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[Rebel Wolf]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Rebel Wolf: Oh, I am insanely judgmental.

One of my favorite pasttimes actually.

I agree.

[Hellion Rex]

mx_keep13 wrote...


Anders and hero should never be in the same sentence, he is a deluded anarchist who purposely blows up a building full of innocent people to try and spark a war and failed in that regard

I think you are wrong on that last point. He most certainly did spark a war. Granted, it was a long time in coming, but he certainly added a crap ton of fuel to the fire.

[Medhia Nox]

@eluvianix: I have a terrible inconsistency however... I despise Spirits/Demons as much as I hate blood magic.

It makes Spirit Healer a very tricky discipline to reconcile.

[Rebel Wolf]

Building full of innocent people...
You mean the chantry that only had a few sisters every single time you were there?

[Hellion Rex]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@eluvianix: I have a terrible inconsistency however... I despise Spirits/Demons as much as I hate blood magic.

It makes Spirit Healer a very tricky discipline to reconcile.

True. As a Spirit Healer, you walk a VERY fine line. Such powerful healing has its risks, as does any magic. You certainly have be aware of potential costs versus the potential benefits when practicing that kind of magic.

[Medhia Nox]

Oh, well - it was ONLY a few sisters.

And the burning streets... and the hundred ton chunks of Chantry thrown across Kirkwall.

Don't consult your headcanon - consult the cutscene.

[Lord Raijin]

eluvianix wrote...
And yes, I do like some blood magic, merely as a means of giving and extra boost to my normal spells. But never for mind control or demon summoning, or their upper tier powers. Nothing could ever justify those in my mind.

I find nothing wrong with summoning a demon for as long as you have full control over it. Mind control can also be useful for crowd control. If you're sorrounded by enemies that is too much for you to handle I find nothing wrong with controling a few of them to cause a distraction.

[Hellion Rex]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Building full of innocent people...
You mean the chantry that only had a few sisters every single time you were there?

People that still had nothing to do with Elthina's choices and decided neutrality.

[lil yonce]

eluvianix wrote...
I think you are wrong on that last point. He most certainly did spark a war. Granted, it was a long time in coming, but he certainly added a crap ton of fuel to the fire.

I give all credit to Adrian and Fiona. At the beginning of Asunder, Rhys says the Kirkwall RoA is the reason talk of rebellion never goes farther than talk.

[Hellion Rex]

Lord Raijin wrote...

eluvianix wrote...
And yes, I do like some blood magic, merely as a means of giving and extra boost to my normal spells. But never for mind control or demon summoning, or their upper tier powers. Nothing could ever justify those in my mind.

I find nothing wrong with summoning a demon for as long as you have full control over it. Mind control can also be useful for crowd control. If you're sorrounded by enemies that is too much for you to handle I find nothing wrong with controling a few of them to cause a distraction.

And that is a one way ticket to abomination town. Summoning demons is NEVER a good idea. Period.

Modifié par eluvianix, 15 décembre 2013 - 01:56 .

[Medhia Nox]

@eluvianix: As I do not hate the Templars - I think my greatest form of reconciliation would be to have a Templar "Oath Bound" (I'm making stuff up now) to me with the orders (from me) to kill me if I show signs of losing myself to the Spirit.

Of course - that's all headcanon theoretical stuff for "if" I were a real mage in Thedas.

[Rebel Wolf]

eluvianix wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Building full of innocent people...
You mean the chantry that only had a few sisters every single time you were there?

People that still had nothing to do with Elthina's choices and decided neutrality.

People who served the chantry.
Neutrality was part of the problem.
Could you stay neutral if you knew people were being abused?

Modifié par Rebel Wolf, 15 décembre 2013 - 01:59 .

[Magdalena11]

I suppor the mages. Bring 'em on. I'm sure there's an alternatve and I welcome it later. Let the good times roll..

[Medhia Nox]

@Rebel Wolf: You sound awfully judgmental.

[Hellion Rex]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@eluvianix: As I do not hate the Templars - I think my greatest form of reconciliation would be to have a Templar "Oath Bound" (I'm making stuff up now) to me with the orders (from me) to kill me if I show signs of losing myself to the Spirit.

