I wouldn't hold your breatheluvianix wrote...
Lord Aesir wrote...
This thread has articulated why I think DA4 will take place in Tevinter.
1) Qunari invasion 2) It gives the developers an excuse to leave the effects of DAI choices at arm's length as far as the Mage-Templar war and the political state of Southern Thedas.
Stop killing my dreams
I wanna see Minrathous in DAI!!!
Modifié par Dabrikishaw, 10 novembre 2013 - 12:06 .
DKJaigen wrote...
Furthermore every powerful magical tool you find in DAO and DA2 has the label : made in tevinter on it. Also the current nations have a problem maintaining the imperial road indicationg they have yet achieved the level of engineering the tevinters had
Dabrikishaw wrote...
I'm shocked at how little pages ther are in this thread compared to the "I support Templars" thread.
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Dabrikishaw wrote...
I'm shocked at how little pages ther are in this thread compared to the "I support Templars" thread.
Well i don't get why you are suprised ,no one sane would support mages in cynical setting and counting that there is no reason why any one would do that beyond being naive.
Can you point why anyone should support mages?eluvianix wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Dabrikishaw wrote...
I'm shocked at how little pages ther are in this thread compared to the "I support Templars" thread.
Well i don't get why you are suprised ,no one sane would support mages in cynical setting and counting that there is no reason why any one would do that beyond being naive.
Not even remotely true.
Dabrikishaw wrote...
That's exactly what happens in all the Templar support threads. So naturally I expected this Mage support thread to be even larger.
It's not that surprising. Many mage supporters tend to flock to the Templar support thread to support mages while the templar supporters tend to flock to the templar support thread to support templars.Dabrikishaw wrote...
I'm shocked at how little pages there are in this thread compared to the "I support Templars" thread.
Modifié par HiroVoid, 10 novembre 2013 - 12:15 .
And pray tell, what is so naive about supporting a minority that I can sympathize with rather than simply following the majority?TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Can you point why anyone should support mages?eluvianix wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Dabrikishaw wrote...
I'm shocked at how little pages ther are in this thread compared to the "I support Templars" thread.
Well i don't get why you are suprised ,no one sane would support mages in cynical setting and counting that there is no reason why any one would do that beyond being naive.
Not even remotely true.
HiroVoid wrote...
It's not that surprising. Many mage supporters tend to flock to the Templar support thread to support mages while the templar supporters tend to flock to the templar support thread to support templars.Dabrikishaw wrote...
I'm shocked at how little pages there are in this thread compared to the "I support Templars" thread.
Modifié par eluvianix, 10 novembre 2013 - 12:18 .
eluvianix wrote...
And pray tell, what is so naive about supporting a minority that I can sympathize with rather than simply following the majority?TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Can you point why anyone should support mages?eluvianix wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Dabrikishaw wrote...
I'm shocked at how little pages ther are in this thread compared to the "I support Templars" thread.
Well i don't get why you are suprised ,no one sane would support mages in cynical setting and counting that there is no reason why any one would do that beyond being naive.
Not even remotely true.
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
eluvianix wrote...
And pray tell, what is so naive about supporting a minority that I can sympathize with rather than simply following the majority?
It is naive like free tiger in cage saying "ooo poor little kitten i will free him im sure tiger will be grateful" *5 second later* "oh please don't eat me arrrhhh":lol:
You don't have to follow majority but if majority eats that means you will stop that would be stupid and same is supporting mages.
Modifié par Icy Magebane, 10 novembre 2013 - 12:29 .
Dabrikishaw wrote...
I'm shocked at how little pages there are in this thread compared to the "I support Templars" thread.
A Golden Dragon wrote...
Dabrikishaw wrote...
I'm shocked at how little pages there are in this thread compared to the "I support Templars" thread.
Same here, actually.
We actually added about 100+ pages there in the past two weeks. It got pretty heated.Icy Magebane wrote...
A Golden Dragon wrote...
Dabrikishaw wrote...
I'm shocked at how little pages there are in this thread compared to the "I support Templars" thread.
Same here, actually.
Meh... most of the mage supporters are just in that thread responding to the templar supporters. I assume they migrated there at one point and stayed put. This thread only got revived recently.
Im just saying how it will end and how it always ends but pretty much humans are monsters and will sacrifice another human for own benefit only thing that stop them from doing that are consequences and still often even despite them humans hurt other and you can read pretty much human history to see that.Icy Magebane wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
eluvianix wrote...
And pray tell, what is so naive about supporting a minority that I can sympathize with rather than simply following the majority?
It is naive like free tiger in cage saying "ooo poor little kitten i will free him im sure tiger will be grateful" *5 second later* "oh please don't eat me arrrhhh":lol:
You don't have to follow majority but if majority eats that means you will stop that would be stupid and same is supporting mages.
What I think is naive is believing oneself capable of absolutely predicting human behavior. Naive is ignoring all of the genetic and environmental factors that make up one's personality simply because the individual in question happens to be born with magic. This idea that all mages are killers is just plain unfair. Demonic possession, sure, I admit that's a problem. Assuming all mages will try to harm others even without being possessed, however, is unreasonable.
And now we have mages who can avoide consequences by rule might makes right pretty much like in tevinter even if some mages don't want hurt others they still are indifferent or can do nothing about that pretty much like humans act toward elves.Now demonic possesion what mages are fond and makes them even more unpredictable and capable destroying city.
That is a ridiculous analogy and completely unrealistic.TheKomandorShepard wrote...
eluvianix wrote...
