you taking this so seriously it's just a video game character that was basically just a way to let our wardens live and possibly have an important role in the series future when he's old enough to actually do something, and the five game plan doesn't actually exist Laidlaw already said he misspoke and I quote" There's no limited amount of games planned for the series but there's an arc" So we don't know how many games there will be

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[quote]from what I've seen, and I just looked up "dragon age inquisition time skips" and found nothing against inquisition time skips and I'm not mad, you're the one being negative about the OGB when I just gave you several things he could do.

I have no education in writing so I'm pretty sure David Gaider has already come up with or some guy watching the Bioware social boards told him, either way, he knows and you're completely missing the point, I didn't say age doesn't matter, I said that if you did the DR he could be a POSSIBLE companion, you're acting like all companions are mandatory

He could still be important without being in the fighting, Like Connor from Origins or Arl Eamon and bringing up the age thing, yes, it matters but not in this case, remember who the mother is? Morrigan, and what was morrigan doing when she was 10? Oh that's right, leading Templars to their death and learning magic, and he has the help of the knowledge of flemeths black grimour and the soul of an old god and at the end of Witch Hunt she says that she's preparing him and he's had 7 or 8 years of this preparing, he's gotta be able to do something in terms of offensiveness
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I'm not being negative i'm being realistic and using everything they've said to disprove that he'll be a companion or the inquisitor, and no I didn't say you had to recruit everyone in fact you don't, but if you don't recruit them the number of companions decrease by whatever number you refuse to recruit.

There won't be any more than 9 companions in the base game if you don't recruit them you get less of them and won't just get one randomly because you think so or did the ritual, if you don't recruit someone from either DAO or DA2 then you don't get a replacement for them and that's how it's been.

A full list of companions has not yet been released, but the cast has been “set in stone.” this is from June of this year.
http://www.tacticalg.../dragon-age-inq

Do you not understand how that works and they've come out and the cast is set in stone according to that link, Gaider's writing the companion now and if I remember correctly he's on 3/9.

Most of the companions in DAI will probably be over 30-50 for example Cassandra in he 30's to early 40's dedepending on how old she was in dawn of the seeker which is confirmed to take place in 9:22 dragon by Gaider which is 18-20 years from Dai so if she was 18 then she's 36-38, if she was 20 then she's 40-42 years old. 
r2smuse.tumblr.com/post/42241901684/reblogging-for-reference-dawn-of-the-seeker


I didn't say he won't be important in the series I said he won't be the inquisitor or a companion, as for him actually doing something in DAI who knows he's still very young and we don't know what his abilities are nor do we know how well he can use or control them. Also Derrah said there won't be a framed narrative or a story that spans that long of time frame or use big time skips.

[quote]
"Not a steampunk setting -Still in the Dragon Age so no huge time jumps -no gryphon riding (sorry) -not a framed narrative ".

"Da2 had Varric as a narrator telling the entire story (like Princess Bride) DA3 doesn't do that".[/quote] social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/371/index/14982408/3

(They screwed up the link so if you want to go back a year to find it on Derrah's Twitter then good luck.)

Did you forget DAO and DAOA only took place over 1.5 years so why do you think this story will take a long time just because of how much content they pack, also wot confirms that Morrigan goes through the Eluvuain in 9:32 dragon one year after the blight so DAO-Witch Hunt 2 years.

9:30 Dragon Blight starts
9:31 Dragon Blight ends and the mother is killed
9:32 Dragon Morrigan uses the Eluvian 
All confirmed 

The webs a big place the narrative thing is from a year ago and i'm still searching for the ones i'm talking about and don't remember where exactly I heard or saw it since I didn't bookmark the link but found that above which should do until I find more.

[quote]
Since I'm in a sharing mood, I will put this out there: our intention is that for each major release of Dragon Age, you will take up the mantle of a new character. This does not mean your old character may never appear in future games, but as far as the core protagonist goes, if there is a DA III, it will very likely be neither Hawke nor The Warden.

We want to keep the series about the time and place, rather than about any singular character. While I know not everyone prefers that approach, I believe it's perfectly valid, especially if certain plans of ours to shore up world consistency (import bugs really bother me!) come to fruition, which I believe they will.[/quote]Mike Laidlaw

It's not about one character nor will the series ever be about one character, also they don't have to give him a big role just because some people think so and don't have to please everyone since not everyone will be happy with what they do nor should they try to.

Sigh why are you pushing this so far, we have no idea what they have planned for him in the future but I don't expect him to have a big role in DAI and there's absolutely nothing stating that we will, also they even went as far to say he wasn't their canon.

As for the time flows faster argument hmm we'll see soon whether or not that's true or bs but even then it doesn't matter the inquisitor is over 30 fact meaning he or she was around a good 20 years before the ogb even exis

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 07 novembre 2013 - 04:33 .

[UC SIM]

Daralii wrote...

The child would be 8 in Inquisition.

I doubt Bioware is going to have us play as an 8-year old mass murderer.

I'm sick of seeing this, Do you know how time passes in the place Morrigan is? Its clearly not an easy place to get too. A Timezone that moved faster than the rest of Thedas might even be the reason she took the god baby there?

We just don't know. We simply can't know.