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[capn233]

That's as pretty as a gold screen gets, unless I'm missing something obvious. What challenge was it?

 

Heart of Hell Hydra.  Name is red, no extraction.  Mission Successful bc died as timer expired.

[ClydeInTheShell]

Uhm... I'm all for striving for perfection and stuff but since when sub30 'absolutely sucks' for a gold solo? I mean, if you were in the 60+ zone or something I'd kinda have to agree, but a sub30? Clyde, pls.

 

Well done, btw. 

Thanks, but maybe I shouldn't have used that wording? 

 

I do stand behind my assertion that the time could be much better; it's Glacier with an AIU/Venom vs Cerberus, and considering my peers are able to do some of these on Platinum and are sub30, it's only right that I push for better times. It doesn't take away from the fun, it actually adds to it for me.

 

Also, capn that sux.  

[q5tyhj]

Heart of Hell Hydra.  Name is red, no extraction.  Mission Successful bc died as timer expired.

Oh man, did you need full extraction for the challenge requirements? 

[My other account is banned]

Uhm... I'm all for striving for perfection and stuff but since when sub30 'absolutely sucks' for a gold solo? I mean, if you were in the 60+ zone or something I'd kinda have to agree, but a sub30? Clyde, pls.

 

Well done, btw. 

 

Agreed. Clyde is just being a scrub as usual. 

 

Sub 30 gold solos are still good times, especially for us console peasants! 

[xelander]

Heart of Hell Hydra.  Name is red, no extraction.  Mission Successful bc died as timer expired.

Out of curiosity, what build and equipment did you use?

[AW_FC_1986]

@q5thyi: Because it´s Gold, full extraction is required.

[capn233]

Out of curiosity, what build and equipment did you use?

 

This one.

 

Oh and the important thing: increased mouse sensitivity.

[frank_is_crank]

Had some spare time today, so here is this:

 

N3 - The Powers of Old Unite

I. Chooser of the Slain
41:19 - frank_is_crank (320027 pts)

Escort, Hack, Hack

 

II. Hold the Line
35:41 - frank_is_crank (261242 pts)

Hack, Pizza, Targets

 

N3.3 will have to wait, because CerBS.

 

The 7 Tiers of Neufchatel

Tier 1 - Duo - Hardcore
18:46 - Amirie_UK | frank_is_crank

 

Tier 2 - Duo - Hardcore
22:44 - Amirie_UK | frank_is_crank

[ClydeInTheShell]

Agreed. Clyde is just being a scrub as usual. 

 

Sub 30 gold solos are still good times, especially for us console peasants! 

ctc is on xbox and he was sub 19 in that same challenge. Just sayin.

[My other account is banned]

ctc is on xbox and he was sub 19 in that same challenge. Just sayin.

 

Great is better than good though. 

[ClydeInTheShell]

Great is better than good though. 

Thanks David, I had no idea. 

[q5tyhj]

@q5thyi: Because it´s Gold, full extraction is required.

Oh man, I'd be raging so hard... 

[capn233]

Oh man, I'd be raging so hard... 

 

Yeah...

 

[ClydeInTheShell]

OMG capn 

 

I tell ya, Tier 1 helped with my rage vs Geth, I can only imagine how you feel right now. I know you'll get it though

[frank_is_crank]

Go, capn go!

 

Spoiler

Or just paint that name white

 

[Alfonsedode]

Agreed. Clyde is just being a scrub as usual. 

 

Sub 30 gold solos are still good times, especially for us console peasants! 

what was your other account btw ?

nvmd

[xelander]

Weekly Challenges Series 2 Hardcore (Gold)

 

Week 3. Jondum Bau, Spectre

34:07 - x3lander (267043 pts)    Pizza|Devices|Escort

 

4 days, 8 or 9 attempts, each one with devices and 5 or 6 of them ending with a ridiculous Banshee grab on wave 9. And then I get trolled with not a single good spawn to nuke... F#ck the time, f#ck the objecitves, f#cking f#ck!!! F#ck that sh!t

 

I'm switching to N2 Plat....

