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[Dajiaocookie]

 I've been a big fan since baldurs gate, nwn, etc, etc.. took a big hiatus to play the slew of MMOs, mainly the likes of Lineage 2 and WoW. Just got back into the saddle with Jade Empire, KOTOR, Mass Effect, etc, etd (courtesy of Steam X'mas Sale).

Having dabbled with all these games, Mass Effect feels like the superior of the lot, including Dragon Age Origins. Gameplay feels so much better and the pacing is way better (though if they could shorten the damn elevator rides a tad).

DAO just feels clumsy compared to Mass Effect.

[Racca12]

Mass Effect was a fun game but for the little jaunts in the car across planets. In all seriousness, that killed the game for me big time.



There are not any aspects of Dragon Age that 'kill it' for me, thus I could say that in my opinion, Dragon Age is the better. However, your question is an interesting one, not easily answered.

[Bfler]

What is the intention behind this thread? If Mass Effect is the better game for you then play and enjoy it.

Modifié par Bfler, 17 janvier 2010 - 04:03 .

[DoctorPringles]

They are also very different games in terms of gameplay and setting, so it's difficult to compare the two. However, I feel that Mass Effect had a better story in that there were many twists and turns with the characters and I was never quite certain of who the antagonist truly was. Nonetheless, I enjoy both games, and could not ask for much more.


Edit: I believe his intention was to merely express his feelings and open a discussion. This IS the general discussion forum.

Modifié par DoctorPringles, 17 janvier 2010 - 04:01 .

[Sup3rBill]

Racca12 wrote...

Mass Effect was a fun game but for the little jaunts in the car across planets. In all seriousness, that killed the game for me big time.

'Nuff said.  Dragain Age pwnz.

[melkathi]

Dajiaocookie wrote...

 (though if they could shorten the damn elevator rides a tad).

The elevator rides were one of the reasons I gave up on the game. Not the main one, but they didn't help.
I didn't like the gameplay, I didn't like half the characters.
So I guess its completly subjective which one is the better game

[Well]

DAO is the best for me.I like ME but it just didnt have as much RPG value to me.I did pre order ME2 as well as the DAO exp but DAO gives me more because of using different classes and races.I just finished 9th game and their was a funny twist to it.

[Not-So-Mysterious]

I preferred ME to DAO. For some reason a lot of the skills in DAO just don't hit home for me as effective and valuable.

[BroBear Berbil]

Racca12 wrote...

Mass Effect was a fun game but for the little jaunts in the car across planets. In all seriousness, that killed the game for me big time.

Ugh, I hated the rover parts and driving around looking for minerals. I hope that part is streamlined in ME2.

I like DA much, much more than ME. I was never able to connect with any of the characters in ME really - I just didn't find them particularly interesting.

[Dragon Age1103]

Dajiaocookie wrote...

 I've been a big fan since baldurs gate, nwn, etc, etc.. took a big hiatus to play the slew of MMOs, mainly the likes of Lineage 2 and WoW. Just got back into the saddle with Jade Empire, KOTOR, Mass Effect, etc, etd (courtesy of Steam X'mas Sale).

Having dabbled with all these games, Mass Effect feels like the superior of the lot, including Dragon Age Origins. Gameplay feels so much better and the pacing is way better (though if they could shorten the damn elevator rides a tad).

DAO just feels clumsy compared to Mass Effect.

   I have to completely disagree. Mass Effect has a brilliant story, deep characters, tons of plot, I love the codex & universe they built, the graphics but the gameplay is just completely 100% broken in my eyes. I've never even finished it myself, I had to watch my friend play through b/c 8 hours was the most I could bare to suffer through
  Please all ME fans do not start bashing me like children. lol. Doubtful! My first experience was on the 360 7 it was awful. The user interface, combat system, animations, squad control or lack of were all terrible. I loved the character screen for building your chars stats but the rest felt completely broken. The gameplay is slow, dull, not rewarding at all. I felt like the controls didn't match the UI & there was nothing to feel accomplished about at all. I switched to PC & played a lot longer, enjoyed a lot more which isn't saying much at all. Sorry guys but I simply did not enjoythe combat system. It was not well designed, slow, & just not rewarding at all. I didn't feel like I had powers or I was firing a powerful weapon.
   Do NOT get me wrong the characters are story were one of the best I've ever experienced but it is all opinion & personal preference. Bioware did a fantastic job just to keep me interested for 8 short hours. Aside from AVP, Starcraft, Halo, & Gears I do not like the future space marine setting especially in comparison to anything medieval. I personally prefer that setting with melee combat but that is not my main reasoning for my distaste with ME just the combat simple as that..it was far too boring & not rewarding at all.
   I'm truly sorry for some of you hardcore fans if that was hard to read without getting upset or defensive of your favorite game but know I do not deny it is not a truly great game for many people. Story, graphics, characters all count for a lot in the gaming world but if the the UI & gameplay mechanics feel broken you will not retain interest it has to be a fair balance.
   Example Assassin's Creed 1 & 2 both had fun yet repetitive gameplay mechanics which worked for the majority of us. It didn't get old too quickly b/c it was just fun to play but the story was just god awful. lol. The characters were decent above average but barely. So end result a playable game!
   No one should tkae great offense though, just my opinion & everyone has their own favorites.

