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[Hellion Rex]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Creating "healing" spells?

Where are you going with this?

[Afro_Explosion]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

I can picture Anders trying to have this conversation,he was so right.

This explains a lot

[Medhia Nox]

@Lord Raijin: That hardly matters - I saved Ferelden without resorting to self-mutilation or sacrifice.

@Rebel Wolf: I was just curious. You were saying how mages could do so much to heal people - I was wondering what you had done with your mage to be capable of healing.

I'd expect anyone to make the healing mage argument to be a Spirit Healer with full Creation to support their "claim".  Mages aren't forced to study certain spells - I am curious if this:  "Mages can do so much to help heal others." is for "those other mages" .

Note:  I was full Creation w/Anti-Magic Spirit and Glyphs/Hexes (hardly relevant, but I figured I'd add it)

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 15 décembre 2013 - 01:33 .

[Rebel Wolf]

Rotfl,I saved the freaking world.
That is what my mage did.
And I healed my companions even dorkistair until he died of course.
You don't need to be a spirit healer to heal anyway.

Modifié par Rebel Wolf, 15 décembre 2013 - 01:34 .

[TEWR]

eluvianix wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

This is how it should be.

The First Enchanter runs the Circle, Not the Chantry. The First Enchanter gives orders to the templars.

...that's EXACTLY how Tevinter came back to its strength, by giving the Mages control of the Templars (though they went about by first taking the Chantry).

And Irving does not command the Templars by himself. At best, he's so respected there that the Templars will consider his word synonymous with Gregoir's, but if Gregoir says anything they'll still follow him.

Well technically neither did those Templars have the means to retaliate either. Outside of some rare exceptions, like Lambert, by and large, Templars in Tevinter cannot counter magic.

IIRC, that was the result of the Magisters taking back their power and not something that was always true. The Templars weren't always powerless against magic, but when the Magisters took back power and controlled the Chantry -- and thus the lyrium -- they hindered the Tevinter Templars.

[Medhia Nox]

@Rebel Wolf: Any Warden saves the world - even those pitiful non-mages. That's hardly significant - and not the argument you had made for the usefulness of mages earlier.

And get off the floor man - you're acting Fade crazed.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 15 décembre 2013 - 01:34 .

[Rebel Wolf]

Saving the world isn't significant?
That was the exact point I made mages can heal and protect you don't need to be a spirit healer.
Wth is fade crazed?

Modifié par Rebel Wolf, 15 décembre 2013 - 01:37 .

[Medhia Nox]

Being a mage isn't significant in saving the world.  Warriors and Rogues can do it too.  Being a Warden is significant.

And how much of the world would your Primal Mage have torn apart? Useful to fight Darkspawn - but hardly relevant as a mage in peace time.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 15 décembre 2013 - 01:37 .

[SgtSteel91]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

IIRC, that was the result of the Magisters taking back their power and not something that was always true. The Templars weren't always powerless against magic, but when the Magisters took back power and controlled the Chantry -- and thus the lyrium -- they hindered the Tevinter Templars.

And Blood Magic. Don't forget Blood Magic.

[Rebel Wolf]

Gray wardens fight darkspawn always not just during blight.
There is no peace time for wardens.
plus I stated a lot of times that he had healing spells.

Modifié par Rebel Wolf, 15 décembre 2013 - 01:39 .

[Medhia Nox]

@SgtSteel91: Nah, evidently the Tevinter Magisters think blood magic is for those who can't do real magic.

[Hellion Rex]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Lord Raijin: That hardly matters - I saved Ferelden without resorting to self-mutilation or sacrifice.

@Rebel Wolf: I was just curious. You were saying how mages could do so much to heal people - I was wondering what you had done with your mage to be capable of healing.

I'd expect anyone to make the healing mage argument to be a Spirit Healer with full Creation to support their "claim".  Mages aren't forced to study certain spells - I am curious if this:  "Mages can do so much to help heal others." is for "those other mages" .

