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[Tinu]

Enad wrote...

It would be best if it stayed away from the current gen limitations..but I guess there's nothing we can do about that.

The only thing I'm concerned about is whether the PC version is on par with the next gen version of the game or we get stuck with the current gen version because EA or Bioware don't want to put work into a nice PC version.

I thought the new consoles were much more scripted like PC's are. At least what concerns gaming. 
So I guess their primary focus will be PC/XboxOne/PS4, but still making it avaible for older systems (PS3/Xbox).

[catharsisboo]

Um, no? Make textures worse for consoles or something. All of my saves are on 360 so I won't be playing it on PS4, and I'm not buying Xbox One for obvious reasons.

[KoyoteN7]

Enad wrote...

It would be best if it stayed away from the current gen limitations..but I guess there's nothing we can do about that.

The only thing I'm concerned about is whether the PC version is on par with the next gen version of the game or we get stuck with the current gen version because EA or Bioware don't want to put work into a nice PC version.

This is my fear as well. Because EA Sports is releasing this gen version for FIFA 14 on PCs. However those are different engines, FIFA is on Ignite and DA3 is on Frostbite and DICE is always releasing best versions of their games on PC so I hope Bioware will follow suit.

Modifié par KoyoteN7, 11 juin 2013 - 10:46 .

[KoyoteN7]

I guess, I thought that maybe Ignite is more complicated to scale to less powerful PCs but I have no idea about game development so yeah.

[Dave Hoffman]

Yes, OP, I wish that DA3 was not coming out for ancient-gen consoles. Anything in the tech field that is 7-years old is a toaster. If they're going to continue making games that'll run on those relics, then what's the point of making new consoles to begin with?

I need to rephrase. If the developers can dumb the games down to a version that would work on the ancient-gen consoles, then I am in favor. But if there are design meetings where someone would say something like, "No, we can't have all 30 of those NPCs have unique AI because it wouldn't work on the PS3," then that would be unacceptable.

[ReveurIngenu]

Yes, I totally wish they would dump current gen versions and just fully concentrate on next gen.  Square Enix is doing it with FFXV and I'm pretty sure that game will have cost more to develop than DAI.

God, I am so sick of this never-ending generation!  I just want to move on and never look back on this gen.  I can't believe people aren't satisfied with 7 years worth of games and still want next gen games to be multi-gen games.  It's time to fully embrace next gen!  You've had 7 years to save up!  Don't let current gen consoles limit next gen games, please!!!

After seeing Forza 5 and EA's racing game, when Sony showed off GT6 on PS3 in their conference, I just couldn't help but notice how ugly it was.  And this is a game coming out at the end of this generation and from a developer who knows how to develop for PS3.  It's like when I switched from standard definition to HD.  At first, you don't quite realize just how much of an improvement it is, but then you look back at SD and you realize just how ugly it is.  And you just can't ever go back.

I've tasted next gen graphics and current gen is no longer possible for me.  The Last Of Us (and maybe FFX HD) will be the last current gen games I plan on playing.

[KotorEffect3]

Angrywolves wrote...

uh no. Not everybody has 400 or 500 dollars to shell out on new systems.

Agreed, fortunately the outgoing generation of consoles is supported with new games for a good year or two after the new  generation of consoles come out.

[Ghaleon]

No i do not wish this at all for many reasons, most prominent of all what a bout those who can't buy a PS4? i'd gladly take a hit to graphics etc on PS4 version so more can play it.

Which honstly PS3 won;t affect quality of PS4 one anyway i'd think.

[Melca36]

Shasow wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

uh no. Not everybody has 400 or 500 dollars to shell out on new systems.

Right. I don't have 400 or 500 dollars to buy the Xbox 360, so they should release DAI on the original Xbox as well.

The 360 does not cost $500  

[Tatsumaki]

If you all had bought a PC to begin with, there never would exist this problem of particular platform holding back the rest due to hardware limitations. The old consoles SEGA, SNES, Nintendo64, Dreamcast - Either you have it or you don't, We never hear of PC versions of Mario Kart, Bomberman or Marvel VS Capcom. Tough luck for PC owners. You play or you don't.

If you could not afford 'next generation consoles' you should have thought about it 7 years ago and invested in a PC where you can upgrade to keep up to date (if need be) part by part.

