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[Rebel Wolf]

The Flying Grey Warden wrote...

You keep using rape as a crux for your argument rebel wolf and I will have no choice but to report you for your offensive use of it as a buzz word.

Cool.I will report you for harrasment then.

[Medhia Nox]

@eluvianix: I have it on good authority that Cullen finds blood magic gross.

And when he mysteriously gets a letter telling him about your practices... yes, it was me.

[Hellion Rex]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@eluvianix: I have it on good authority that Cullen finds blood magic gross.

And when he mysteriously gets a letter telling him about your practices... yes, it was me.

You fiend! Well, in all seriousness, if Cullen was a romanceable character, and you chose blood mage as a specialization, that would be a magnificent character arc, in my opinion.

[Afro_Explosion]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Rebel Wolf: Interesting how you don't care that Cullen was tortured.

So - torture is okay.

Rape means destroy the Chantry and kill all Templars.

Got it.

No,I don't care about creepy cullen.
Yes,an abusive system should be abolished.

The teachings of the chantry arent by themselves malicious, the way the chantry was founded made this conflict.

[Rebel Wolf]

Perhaps not but they have caused the death of a lot of innocent people,It's not religion I have issues with,it's when it tries to control,kill or abuse in a divine name.

[Lord Raijin]

The Flying Grey Warden wrote...
If it's a war about the mage rights the mages will lose, period. Whether it's from blowing up a symbol of good will and humanitarianism like the chantry is to most of thedas, or in trying to force everyone to accept them at the point of a staff, the will of thedas will turn against them and see them as any society sees a group of violent people who homogenously preach about their struggle while destroying people and places they hold dear.

As criminals and villains to be fought against tooth or nail. As people who would kill you and your family simply for not having magic. As beings who are different and dangerous, and relish in destroying innocent people.

Mages lost the war the minute they turned against the chantry, they validated all the horrors of the templars and chantry in the eyes of the average thedasian. And believe me, when the will of the people is lost to your cause, all you're doing is buying time until your efforts are proven to be in vain and you crumble into the sands of histroy as the evil group of people who deserved to be killed.

Do you realize that mages also have sympathizers (This also includes templars like Evangeline) thats willing to fight with them in this war? They're far more mage sympathizers than their are in those who are sympathing for the templars. If these sympathizers were willing to aid in the escape of mages in DA2 they would do far more other things like providing shelter/food,etc, and for the love of the Maker I cannot see the mages killing someone or their families because their not mages. Where do you get this information from? Are you making stuffs up again?

No mages did not lose the war the very minute they turned against the Chantry. It was the Chantry that failed their mages, and that is why the Divine aided in their escape which than caused Lord Seeker Lambert to declared the Nevarran Accord to be null and void, and no longer part of the Chantry.

The ones who turned against the Chantry were the Seekers and the templars, not the mages.

Let's not forget that we now have templars and seekers about to go into serious Lyrium withdrawl, and with red templars turning into giant size monsters we can truly see which party poses a greater risk.

[The Flying Grey Warden]

If mages don't wise up and employ some freaking tactics to make them not seem like building blow up looneys, those supports will quickly stop supporting them.

People sympathize with the mages because they feel sorry for the mages and think if people just gave them a chance they'd be able to live peacefully. And if all the mages decide to do is force everyone to obey their set forth ideology or be burnt alive in a fireball, then no one will believe them about their cause being anything other then a attempt to make every nation like tevinter.

That attitude of everyone who doesn't agree with mages are evil and deserve to die needs to stop if there is going to be even a chance of mages getting any sort of equality or freedom, and not end up worse then the seerabas.

[Rebel Wolf]

The Flying Grey Warden wrote...

If mages don't wise up and employ some freaking tactics to make them not seem like building blow up looneys, those supports will quickly stop supporting them.

People sympathize with the mages because they feel sorry for the mages and think if people just gave them a chance they'd be able to live peacefully. And if all the mages decide to do is force everyone to obey their set forth ideology or be burnt alive in a fireball, then no one will believe them about their cause being anything other then a attempt to make every nation like tevinter.

That attitude of everyone who doesn't agree with mages are evil and deserve to die needs to stop if there is going to be even a chance of mages getting any sort of equality or freedom, and not end up worse then the seerabas.

I think people support them because they realize the current system is horrific,all the mages want is a normal life,like anyone else.
Not all mages are like the ones in Tevinter.

[Medhia Nox]

@Rebel Wolf: Your mage wants to be a farmer?

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 15 décembre 2013 - 03:21 .

[Rebel Wolf]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Rebel Wolf: Your mage wants to be a farmer?

Which one?
My warden mages are wardens.
My hawke mage wants to be able to love and live like a person.
I am baffled why you think every normal person in thedas is a farmer...

Modifié par Rebel Wolf, 15 décembre 2013 - 03:25 .

[Medhia Nox]

@Rebel Wolf: Only nobles get to sit around reading books.

Everyone else has to work.

And nobody gets shelter, food and clothing handed to them.

So - naked, starving and homeless. Congratulations - you're free.  Good luck finding time to study magic.

Note: Those Circle buildings belong to the Chantry.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 15 décembre 2013 - 03:26 .

[ScarMK]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Rebel Wolf: Your mage wants to be a farmer?