Gameplay wise, I never run a Spirit Healer or Creation healing mage because it is harder for me to keep track of party members and I always end up having them all end up dead somehow. And plus, it is much more fun to shoot lightning in a game for me. I always like my mage characters being in the thick of things. But if I had actually placed myself in Thedas, I would be a Spirit Healer fully versed in the healing arts. In my opinion, that would be infinitely more satsifactory to me. If I could heal, I really would not care about fire spells or shooting lightning. Being able to heal people, mundane or otherwise, would be worth the tradeoff. That is why the healing arts, and people like Wynne and Anders, always enthrall me.

[Lord Raijin]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Lord Raijin: That hardly matters - I saved Ferelden without resorting to self-mutilation or sacrifice.

I tend to play the game in a realistic sort of way. While in battle I simply cannot dig through my backpack to find a lyirum potion to give me a boost of mana. I need to do things quickly, and so I had to sacrifice my own life force through self-mutilation to keep casting my spells until my enemy is dead.

I do not use the life force of my companions. You be a blood mage, and use the art in a responsible way.

[Hellion Rex]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@SgtSteel91: Nah, evidently the Tevinter Magisters think blood magic is for those who can't do real magic.

Titus looked like he was doing pretty well with his blood magic.

Modifié par eluvianix, 15 décembre 2013 - 01:42 .

[Rebel Wolf]

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A SPIRIT HEALER TO HEAL PEOPLE.
It's like talking to a wall.

Modifié par Rebel Wolf, 15 décembre 2013 - 01:43 .

[Medhia Nox]

@eluvianix: "Wynne and Anders" - like scraping your nails on a chalk board to have them in the same sentence.

I do not think you (or I) are common in that aspect... I was trying to illuminate that point.

@Lord Raijin: I used Spellbloom. 

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 15 décembre 2013 - 01:44 .

[Hellion Rex]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

YOU DON"T HAVE TO BE A SPRIT HEALER TO HEAL PEOPLE.
It's like talking to a wall.

Are you done yelling?
But being a spirit healer sure as heck makes your healing arts a hell of a lot stronger.

[Rebel Wolf]

Yeah I agree,Anders is a glorious hero and Wynne is a self righteous chantry apologist.
But she was talking about healing all my mages did  that.

Modifié par Rebel Wolf, 15 décembre 2013 - 01:46 .

[Hellion Rex]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@eluvianix: "Wynne and Anders" - like scraping your nails on a chalk board to have them in the same sentence.

I was just referring to two examples of people who were VERY strong healers. I wasn't even referring to the character's personalities.

[Hellion Rex]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Yeah I agree,Anders is a glorious hero and Wynne is a self righteous chantry apologist.

Wynne was the only one who had her head on her shoulders. She did what she believed to be right.

[Medhia Nox]

@elvuianix: It's the difference between a triage center and a fully staffed hospital actually.

I know you like the bloody magics. I can't feel anything but disdain for it.

[Rebel Wolf]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@elvuianix: It's the difference between a triage center and a fully staffed hospital actually.

I know you like the bloody magics. I can't feel anything but disdain for it.

Yeah,you seem really judgemental.
A traige center or even a healer in a field can save lives.

[Hellion Rex]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@elvuianix: It's the difference between a triage center and a fully staffed hospital actually.

I know you like the bloody magics. I can't feel anything but disdain for it.

I am lost on your first analogy, sorry.

And yes, I do like some blood magic, merely as a means of giving and extra boost to my normal spells. But never for mind control or demon summoning, or their upper tier powers. Nothing could ever justify those in my mind.

[Afro_Explosion]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Yeah I agree,Anders is a glorious hero and Wynne is a self righteous chantry apologist.
But she was talking about healing all my mages did  that.

Anders and hero should never be in the same sentence, he is a deluded anarchist who purposely blows up a building full of innocent people to try and spark a war and failed in that regard

[Medhia Nox]

@Rebel Wolf: Oh, I am insanely judgmental.

One of my favorite pasttimes actually.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 15 décembre 2013 - 01:50 .