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[The Elder King]

While nothing is certain, Intendo to believe that the Seekers that left the Chantry will take the templar banner, while the Seeker that remained with the Chantry will remain 'seekers'. Regardless, not every seekers is at war with the mages. DA2 shown that the Chantry reorganized their forces, since and army of seekers was shown at the end of the game.
On a side note, I hope that with the new engine the rings, pendant and belt will be visibile on our characters, depending on what you're wearing.

[DRobin13]

I like the idea that the rings could symbolize our PC's backstory! The only thing I would like to add is the idea if we are a newbie who just falls into this role or a senior who has experience.

I'd like to think that we are one person (from our chosen fraction) that have decided to find others to help end the chaos from other fractions. Just like the Wardens recruit people from every background & affiliation maybe this will be out job. To unite people fr different fractions under the title of the Inquistion!

[The Elder King]

While I agree one the 'unite different factions' plot (though I hope it's done differently than DAO), I hope that the PC will not be a novice. There's no way a novice could lead the Inquisition, unless there are an handful of members, and this would be bad, in my opinion. Other than it'll be repetitive (same thing happened in DAO), the Inquisition has no treaties to force factions to ally with them, and they aren't magically necessary to stop the demon invasion as the GW are for the Blights.

[JamieCOTC]

Or MP factions.

[Zekka]

These rings that you speak of, what do they look like?

Modifié par leslie2233, 13 juin 2013 - 06:42 .

[SirCroft]

There's a discrepancy between the promotional images they released. Three of them are present in both images, although in different fingers. The Circle ring, though, is apparently missing in one of them, which actually has one that isn't in the other image either, and they're definitely not the same ring.



Full size (easier to see the rings) >>>> i.imgur.com/3JO2EXi.jpg

Modifié par SirCroft, 13 juin 2013 - 07:38 .

[HighMoon]

I certainly hope this is the case. I'll be a seeker on my first run for sure.

[Pzykozis]

SirCroft wrote...

There's a discrepancy between the promotional images they released. Three of them are present in both images, although in different fingers. The Circle ring, though, is apparently missing in one of them, which actually has one that isn't in the other image either, and they're definitely not the same ring.

Full size (easier to see the rings) >>>> i.imgur.com/3JO2EXi.jpg

Uhh are you sure? That definilty looks like the 'circle' ring in the second picture (the cross shape is pretty apparent), sure the shape of the circle like thing is abit mangled but its not an easy perspective to draw and concept artists are usually banging these out pretty quick.

[PinkDiamondstl]

The rings are background options, this I am sure of..

[LobselVith8]

joe2353 wrote...

I just hope the rings are for sell.
Also, good thoughts they could be backgrounds or factions (spoilers) it makes sense. The Templars and Seeker are at war with all Mages, and the Grand Enchanter of the Circle is a Gray Warden. But, the main character looked like he or she was coming from the Western Approach meaning he or she is a survivor of the events that happen there in Asunder.

That could be interesting. Perhaps the mage could be someone who witnessed the emancipation of the Circles first hand. I wonder how much variety there could be with the possible Circle mage background.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Tinxa wrote...
I think the red ring is the Inquisition ring. It's glowy and seems the most important so maybe it's a symbol of the Inquisitor.

That's what I assumed, a seal of authority or somesuch.  The glowy might be artistic, but I think it might be magic.  If the Inquisition has to end a war that involves magic run amok...well, Thedas has shown us that for the most part, you fight fire with fire.

[LobselVith8]

DRobin13 wrote...

I like the idea that the rings could symbolize our PC's backstory! The only thing I would like to add is the idea if we are a newbie who just falls into this role or a senior who has experience.

I'd like to think that we are one person (from our chosen fraction) that have decided to find others to help end the chaos from other fractions. Just like the Wardens recruit people from every background & affiliation maybe this will be out job. To unite people fr different fractions under the title of the Inquistion!

I'd rather support some factions against the others, rather than unite them all.

[The Elder King]

Lobsel, it'd depend on the level of the threat. If templars are needed for stopping demons, wouldn't you try to make a deal with them?

[LobselVith8]

hhh89 wrote...

Lobsel, it'd depend on the level of the threat. If templars are needed for stopping demons, wouldn't you try to make a deal with them?

I'll take my chances with the mages dealing with the demons. I have no desire or inclination to make any bargain or concession with the templars.

[The Elder King]

LobselVith8 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Lobsel, it'd depend on the level of the threat. If templars are needed for stopping demons, wouldn't you try to make a deal with them?

I'll take my chances with the mages dealing with the demons. I have no desire or inclination to make any bargain or concession with the templars.

Bargain and concessions might non be necessary l. An armistice would be enough.
Putting aside the templars, what about the Chantry seekers?

[Jonata]

SirCroft wrote...

There's a discrepancy between the promotional images they released. Three of them are present in both images, although in different fingers. The Circle ring, though, is apparently missing in one of them, which actually has one that isn't in the other image either, and they're definitely not the same ring.



Full size (easier to see the rings) >>>> i.imgur.com/3JO2EXi.jpg

The one with the orange "??" in the second pic is clearly the Circle ring, it just switched position like the others.

They could either symbolize selectable backgrounds or factions actually, with the glowing red one standing for something related to Blood Mages, Demons and/or ancient Red Lyrium. 

Modifié par Jonata, 13 juin 2013 - 12:21 .

[LobselVith8]

hhh89 wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Lobsel, it'd depend on the level of the threat. If templars are needed for stopping demons, wouldn't you try to make a deal with them?

I'll take my chances with the mages dealing with the demons. I have no desire or inclination to make any bargain or concession with the templars.

Bargain and concessions might non be necessary l. An armistice would be enough.
Putting aside the templars, what about the Chantry seekers? 

