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[The Baconer]

The establishment of worship of the Maker in Tevinter, as well as the initiative to remove officials who still clung to good ol' dragon worship, was orchestrated by one Archon Hessarian (note: not a popular uprising started by "the majority").

These events would later culminate in the establishment of Tevinter's Chantry, which is to say, the establishment of the institution that allows the traditional style of Tevinter governance to persist, even into the current Dragon Age of Thedas.

Modifié par The Baconer, 19 décembre 2013 - 03:09 .

[The Hierophant]

Due to the mentioning of a schism i thought the Tevinter Chantry was an offshoot of Drakon's Chantry?

[Dave of Canada]

Most of the high-ranking clergy, including nearly all of the ruling Altus magisters, refused to give up their Old Gods, but the non-mage Soporati class overwhelmingly supported Hessarian, beginning a period known as the Transfiguration. With the High Priests dead, Hessisan repurposed the Old God temples into the first Circle of Magi.

There is apparently debate as to whether he was sincere in his conversion, with some suggesting that he simply found it politically expedient to embrace a religion which was already gaining popularity amongst his own people. However, his ghost claimed to truly have felt pity for Andraste, feeling it was his duty as ruler to show mercy and that he hoped for mercy to be shown to him.

Found here.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 19 décembre 2013 - 03:15 .

[The Baconer]

Right, so coolguy Hessarian kills off Andraste, the primary motivating force that is driving the barbarian hordes ever closer to his doorstep, converts to the new and exciting religion of the day, has a few heretics killed (in a society where politics is a literal blood sport between officials, funny that), founds the first Circle of Magi (basically the place mages in Tevinter go to study new and totally radical ways to kill mundanes and each other), sedates the population. Not to mention, during this period it is not once mentioned that mages ever ceased to be the ruling class...

Convenient.

[Raydiva]

Got to love it when a video games causes a heated discussion on personal freedom, human rights and public safety with a touch of world history thrown in. Who says video games turns people minds in to mush?

Back on track...

Generally a rogue type player but I support the mages. No one should be imprisoned over what they might do, especially if there even isn't a hint that they were planning anything. Mages due to their abilities should be held to a higher standard, true but how can they reach that standard if they are not given the chance to do so.

[dragonflight288]

The religion just helped put everyone under one banner.

Yeah. Orlais' banner. Through exalted marches and conquest.

Modifié par dragonflight288, 19 décembre 2013 - 07:03 .

[ollec92]

Mages!

[Lotion Soronarr]

dragonflight288 wrote...

The religion just helped put everyone under one banner.

Yeah. Orlais' banner. Through exalted marches and conquest.

The entire Thedas is under Orlais?

*checks map*

Hmm...either this map is wrong...or you are full of it.

[Jaison1986]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

dragonflight288 wrote...

The religion just helped put everyone under one banner.

Yeah. Orlais' banner. Through exalted marches and conquest.

The entire Thedas is under Orlais?

*checks map*

Hmm...either this map is wrong...or you are full of it.

Not Orlais banner, but the Chantry banner. Actually, isn't Orlais pretty much hated by all Thedas nations at this point?

[Medhia Nox]

@The Baconer: On what level are we talking? An absolute level? A human level? An individual level?

- I believe, without being able to prove, that there is an absolute law that men should do only to others what they would have done to themselves. No person would choose slavery. Note: Being a follower of something is NOT slavery. Slavery requires an awareness, by the slave, of an undesirable condition.

- On a human level, since nothing can be known absolutely, slavery can only be considered evil if there is a majority consensus.

- On an individual level. Since neither I, nor any character I make, would want to be a slave - slavery is evil to myself and my characters.

[crazygirl0013]

There must be a better solution for the mage problem, like a circle in every town and turn the large circles into coleges or universitys. Then you have the mages live in a sector like the elves and the alinage so the templars can still watch them and the mages get to live there lives and have familys and some freedom. Every one wins.

[TheKomandorShepard]

crazygirl0013 wrote...

There must be a better solution for the mage problem, like a circle in every town and turn the large circles into coleges or universitys. Then you have the mages live in a sector like the elves and the alinage so the templars can still watch them and the mages get to live there lives and have familys and some freedom. Every one wins.

Yes everyone win outside people who were massacred by abomnations who lived in city and mages absued by templars because nothing was changed so everyone loses not win in that cases hell even circles now are everyone loses situation.alinage?... well thats great place to live i bet they are happy living like stray dogs in city and being killed by peoples with smallest excuse.

Next:devil:

[dragonflight288]

Jaison1986 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

dragonflight288 wrote...

The religion just helped put everyone under one banner.

Yeah. Orlais' banner. Through exalted marches and conquest.

The entire Thedas is under Orlais?

*checks map*

Hmm...either this map is wrong...or you are full of it.

Not Orlais banner, but the Chantry banner. Actually, isn't Orlais pretty much hated by all Thedas nations at this point?

At this point, yes. But the Chantry wasn't spread by peaceful missionaries and it didn't enter Nevarra, Ferelden and other such places out of conversion. It was brought in by force of arms, and after Orlais had been driven out, the Chantry's influence remained. However, in some cases, especially Ferelden's as told in the Stolen Throne, after driving out Orlais, the Chantry was also only a hair away from also being driven out as they were seen more as an Orlesian organization and less a religious one, especially with all the aid they gave Orlais and denied Ferelden until it became apparent that Ferelden was winning.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Jaison1986 wrote...

Not Orlais banner, but the Chantry banner. Actually, isn't Orlais pretty much hated by all Thedas nations at this point?

And this is a bad thing because..... ?