And pray tell, what is so naive about supporting a minority that I can sympathize with rather than simply following the majority?TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Can you point why anyone should support mages?eluvianix wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Dabrikishaw wrote...
I'm shocked at how little pages ther are in this thread compared to the "I support Templars" thread.
Well i don't get why you are suprised ,no one sane would support mages in cynical setting and counting that there is no reason why any one would do that beyond being naive.
Not even remotely true.
It is naive like free tiger in cage saying "ooo poor little kitten i will free him im sure tiger will be grateful" *5 second later* "oh please don't eat me arrrhhh":lol:
You don't have to follow majority but if majority eats that means you will stop that would be stupid and same is supporting mages.
eluvianix wrote...
That is a ridiculous analogy and completely unrealistic.TheKomandorShepard wrote...
eluvianix wrote...
And pray tell, what is so naive about supporting a minority that I can sympathize with rather than simply following the majority?TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Can you point why anyone should support mages?eluvianix wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Dabrikishaw wrote...
I'm shocked at how little pages ther are in this thread compared to the "I support Templars" thread.
Well i don't get why you are suprised ,no one sane would support mages in cynical setting and counting that there is no reason why any one would do that beyond being naive.
Not even remotely true.
It is naive like free tiger in cage saying "ooo poor little kitten i will free him im sure tiger will be grateful" *5 second later* "oh please don't eat me arrrhhh":lol:
You don't have to follow majority but if majority eats that means you will stop that would be stupid and same is supporting mages.
You're a walking artillery platform subject to demonic possession?eluvianix wrote...
And pray tell, what is so naive about supporting a minority that I can sympathize with rather than simply following the majority?
1. That is a very sad look on life, to see only the bad in te human existence when there is also SO much GOOD. I am honestly sad to hear you say that.TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Im just saying how it will end and how it always ends but pretty much humans are monsters and will sacrifice another human for own benefit only thing that stop them from doing that are consequences and still often even despite them humans hurt other and you can read pretty much human history to see that.Icy Magebane wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
eluvianix wrote...
And pray tell, what is so naive about supporting a minority that I can sympathize with rather than simply following the majority?
It is naive like free tiger in cage saying "ooo poor little kitten i will free him im sure tiger will be grateful" *5 second later* "oh please don't eat me arrrhhh":lol:
You don't have to follow majority but if majority eats that means you will stop that would be stupid and same is supporting mages.
What I think is naive is believing oneself capable of absolutely predicting human behavior. Naive is ignoring all of the genetic and environmental factors that make up one's personality simply because the individual in question happens to be born with magic. This idea that all mages are killers is just plain unfair. Demonic possession, sure, I admit that's a problem. Assuming all mages will try to harm others even without being possessed, however, is unreasonable.
So we have unpredictable bastards who are very fond creating disasters whether they are abomnations ,
with good intentions or not and most peoples hate them by nature.Just see main quest in entire da most are caused by mage even if isn't abomination and practically zero good things done by mage.Choosing them is naive and even if you want them simple as army it is completly not worthy giving that magic isn't very useful , mages are fond becoming abomnation and even if not they can betray me they are small in number adding that i will have 3/4 thedas after me if i will help them.
Lord Aesir wrote...
You're a walking artillery platform subject to demonic possession?eluvianix wrote...
And pray tell, what is so naive about supporting a minority that I can sympathize with rather than simply following the majority?
I don't discount the validity of supporting mages, but I've never found any comparison or parallel with real minority groups to be compelling.
In broad strokes, I get that, but I don't think the sentiment really holds up. I mean, what marks mages is more than a matter of culture, descent, religion or skin color. What marks them is much more... objective? I'm not sure what term to use. They are the most powerful weapons in Thedas. They are dangerous. The degree of that danger has been argued ad nauseum and I have no desire to get into that discussion, but they are undeniably dangerous to an extent. To me, that just makes the paralell a bit too strained.eluvianix wrote...
Lord Aesir wrote...
You're a walking artillery platform subject to demonic possession?eluvianix wrote...
And pray tell, what is so naive about supporting a minority that I can sympathize with rather than simply following the majority?
I don't discount the validity of supporting mages, but I've never found any comparison or parallel with real minority groups to be compelling.
Not the abomination bit. I meant the feeling of being oppressed or looked down upon for something that you are born with, something that you cannot change.
They're not instinct-driven beasts, they have all of the same emotional and cognitive faculties as any human.TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Oh yes because mages are good hearted pure and loveable creatures oh wait
Connor , zathrian ,circle of mages , blood mages in denerim ,baroness ,velanna, tevinter , most mages in da 2 .
Modifié par Plaintiff, 10 novembre 2013 - 01:07 .
All I can say is: to each their own. Just because you might find it too strained does not mean that I cannot find that connection.Lord Aesir wrote...
In broad strokes, I get that, but I don't think the sentiment really holds up. I mean, what marks mages is more than a matter of culture, descent, religion or skin color. What marks them is much more... objective? I'm not sure what term to use. They are the most powerful weapons in Thedas. They are dangerous. The degree of that danger has been argued ad nauseum and I have no desire to get into that discussion, but they are undeniably dangerous to an extent. To me, that just makes the paralell a bit too strained.eluvianix wrote...
Lord Aesir wrote...
You're a walking artillery platform subject to demonic possession?eluvianix wrote...
And pray tell, what is so naive about supporting a minority that I can sympathize with rather than simply following the majority?
I don't discount the validity of supporting mages, but I've never found any comparison or parallel with real minority groups to be compelling.
Not the abomination bit. I meant the feeling of being oppressed or looked down upon for something that you are born with, something that you cannot change.
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