Caveat:

If you don't have enough cash, live within your means.
Be smart with your spending
Do part time work or offer to do chores for people for a small fee

2. Your financial problems are not the game developers responsibility

3. Do you complain that Gorgio Armani, Gucci and Ferarri are not making their products affordable to you?

4. Why don't you also complain about how much the Hollywood stars are being paid and also demand that you're able to afford that kind of lifestyle with your ****ty finance?

While I was in college, school, and such I didn't have finances flowing too. I just dealt with it; couldn't even afford anything. Years later after working I went back and played 5 year, 10 year old games just to revisit what was 'lost'.

[BlacJAC74]

Tatsumaki wrote...

If you all had bought a PC to begin with, there never would exist this problem of particular platform holding back the rest due to hardware limitations. The old consoles SEGA, SNES, Nintendo64, Dreamcast - Either you have it or you don't, We never hear of PC versions of Mario Kart, Bomberman or Marvel VS Capcom. Tough luck for PC owners. You play or you don't.

If you could not afford 'next generation consoles' you should have thought about it 7 years ago and invested in a PC where you can upgrade to keep up to date (if need be) part by part.

Caveat:

If you don't have enough cash, live within your means.
Be smart with your spending
Do part time work or offer to do chores for people for a small fee

2. Your financial problems are not the game developers responsibility

3. Do you complain that Gorgio Armani, Gucci and Ferarri are not making their products affordable to you?

4. Why don't you also complain about how much the Hollywood stars are being paid and also demand that you're able to afford that kind of lifestyle with your ****ty finance?

While I was in college, school, and such I didn't have finances flowing too. I just dealt with it; couldn't even afford anything. Years later after working I went back and played 5 year, 10 year old games just to revisit what was 'lost'.

Yes, that's correct. Us 360/PS3 owners tell BioWare which systems to release their products on.  If BioWare choose to release their products on inferior systems, then, wait for it ... that's their decision. Not mine, not yours and not the guy who stays next door to me, but BioWare's. The rest of your post is complete and utter nonsense. so i'll let someone else waste their time responding to those particular rants.

[RedWulfi]

Tis why i started playing on PC

[Ghaleon]

Tatsumaki wrote...

If you all had bought a PC to begin with, there never would exist this problem of particular platform holding back the rest due to hardware limitations. The old consoles SEGA, SNES, Nintendo64, Dreamcast - Either you have it or you don't, We never hear of PC versions of Mario Kart, Bomberman or Marvel VS Capcom. Tough luck for PC owners. You play or you don't.

If you could not afford 'next generation consoles' you should have thought about it 7 years ago and invested in a PC where you can upgrade to keep up to date (if need be) part by part.

Caveat:

If you don't have enough cash, live within your means.
Be smart with your spending
Do part time work or offer to do chores for people for a small fee

2. Your financial problems are not the game developers responsibility

3. Do you complain that Gorgio Armani, Gucci and Ferarri are not making their products affordable to you?

4. Why don't you also complain about how much the Hollywood stars are being paid and also demand that you're able to afford that kind of lifestyle with your ****ty finance?

While I was in college, school, and such I didn't have finances flowing too. I just dealt with it; couldn't even afford anything. Years later after working I went back and played 5 year, 10 year old games just to revisit what was 'lost'.

Oh  look a PC player saying the same tired old lines they always say, kudos though for not using the PC master  race line.

In response to your  2nd point While it is not i agree they neeed to keep console market in mind as most of Bioware sales are for console games not  PC.(can link source for this if i must)

Ignoring point 3 and 4 as they are horrible comparisions.

Telling people what they should  do is ridiculous some people just  do not like gaming  on a PC.

This is coming from  a  PC/PS3/360 gamer.

Modifié par Ghaleon80, 12 juin 2013 - 09:37 .

[BlacJAC74]

The person you're responding to isn't "telling people" what they should do, s/he is being patronising and condescending. They also come across as materialistic as one can possibly hope to be. A trait that is all too common in this day and age. 'I'm ok Jack, so screw you'

[Wulfram]

The plus side for me is that it pretty much guarantees that I won't have to upgrade my PC, I guess.

Downside would be if there's too many issues caused by the lack of memory available.