Of course - that's all headcanon theoretical stuff for "if" I were a real mage in Thedas.

You know, to be honest, I wouldn't mind something like that. It would have to be an upper level templar, for sure.

[lil yonce]

eluvianix wrote...
People that still had nothing to do with Elthina's choices and decided neutrality.

And I don't begrude Elthina's neutrality as you perceive it. I view it this way - she was attempting to cool tensions out of her concern for the Circle. For obvious reaons, she would have to side with Meredith if it came to it, and permit the RoA.

Modifié par Youth4Ever, 15 décembre 2013 - 02:10 .

[Hellion Rex]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Building full of innocent people...
You mean the chantry that only had a few sisters every single time you were there?

People that still had nothing to do with Elthina's choices and decided neutrality.

People who served the chantry.

So, what? They should all burn just because of the actions of some?

[Rebel Wolf]

eluvianix wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Building full of innocent people...
You mean the chantry that only had a few sisters every single time you were there?

People that still had nothing to do with Elthina's choices and decided neutrality.

People who served the chantry.

So, what? They should all burn just because of the actions of some?

The ones who stayed quet and let mages they were supposed to be protecting be raped and abused?
The ones who serve the chantry of oppresion and exalted marches?

Modifié par Rebel Wolf, 15 décembre 2013 - 02:02 .

[Afro_Explosion]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Building full of innocent people...
You mean the chantry that only had a few sisters every single time you were there?

People that still had nothing to do with Elthina's choices and decided neutrality.

People who served the chantry.

Also people that the chantry housed like the homeless and people taking their vows, these are people that had no need to be sacrificed by some "messiah"

[Afro_Explosion]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

How else were the mages going to be heard?
Didn't we nearly beg Elthina to help?
Blowing up the chantry is nothing compared to the times they anulled whole towers.
INCLUDING CHILDREN.

That doesn't mean you should fight fire with fire.

[Rebel Wolf]

mx_keep13 wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

How else were the mages going to be heard?
Didn't we nearly beg Elthina to help?
Blowing up the chantry is nothing compared to the times they anulled whole towers.
INCLUDING CHILDREN.

That doesn't mean you should fight fire with fire.

But no one would listen.
Should we just accept that they were raping mages?
What can you possibly say to make not stopping that right away all right?
Remember there are children in the tower,do you think the abuse stopped with adults?
Just accepting abuse is not peace.
They anulled little kids they were supposed to protect.
By the beginning of the fith blight the Right has been invoked 17 times

Modifié par Rebel Wolf, 15 décembre 2013 - 02:19 .

[Afro_Explosion]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

How else were the mages going to be heard?
Didn't we nearly beg Elthina to help?
Blowing up the chantry is nothing compared to the times they anulled whole towers.
INCLUDING CHILDREN.

That doesn't mean you should fight fire with fire.

But no one would listen.
Should we just accept that they were raping mages?
What can you possibly say to make not stopping that right away all right?
Remember there are children in the tower,do you think the abuse stopped with adults?
Just accepting abuse is not peace.
They anulled little kids they were supposed to protect.

How does starting a war stop the abuses by the corrupt, since their actively at war it will get WORSE, because the corrupt will have no need to hide anything.

[Rebel Wolf]

mx_keep13 wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

mx_keep13 wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

How else were the mages going to be heard?
Didn't we nearly beg Elthina to help?
Blowing up the chantry is nothing compared to the times they anulled whole towers.
INCLUDING CHILDREN.

That doesn't mean you should fight fire with fire.

But no one would listen.
Should we just accept that they were raping mages?
What can you possibly say to make not stopping that right away all right?
Remember there are children in the tower,do you think the abuse stopped with adults?
Just accepting abuse is not peace.
They anulled little kids they were supposed to protect.

How does starting a war stop the abuses by the corrupt, since their actively at war it will get WORSE, because the corrupt will have no need to hide anything.

They will forced to change or die.

[Afro_Explosion]

Rapists don't change so I guess there is only one option. 

Modifié par mx_keep13, 15 décembre 2013 - 02:23 .

[Rebel Wolf]

mx_keep13 wrote...


Rapists don't change so I guess there is only one option. 

They deserve thier fate.