TheKomandorShepard wrote...
dragonflight288 wrote...
Elves? First peoples already gladly would burn mages for being mages see kirkwall and asunder so i think that you overestimate peoples history proves that.So i don't see a problem.
Cullen also mentions that the templars have been losing popularity increasingly, and it was just as likely they would get the door slammed in their face as be welcomed with open arms. And Thrask in Act 1 mentions that he's constantly surprised at how much support mages get from non-magical people.
In Kirkwall, there wasn't a lot of support for killing mages for the sake of being mages, except from Meredith and the extreme templars. All the nobles at the beginning of Act 3 simply share whatever views the Champion espouses, so I can't really count them when they have no set opinions of their own. And in Asunder, it was Lambert and extreme templars again who pushed killing/tranquilizing mages. Hardly conclusive evidence on the greater population.
As it stands now, however, it's hard to say which faction is least liked. Mages will always be feared by many non-mages, but the Red Templars look like they'll set the tone for how all templars will be perceived, as raiders, bandits and murderers if their attacking a village is anything to go by.
And i said already for grey wardens we need few mages we can give them few new born mages to train and that will be enough.
Two things wrong with this. Grey Wardens only recruit the best. Most people don't survive the joining. Giving them cast off mage children won't work for that reason alone. The Grey Wardens would be forced to somehow come up with the materials, the housing and the educational facilities needed to raise these mages and teach them to master their powers while also fighting the darkspawn, so the mage mentors would be likely too busy to train the kids.
Another reason this won't work is that if you kill all the mages except for the few children given to the Wardens, who would have the training and knowledge to train the new generation? Only Tevinter would, and that's no an option for anyone who wants to teach mages against the dangers of blood magic.
Only problem is veil as you said but it can be fixed by grey warden mages that i mentioned before so my solution is good and ends problem.
Only most mages would still be dead, whether from your purge or from the Joining itself, and Wardens are committed to fighting the darkspawn and staying out of all other concerns, so they likely would only get involved with the veil tears if it got in the way of being a Grey Warden and fighting darkspawn.
1)well:
-)We have elves genocide no one cares as well they are part of that like for example when one elf killed someone.
-)Where do you have that peoples i didn't see them
-)meredith herself stated that peoples will want mages blood
-)nobles at best want put meredith down at worst kill mages.
So no i don't think that would be problem for most peoples just for few.
2.Well you don't have to be grey warden only mage to prepare joining i am wrong?So idea is just control that few mages and teach them how prepare ritual thats all their support in fight isn't required so not much about cost.
3.I doubt that apocalypse would be great for fighting darkspawn and doing that would be good for relations with other nations
1.)
a. Where is stated
anywhere that people don't care if elves are all slaughtered? If the elves are gone, where would the humans get their servants?
b. What people are you referring to? The ones at the beginning of Act 3 who support whoever Hawke supports? Is so, that's the nobles standing around after Hawke oversees Orsino's and Meredith's debate, and if you click on them, they talk aloud and agree with whatever position Hawke took.
c. Meredith had been trying to get a Right of Annulment for some time. If Kerras lives past Act 1, he mentions that Meredith was going over Elthina's head and was appealing directly to the Divine. -- But more importantly, Meredith had the guilty person in front of her. It was Anders. Meredith's duty as a templar is not only to protect the world from mages, but also to protect the mages from the world. Meredith created a hypothetical mob in order to justify her Right of Annulment. She doesn't use blood mages, abominations or even a conspiracy on Anders' part. Only the mob, who aren't there at the moment, who have no real idea what happened, and doesn't exist yet, as her justification.
If Meredith did her duty, and shut down the Gallows, asked Aveline to see to it that a riot didn't form while she searched the Gallows, and if a mob did form, organize her templars to protect the mages from attacking and killing those who weren't involved with the bombing, I would've supported her in a hearbeat, and would've helped search the Gallows thouroughly.
d. The nobles are completely fed up with Meredith having all the political power in Kirkwall, and Meredith's policies revolved completely around mages and how dangerous they were to the city that no one could talk about how to run the city without also talking about how the Circle Mages are being treated. I think most nobles simply wanted the reason Meredith was using to stay in power gone so she would lose the authority that kept them from running the city in the first place.
2. ) You're not wrong, but where would the mages get their training in the first place if you've already killed all the Senior Enchanters, Enchanters and all experienced mages? The Wardens dont have a lot of mages on hand, and the ones they do would be way too busy to stay back at the keep to train children or play babysitter. They would be out in the field, fighting darkspawn.
The only way this would be even close to feasible if there were plenty of mages on hand who could train these children so there would always be mages to prepare a joining, but then where would those mages be if they aren't Grey Wardens? Probably in a Keep living their lives with no Circle's and no Templar's, or out in the world, and that leads us exactly back to where we are before your idea of killing nearly every mage alive at birth, or as soon as their magical talents manifest themselves.
And costs will always be an issue. Lyrium will be required, added into the stipends the Wardens already get from their individual countries, and it's been shown time and again that many nobles, after a century or so following a blight, begin to feel that Wardens are a drain on the nation's coffers, many simply choose to believe that darkspawn are no longer an issue, and work to limit how much money the Wardens get. Happened before Sophia Dryden became Commander of the Grey, it happened in Ferelden before the blight, and even then, for the vast majority of it, most people didn't think it was a blight at all. And even up to the end, people were still questioning whether Wardens were needed.
I think you're underestimating how much it'll cost, and how popular Wardens are. They are not very popular at all except after they save everyone from a blight.
3.) Who knows how the devs will take it, but if the templars attack the Wardens (as was strongly implied in the trailer) then that would mean the Chantry and its templars would lose very valuable allies against the demons, whether the Wardens are wiped out or if they decide to go to war against those who keep them from doing their duty, which in turn would only compound the problem.
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