[ex-Clusum]

tier 4 plat

21:07 - Smehur | ex-Clusum

 

that's all duos for me iirc, not sure if that's good for the thing cos it says complete all duos as a team and i'd read that as complete it with the same partner

[capn233]

This was me on the shuttle to the Geth (NSFW - Language)

 

 

I will make a longer post when the video is uploaded.

[Prestacious]

So many great posts! Man that sucks capn(edit:just saw your new post! Amazing! Another heart of hydra completion!). Also techno, you got rekt! currently in transit from the citadel to Noveria. Should be at my terminal for an update tmrw! Stay cool N7. Also.. June 11th is the 2 year anniversary of this thread #what!? Stay tuned edit:who needs paragraphs anyway?

[Smehur]

7 Tiers of Neufchatel Insanity Duos

 

Tier 1

17:46 - ex-Clusum | Smehur  My very first sub20 platinum duo. 

 

Tier 3

21:31 - ex-Clusum | Smehur

 

Tier 6

25:34 - ex-Clusum | Smehur

 

Note that these were all done without armored compartments. Pretty sure they'd all be sub20 otherwise, but I insisted we went without 'cause too cheesy.

[Smehur]

that's all duos for me iirc, not sure if that's good for the thing cos it says complete all duos as a team and i'd read that as complete it with the same partner

 
Hm. True, yet the HoF lists individuals, not teams. I'm sure Pres will be happy to give you some well deserved Brie, but it would also be nice to have the teams listed as teams in the HoF.

[Prestacious]

^ yes, it was initially listed as individuals having completed all duos. I can add the category for teams tho

Maybe I'll even add a purist's mode.. hold the cheese.

[capn233]

Heart of Hydra

 

48:12 - capn233 (265,637 pts) [v]

 

Packages, Hack, Packages.  I couldn't glitch the hack.  This took many attempts.  I thought about a rant regarding the flawless concept, but I will skip it.  Will add my 2 cents about this challenge instead...

 

Build

 

I already posted it above, but you can see it here.  Infiltrators are largely built around their weapons, and your weapon choices for this one are Lancer or Mantis.  Lancer makes more sense for two reasons.  The first is that if you look at single shot Mantis damage, you can't one-shot any protected units outside of cloak in this map setting as a full damage HFI with Phasic III and Rail 3.  So you probably can't make up the DPS disparity between Mantis and Lancer with mook killing speed.  The second is that choosing Lancer allows  you to drop points out of TC to throw into Fitness.  The extra ranks in fitness, especially recharge, is helpful for this challenge.  Whether it is preventing gate from a single rocket, or allowing you to duck in cover a shorter time to regen shields.

 

Personally, I feel like Stickies are fairly mediocre.  It may have been a mistake to take Damage at Rank 4, but Radius only gets you up to 2.6m, which is still fairly pitiful.

 

Related to that is the spec for the Lancer.  EM+EB+AP is the best setup for this character.  You do not have a consistently reliable detonator power (so DA doesn't make much sense), and you don't have a "fire power" to prime shields (meaning IA glitching is less helpful).  Full damage hits through cover, on the other hand, are very helpful.  I can expound on this in more detail if anyone is interested, but I am confident math largely supports EM+EB+AP on the Lancer here.

 

Lancer does have a lot of recoil.  I increased my mouse sensitivity setting to 30 for this one (usually I have it set to 20).  And still you can tell when I have to reset the mouse position in the vid.

 

Waves and Strategy

 

I'll mention the standard waves first.  Waves 1 and 2 are standard mook waves and you can largely camp the "Corridor" and "Operations" while they funnel towards you.  Wave 4 is another largely mook level wave, as long as you can hit the bombers and don't let the pyros sneak up behind you.

 

Wave 5 has 2 Primes, 2 Hunters and some Troopers, and is the second hardest wave IMO.  You need to try and account for the position of both primes at all times, as their position determines what routes you can use to kite enemies.  If the Primes spawn and move together, your life will be a lot easier.   The main idea being to isolate the Primes in the corridor/Ops while you farm mooks on the low ground, or vice versa.  Alternatively, if one or both are glitched on the LZ and don't move, you can potentially have an easy wave as you camp the Corridor and Ops and farm mooks.  However, keep in mind that sometimes a Prime who appeared to be glitched on the LZ may start moving later and end up somewhere you don't expect if you aren't paying attention.