Modifié par Dragon Age1103, 17 janvier 2010 - 04:27 .

[KCFender]

Personally, I still think Jade Empire was their best game, but that's how weird I am.

It just needed to be longer.

[Decho the Dolphin]

I prefer Mass Effect, primarily because I prefer sci-fi to fantasy, and the Mass Effect universe is one of the best ever created. The Mako was total trash however, and severely detracts from the game. Also, Dragon Age has much better supporting characters, whereas Mass Effect only had a few I liked (Garrus and Wrex), but I still think of Mass Effects as better overall - it still has the best story I've ever seen in a video game.

[Quadraxas]

elevator rides were actually loading screens, so with a more pwoerfull PC they were shorter(i assume.)
they were generally short enough for me. And i also personally think the mass effect's atmosphere was better than dao. One big plus was that shephard had voice overs which greatly improved the level joy that player gets from dialogues. It was a very large letdown for me to see the warden does not speak.(i can't blame tho.)

-----------> spoilers follow for both me and dao

Any way, mass effect and dao is very smiliar if you look at the whole plot of main story.
you see, there is that horde of enemies that are hivemind and they think better when their count is bigger.(geth & darkspawn) They are caused by one of the races/nations and that nation is driven exile(Quarians & Mages+Circle of magi). Some trusted person betrays their people/you.(Loghain & Saren) Then you are accepted in to the individuals that are not trained but chosen because of their ability(Spectre & grey warden). Everyone respects you because of this title. etc etc

---> end of spoiler

My personal preference in the end, is that mass effect was a better game.

Dragon Age1103 wrote...

  The gameplay is slow, dull, not
rewarding at all. I felt like the controls didn't match the UI &
there was nothing to feel accomplished about at all. I switched to PC
& played a lot longer, enjoyed a lot more which isn't saying much
at all. Sorry guys but I simply did not enjoythe combat system. It was
not well designed, slow, & just not rewarding at all. I didn't feel
like I had powers or I was firing a powerful weapon.
 

i understand that this is your opinion but i feel the exact opposite for the both games. I perefer the mass effect's combat system over dragon age's in terms of being slow. DA:O s combat is much much slower imo. And again just as oppoiste as you said, it did not felt like i am making powerfull blows or something in dao but it did in ME. One great thing adout dao's combat tho; the deathblows are great and indeed pleasure to watch & rearding.

I guess it's just a matter of taste.

Modifié par Quadraxas, 17 janvier 2010 - 04:56 .

[Lord_Darkmoon]

For me, Mass Effect is the better game due to the tighter narration, the suspense etc.



Dragon Age is a great game but there have been some things I didn't like. For example the cities and villages. Denerim never felt like the capitol it is, it was empty. Lothering was... strange. The quests were not implemented very well. I explored the whole area - which isn't too big. After that I got the quests and suddenly there was this ambushed woman lying around where there was none before... bears attacked where there were none before and due to the nature of the area being surrounded by water it didn't make sense for them to appear suddenly.

Even Redcliff had a strange layout for a town... the inn even wasn't connected to the rest with a path - I nearly missed it...

Other aspects like the landmeeting, the quest for the urn or Orzammar on the other hand were great.



Mass Effect was one thrill from beginning to end without glitches similor to those of Dragon Age.

[Wishpig]

I think if you mashed the strengths of Mass Effect and Dragon Age together you would have the perfect game... I enjoyed the two almost equally, favoring Dragon Age a little more.



I'll agree Dragon Age feels sloppy with a number of game play related issues. It just doesn't have the tightness that Mass Effect has. And it's VERY buggy.



BUT it has a longer story (arguably better), far more replayibilty, VAST replayibilty concerning mods and pricey but DLC that doesn't suck.



Long story short, oddly, the two seem to have contrasting strengths and weaknesses, and it all comes down to what strengths a person expects in a game.