Which one?
My warden mage is a warden.
My hawke mage wants to be able to love and live like a person.
I am baffled why you think every normal person in thedas is a farmer...

Farmer, blacksmith, military, or merchant.  Take your pick, and when I say take your pick, I mean pick military since the rest could have bad consequences to the economy.

[The Flying Grey Warden]

I truly do believe over 80% of their support is out of pity and feeling things could be better, and that most don't really hate the current system, just whose involved in it.

And as for all mages wanting to live normal lives...no. The fact that tevinter exists the way it does, with the policies it has, and the outlook and ideology it preaches, shows that not all mages want to live normal lives. Some want to live as kings, with their magic as their sword, ruling with an iron fist.

[Medhia Nox]

Are we brushed up on our "Sow Crops" and "Purge Weevil" spells?

[Lord Raijin]

ScarMK wrote...

Farmer, blacksmith, military, or merchant.  Take your pick, and when I say take your pick, I mean pick military since the rest could have bad consequences to the economy.

What about prostitution?

[Rebel Wolf]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Rebel Wolf: Only nobles get to sit around reading books.

Everyone else has to work.

And nobody gets shelter, food and clothing handed to them.

So - naked, starving and homeless. Congratulations - you're free.  Good luck finding time to study magic.

Note: Those Circle buildings belong to the Chantry.

You are priceless!
Merchants have time to read, I choose book merchant.
So a nice little house,a small business perfection.

[The Flying Grey Warden]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Rebel Wolf: Only nobles get to sit around reading books.

Everyone else has to work.

And nobody gets shelter, food and clothing handed to them.

So - naked, starving and homeless. Congratulations - you're free.  Good luck finding time to study magic.

Note: Those Circle buildings belong to the Chantry.

And thats when the raiding/pillaging usually starts. When a bunch of people with power don't have what is needed to help sustain them.

Doesn't matter if they're mages, templars, knights, or just well armed malitias, when the need arises, shortcuts get taken. 

[Afro_Explosion]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Rebel Wolf: Only nobles get to sit around reading books.

Everyone else has to work.

And nobody gets shelter, food and clothing handed to them.

So - naked, starving and homeless. Congratulations - you're free.  Good luck finding time to study magic.

Note: Those Circle buildings belong to the Chantry.

Well there is always room for apostitutes

[The Flying Grey Warden]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Rebel Wolf: Only nobles get to sit around reading books.

Everyone else has to work.

And nobody gets shelter, food and clothing handed to them.

So - naked, starving and homeless. Congratulations - you're free.  Good luck finding time to study magic.

Note: Those Circle buildings belong to the Chantry.

You are priceless!
Merchants have time to read, I choose book merchant.
So a nice little house,a small business perfection.

Rule #1 of business, you don't take from your own supply.

Also rule # 1 of being in the book business, you get hired as a worker, not as a reader.

[Rebel Wolf]

Lord Raijin wrote...

ScarMK wrote...

Farmer, blacksmith, military, or merchant.  Take your pick, and when I say take your pick, I mean pick military since the rest could have bad consequences to the economy.

What about prostitution?

Hopefully my Hawke learned that electricity thing from Anders.

[Medhia Nox]

@Rebel Wolf: And what does your mage shut in know about the Thedosian economy?

Sure, he's probably seen a map of whatever country his Circle was in - but he's never been out of his tower.

Mages are laughably ill equipped to be productive citizens.

[ScarMK]

Rebel Wolf wrote...
You are priceless!
Merchants have time to read, I choose book merchant.
So a nice little house,a small business perfection.

Well good luck with that, since either A.  Just because you MIGHT have time to read, doesn't mean others do.  and B.  I'm not exactly sure how widespread literacy is.

Lord Raijin wrote...

What about prostitution? 

I hope there aren't too many mages falling into that profession.  Lest you have to lower your prices to a copper.

Modifié par ScarMK, 15 décembre 2013 - 03:35 .

[Rebel Wolf]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Rebel Wolf: And what does your mage shut in know about the Thedosian economy?

Sure, he's probably seen a map of whatever country his Circle was in - but he's never been out of his tower.

Mages are laughably ill equipped to be productive citizens.

You did play the games right?
Hawke is an apostate,my dalish warden is as well.
My amell warden has been out of the tower for long enought to get how things work.
They could earn enough from killing bandits to open a nice store.

Modifié par Rebel Wolf, 15 décembre 2013 - 03:36 .

[ScarMK]

Rebel Wolf wrote...

You did play the games right?
Hawke is an apostate,my dalish warden is as well.
My amell warden has been out of the tower for long enought to get how things work.

So, you are comparing the special snowflake PCs to the rest of the game world.  Mmmmk then.

Modifié par ScarMK, 15 décembre 2013 - 03:37 .

[Rebel Wolf]

ScarMK wrote...

Rebel Wolf wrote...

You did play the games right?
Hawke is an apostate,my dalish warden is as well.
My amell warden has been out of the tower for long enought to get how things work.

So, you are comparing the special snowflake PCs to the rest of the game world.  Mmmmk then.

She or he  asked about MY mage.
But I'm sure a normal mage could be a healer or shopkeep.
Even a bodyguard.

Modifié par Rebel Wolf, 15 décembre 2013 - 03:39 .