 

Wave 7 has a single Prime, 1 Pyro, 3 Hunters and 3 Rocket Assholes.  If you can isolate the Prime so that it doesn't have LOS on you while you farm mooks, this is an ok wave.  Overall it isn't all that bad since it is easier to isolate a single Prime than 2 of them.  Of course, when you do move it may be hard to dodge all the rockets from the multiple rocket assholes on this wave, especially if they decide to ripple fire their rockets.

 

Wave 8 is potentially the coffee break wave, with a mix of bombers, hunters and pyros.  The safest wave to do the wave is to farm bombers only, while keeping hunters and pyros at range.  Hunters will not fire at you outside of a minimum distance as long as you do not drop their shields.  You can practically stand in the open as much as you want, as long as you don't let the units get to close.  The other advantage of farming bombers is that if one does spawn behind you and you don't notice it, typically it will go into the bomb routine, and you should have time to dodge after seeing the grenade icon pop up.  If there are two bombers together though, usually the first goes into the bomb routine and the second will use the shock attack.  Or if there is some intervening cover, the bomber likes to chose the shock attack.  The hunters and pyros will probably end up in a pack moving together, and you can eventually nuke them with a couple grenades and some weapons fire.

 

Wave 9 is the worst wave, and feels like it will go on forever.  It is a 2 Prime wave, with a pryo, a couple bombers, and multiple rocket assholes.  If you can group and isolate the Primes, as with 5, you can slowly whittle the wave budget killing bombers, pyros and rocket assholes.  Probably though you will find the Primes split (as with 5), and you will have to try and maneuver through the map avoiding Prime LOS, troll drone LOS, and rocket ******* shots to reposition.  Or maybe you will get lucky and they will both glitch on the LZ, in which case you can camp Ops and farm the trash mobs.  Good luck.

 

Objectives

 

The most general strategy for all objectives is to isolate Primes in the opposite portion of the map (high v low, mainly).

 

Hack - A hack you can glitch is by far the easiest on this map, IMO.  In this run I managed to screw up glitching the hack, and had to make a bunch of passes.  Unglitched hacks can vary from hellacious to decent depending on their location and enemy spawn.  In an attempt before this, I screwed up glitching the hack near the Corridor, but the edge was near the corner where I do most standard waves and I was able to hold that spot the whole time.

 

Escort - Another one that ranges from good to poor depending on specific escort and enemy spawn location.  You will probably need to abandon the drone, make a loop, and come back.  Isolating the Primes correctly can make or break these.  Also, there are a few tricks you can use to move the drone along, as some spots on the low ground near the edge of high ground will move the drone while it is above you.

 

Packages - I had decent luck with them in this game, but it depends on how well you can isolate Primes.  If you aren't careful you can easily get staggered by a drone rocket, and then get dropped by a siege pulse barrage.

 

Devices - These are slow, but largely doable by isolating Primes.  Also, try to pick a spot and orientation while you enable the device that gives you some semblance of protection.  I slapped together a vid of a couple of the devices I completed (on eventually doomed runs) in case they might help someone.

 

Targets - The worst objective of the lot, IMO.  The problem is the flawless concept.  So no rocket switching of targets, no thermal clip damage bonus to help with DR.  I got this objective 3 times in my attempts and only completed it once (time expired when I failed it).  It is hard to find a spot where you can put sustained fire on the Primes without being pushed or distracted by trash mobs.

[Prestacious]

^ incredible capn! I appreciate the strategy synopsis as well. I think it takes that kind of understanding of the enemy mechanics, wave composition, map layout and character abilities combined with a little luck (yes "flawless" is a brutal approach to a challenge, but you have to admit, it is extremely challenging) to complete this.

I'll watch the vid more closely at home, but in the little bit I manage to watch, I can already see your strategizing to lure enemies certain ways and control the battlefield.

This challenge is a game of chess. And you are now one of only 4 to get checkmate on Heart of Hydra! And not to mention, the new record.

Very impressive capn (slow clap).