[oblivionenss]

Actually, IMHO I think the two games is best in their genre ME (ARPG) and DAO (I think I can call this classic RPG but im not sure).



I just wish that Bioware can combine the two gamestyle in to a new genre and be the first one in years that break the trend that every game is just the same thing only in new engines.

That would be awesome.

[vectordream]

I agree with what Lord_Darkmoon said. It's all really a matter of opinion but for me Mass Effect was much more enjoyable overall.

[spernus]

I prefer Mass effect to Dragon Age(I'm currently replaying Mass effect as well ),even if it's inferior as an rpg.

Deespite Dragon Age being a competent effort from an experienced rpg developer,it's too uninspired and derivative imo.I did enjoy the dialogues,combats/tactics and party chats,but the world left me cold as ice.

The banality of the DA:O universe and the module based areas are my biggest disappointment.I can easily accept that a game like Mass effect doesn't have an open world since you travel from planets to planets and it's better to just focus on story related areas(since it's too expensive and time consuming to flesh out 20+ planets with open area and interesting landmarks).For a fantasy rpg however,I would gladly prefer open areas where you can venture in the wilds and explore.

[Noobius_Maximo]

I disliked Mass Effect. I got bored right away. Yet, I love Dragon Age, and I still have not gotten bored with it.

[NorseDude]

Maybe it's just me, but I can't even be bothered to think about it. Which ones is the best? Let's say I love Mass Effect more than Dragon Age. What does that matter? Should I sit up all night writing flame letters to BioWare and ask them to not make another Dragon Age game again? Should I go on a crusade and tell everyone on the forum how far superior Mass Effect is, so I can gather a whole bunch of minions and bring down the entire Dragon Age franchise with brute numbers of people not buying anythinng Dragon Age related and spreading the gospel that is Mass Effect to as many people as possible?

Or could I simply sit down, play Dragon Age, admit it's one hell of a game, enjoy it a few hours and go back to Mass Effect? I think I'll go with that. As soon as I've unlocked the remaining classes in Dragon Age. Gotta get that last playthrough of Mass Effect before Mass Effect 2 is out, then finish that game before the expansion for Dragon Age is out. By the time I finish it, the first DLC for Mass Effect 2 might be out. Where does it end!

Modifié par NorseDude, 17 janvier 2010 - 05:49 .

[addiction21]

I have tried sevral times to get thru Mass Effect and never did it.

I have played thru DAO twice and then some more.

Thats my answer.

[Little Paw]

spernus wrote...

I prefer Mass effect to Dragon Age(I'm currently replaying Mass effect as well ),even if it's inferior as an rpg.

Deespite Dragon Age being a competent effort from an experienced rpg developer,it's too uninspired and derivative imo.I did enjoy the dialogues,combats/tactics and party chats,but the world left me cold as ice.

The banality of the DA:O universe and the module based areas are my biggest disappointment.I can easily accept that a game like Mass effect doesn't have an open world since you travel from planets to planets and it's better to just focus on story related areas(since it's too expensive and time consuming to flesh out 20+ planets with open area and interesting landmarks).For a fantasy rpg however,I would gladly prefer open areas where you can venture in the wilds and explore.

While I agree with most of your post, it was pretty quick to explore all of ME. And the main story was very short.
DA:O has more content and variations based on your particular party members.
I look for ME2 to be much more in depth and I agree ME2 was a better story, but mainly due to fantasy being so Tolkien"esque" and overdone while space feels newer and fresher; and in many ways less explored as a genre.

Modifié par Little Paw, 17 janvier 2010 - 05:54 .

[NorseDude]

addiction21 wrote...

I have tried sevral times to get thru Mass Effect and never did it.
I have played thru DAO twice and then some more.
Thats my answer.

I have tried several times to get past Redcliffe in DA:O and never did it. I've been through Mass Effect twice so far. That should have been my answer, but I got past Redcliffe yesterday. That's my answer.

[jerkjuggernaut]

I love both of these games. SF is my preferred genre, so I didn't expect to like DA:O more than ME. DA:O, however, completely blew me away and is one of my favourite games of all time. I'd say DA:O is tied for first, while ME is tied for second or third.



I am really looking forward to ME2 and it may well surpass DA:O - I just won't know until I play it.

[mawdudi]

ME had more annoying factors and flaws than DAO, so DAO wins hands down. Like people have already said elevator rides and mako side quests quests got very very annoying after awhile.



Secondly itemization/gear/shopping was pointless in ME, the first time I played through ME I only once changed one item for a character(a better weapon for my Shepppard). And I was playing on default difficult, I think it's normal setting. Any game that is supposed to be RPG should have a useful item system imo.