An armistice seems unlikely with Lambert's forces. As for the Divine's agents, I wouldn't capitulate to them, either. I can't envision playing as a mage who would surrender his people's newfound freedom. I am wondering, if Cassandra and Cullen are mandatory, why they would follow orders from a protagonist like my hypothetical one.

[earl of the north]

My theory on the rings shown on the character on the main site is that they represent factions in the new game.....the seekers, bloodmages, the circle mages and the templars (no idea about the thumb ring, maybe GW with both sides in their ranks).

[esper]

LobselVith8 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Lobsel, it'd depend on the level of the threat. If templars are needed for stopping demons, wouldn't you try to make a deal with them?

I'll take my chances with the mages dealing with the demons. I have no desire or inclination to make any bargain or concession with the templars.

Bargain and concessions might non be necessary l. An armistice would be enough.
Putting aside the templars, what about the Chantry seekers? 

An armistice seems unlikely with Lambert's forces. As for the Divine's agents, I wouldn't capitulate to them, either. I can't envision playing as a mage who would surrender his people's newfound freedom. I am wondering, if Cassandra and Cullen are mandatory, why they would follow orders from a protagonist like my hypothetical one.

If the templars and chantry are willing to join completely on my character's conditions, they are welcome, but I am with Lobsel and will rather take a gamble with a smaller army than I am willing to risk the future. If I had to fight to save the world it needs be a world somewhat worth securing and I can't currently see a templar/chantry/mage compromise that is worth it and thus will rather risk fighting with a smaller army.

[esper]

earl of the north wrote...

My theory on the rings shown on the character on the main site is that they represent factions in the new game.....the seekers, bloodmages, the circle mages and the templars (no idea about the thumb ring, maybe GW with both sides in their ranks).

Blood mage doesn't really have a faction symbol as there are bloodmages in different factions, but I might be one of the more independant mages factions symbol.

[earl of the north]

esper wrote...

earl of the north wrote...

My theory on the rings shown on the character on the main site is that they represent factions in the new game.....the seekers, bloodmages, the circle mages and the templars (no idea about the thumb ring, maybe GW with both sides in their ranks).

Blood mage doesn't really have a faction symbol as there are bloodmages in different factions, but I might be one of the more independant mages factions symbol.

Well up to now there hasn't been large numbers of mages waging a bloody civil war across Thedas, so I'd say its likely that the bloodmages might now be a faction, after all if not why are there 'Circle mages' if the mages are one faction?

Why would the now free mages identify themselves with the circles, unless they are trying to distance themselves from another group of mages, also it would make sense as we have the Seekers and the Templars so two mage factions would balance it out. 

Edit: Did the Bloodmages in the animated film have a faction symbol?

As far as I can remember they didn't use any symbol, they just wore a lot of red, so red for bloodmages, red ring for bloodmages?

Modifié par earl of the north, 13 juin 2013 - 01:09 .

[azarhal]

earl of the north wrote...
Edit: Did the Bloodmages in the animated film have a faction symbol?

As far as I can remember they didn't use any symbol, they just wore a lot of red, so red for bloodmages, red ring for bloodmages?

They were dragon cultists, not just bloodmages.

And the dude helmet and weapon have dragons on it.
And there is a lots of dragons flying around suddently.

Coincidence?

[ComfortablyNumb]

esper wrote...

If the templars and chantry are willing to join completely on my character's conditions, they are welcome, but I am with Lobsel and will rather take a gamble with a smaller army than I am willing to risk the future. If I had to fight to save the world it needs be a world somewhat worth securing and I can't currently see a templar/chantry/mage compromise that is worth it and thus will rather risk fighting with a smaller army.

Usually I'm pro-mage, but if ,say, mages agree to join me only if I supply them with infinite people needed for blood magic rituals, I would probably have hard time doing so.

I'd rather not definitely say that I want or don't want any factions, until I see how things look in game. 
In war, sometimes you have to compromise. 

Modifié par mrufka_z, 13 juin 2013 - 01:22 .

[esper]

mrufka_z wrote...

esper wrote...

If the templars and chantry are willing to join completely on my character's conditions, they are welcome, but I am with Lobsel and will rather take a gamble with a smaller army than I am willing to risk the future. If I had to fight to save the world it needs be a world somewhat worth securing and I can't currently see a templar/chantry/mage compromise that is worth it and thus will rather risk fighting with a smaller army.

Usually I'm pro-mage, but if ,say, mages agree to join me only if I supply them with infinite people needed for blood magic rituals, I would probably have hard time doing so.

I'd rather not definitely say that I want or don't want any factions, until I see how things look in game. 
In war, sometimes you have to compromise. 

Oh... I am not saying that they need to do blood magic and sacrifices and the like. I am would be satisified with one of two thing:

1. They join the cause for mages freedom.
2. They don't hinder it.

And by hinder it, I mean that they understand that when the battles end my character are not their friend, my character is not going to support their factions in anyway or let them get any amount of control over the mages afterwas.

[M-Taylor]

Izana wrote...

I like this theory. It would explain how the PC got selected the way he did, and it would be a different experiance from the Origins in DA:O.

However, I hope we don't get a circle mage origin. We already had it in DA:O, after all.

I hope we don't have an Apostate origin. We already had it DA2, after all...

I'm really interested in how they handle the Mage class this time around. I hope they've learnt from their mistakes of DA2, and to a lesser extent DA:O, and people have reactions to both being a mage and what type of mage you are.

But anyway, there's only really 2 different kind of Mage origins. Tower, or Apostate. Saying you don't want one limits people and forces them to play something they don't want to play. I always play mages for example, and I don't want my origins to be Apostate based again. I really do want to play a rebel Circle mage.