[Dragoonlordz]

As long as the PC version is created in the best possible way for PC controls, GUI, performance and experience then I do not care what other platforms it comes out on. It can come out on 3DO or Atari ST too for all I care as long as they create the best possible experience for each platform and not a tacky port which feels and looks out of place on the platform released for and bought on. If console players don't like me saying such then too bad, you want the best experience for your console platform so it is not unjust or unreasonable to want the same for the PC variation.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 12 juin 2013 - 10:02 .

[Little Princess Peach]

I don't know about everyone else but I'm keeping my PlayStation 3, I'm not buying a new PlayStation just because something more shiny happens to be on the horizon, until it stops working I' will keep playing on it.

[Tatsumaki]

Ghaleon80 wrote...

Oh  look a PC player saying the same tired old lines they always say, kudos though for not using the PC master  race line.

In response to your  2nd point While it is not i agree they neeed to keep console market in mind as most of Bioware sales are for console games not  PC.(can link source for this if i must)

Ignoring point 3 and 4 as they are horrible comparisions.

Telling people what they should  do is ridiculous some people just  do not like gaming  on a PC.

This is coming from  a  PC/PS3/360 gamer.

Points 3 and 4 are not horrible comparisions. The principle remains the same. Mass market cannot afford Ferarri. Mass market = console. Hey I fall into the mass market as well in this example but do you see me complaining to Ferrari & other brands?

I won't deny that the mass market is on the console and from a business point of view catering to them is profitable. The crux is that the mass market would not have existed if buyers were more intelligent to begin with, buying a PC in the first place.
Why would you purchase something that is completely stagnant especially in such a fast paced industry? If you wanted to fully enjoy your gaming experienced you'd have thought about long term decisions and invested in a PC.

TLDR it is because of the mass market consoles that PC people have to suffer. Its not a wise business decision to develop two seperate versions as well so developers will always cater to the consoles.

TLDR 2 People whom invested in PC don't complain about titles that are console exclusive. Too bad, we live without it not demand like a self entitiled baby

Modifié par Tatsumaki, 12 juin 2013 - 10:16 .

[Ghaleon]

Tatsumaki  how does buying a PC make one intelligent? i fail to see how owning one instantly makes you smarter?

A PC is not the end all of gaming some just do not like the hassle.

and i see PC players whine constantly about console exclusives, but i do not berate them for their choice of buying a PC like you are doing to console users

Modifié par Ghaleon80, 12 juin 2013 - 11:03 .

[BlacJAC74]

Tats, that's some superiority complex you have there.

[Legenlorn]

Was just wondering and don't get mad at me for putting my idea forward. We have like 14 months till the release date (if all goes well). If say one was to put 20$ aside every month for that time he would have 280 dollars right? So that's 120 dollars short from 400? Is that a high amount? I know I will upgrade my pc and it won't be a small amount (plus I am a student) but If I can have a better experience with the game then I am fine with it. Also I don't have anything against console players (after all we should all enjoy a great game).

[Tatsumaki]

Ghaleon80 wrote...

Tatsumaki  how does buying a PC make one intelligent? i fail to see how owning one instantly makes you smarter?

A PC is not the end all of gaming some just do not like the hassle.

and i see PC players whine constantly about console exclusives, but i do not berate them for their choice of buying a PC like you are doing to console users

Because PC has room for upgrades. Its a logical thing to do. If you wanted to fully enjoy your gaming experience you would have thought about it from PhysX to ambient occulsion and even frame rate.

2. My take on the console does not stem from superiority complex. The animosity stems from console owners decision that negatively affected hundreds of thousands of other people. Their decision to purchase a console made the initial market grow. Now every PC owner out there suffers because of this decision.

Game developers are not going to program double work for multi-platform. Too much time and resource for the minimal ROI.

Bioware is too kind and caters still to the mass market unlike Blizzard whom just makes titles for the PC fully utilizing all capabilities from graphics to performance.

In the mid 1990s Westwood made a big hit series; Command and Conquer. It was so successful that there was  Playstation port for it. No one ****ed about this when things are created for PC platform and then ported to console. Now its the reverse, and that is the problem

Modifié par Tatsumaki, 12 juin 2013 - 11:57 .

[Dabrikishaw]

Frankly, I'm just not interested in the Xbone or PS4, never will be. If Inquisition weren't coming to PS360 I wouldn't bother keeping up with the news.