Anders As A Returning Character For Players Who Kept Him Alive In DA2
#76
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 10:41
#77
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 10:43
#78
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 10:44
#79
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 10:45
Karlone123 wrote...
I kept imagining Anders narrating over the trailer and taking Morrigan's place at the end of the trailer. How would that have made you feel?
Ha. I'd like to see forums explode after that. Maybe on April 1st next year?...
#80
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 10:51
Nrieh wrote...
@AstraDrakkar You never liked Anders and you never liked Hawke - have no idea why would you even bother to click on a thread for those who do. Since you murdered him in DA2 - you obviously have zero chance to see him in DAI, whether they write a cameo-plot for him or not.
Because as I said, I loved the DAO Awakenings Anders, and I'm still upset they changed him for DA2.
#81
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 11:12
#82
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 11:27
Nrieh wrote...
@AstraDrakkar You never liked Anders and you never liked Hawke - have no idea why would you even bother to click on a thread for those who do. Since you murdered him in DA2 - you obviously have zero chance to see him in DAI, whether they write a cameo-plot for him or not.
Didn't stop DA:O -> DA2 Leliana ;3
#83
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 11:30
Yes, sometimes people tend to change, and we may love "old" people better, but that's hardly a reason to post something like:AstraDrakkar wrote...
Nrieh wrote...
@AstraDrakkar You never liked Anders and you never liked Hawke - have no idea why would you even bother to click on a thread for those who do. Since you murdered him in DA2 - you obviously have zero chance to see him in DAI, whether they write a cameo-plot for him or not.
Because as I said, I loved the DAO Awakenings Anders, and I'm still upset they changed him for DA2.
Yes bring him back....but only if I can murder knife him again.
Whenever you liked him in DA2 or not - you murdered exactly same person you loved in DAA. And It seems to me that you're eager to repeat your....uhm...'act of heroism'.
#84
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 11:35
Confirmed multiple times, that dead Anders is not to bother those, who murdered him, but Justice still may show up. What's the point of repeating that old Leliana-related thing? Not to mention that there IS a difference between random finishing move in a situation 90% of players not even aware of and direct unavoidable decision.Didn't stop DA:O -> DA2 Leliana ;3
#85
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 11:51
#86
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 11:53
Tharja wrote...
Tell me somthing if Hawke blew up the chantery instead of Anders would you be pissed off at her or just shrug it off?AstraDrakkar wrote...
Yes bring him back....but only if I can murder knife him again.
Speaking for myself, if my character did something that extreme without any input from me, yeah I'd be pissed off.
But if I had a choice in the matter, then I would not have Hawke blow up the Chantry because my Hawke understands that there are smarter ways to force a change.
#87
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 01:17
I have a question about the OP. Everyone keeps saying Anders isn't his real name and I believe that, but does he or anyone ever say that in-game? DA2 or Awakening? Or was that established in some other media?
#88
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 01:22
Xilizhra wrote...
Elthina wasn't any of those, and only other templars were seen in the building at night.
by this logic, Orsino was the only Mage inside the Gallows, since we never see any others inside when we visit. The rest of them live in the courtyard, and there are less than ten in the entire Circle.
after all, only what we see matters.
#89
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 01:46
#90
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 02:21
Rassler wrote...
Hervoyl wrote...
I wouldn't mind having him show up in a small role in a he-lives import, but I'd rather see new characters take the spotlight in a new game.
A character that has huge impact on players can return. Impact doesn't mean liking the character but the effct it has, So many players decision, views etc has been changed cause of anders, he changed the game for both the players who liked hom or hated him. Tali from ME appears in all 3 games and there are many scenes where she can die depending on the player, but yet it was welcome that we had a chance to save her and keep her in all 3 games. Tali didn't blow up a religious building, sure but the case of having impact on the game perfetly applies to Anders. Tali had a great impact and she and legion are kinda like templars and mages (their heroes). I think Anders can return and in a good and big way.
I didn't say anything about liking him one way or the other, so I don't see what that has to do with anything. I actually thought that the way Anders' mental decline played out in DA2 was fairly well done - the fact that it looked different for a friend/rival Hawke (and then again when romanced) was something that I actually appreciated. It was a complete character arch though, so I feel like there's more to lose than there is to gain from having him in a major role in another game (again, I agree that he was so central to world-changing stuff that he needs to show up in some non-companion capacity if he lived).
I don't think the ME examples work particularly well because they were a single story - DA is pretty clearly several stories, so I'd rather the connections not be so tight - it makes sense for Shepard's friends to come back to him, it doesn't mean that the Warden and Hawke and the new PC should have the same friends. And just for the record, even though I like Tali, she usually (5 out of 7 times) died during the SM in ME2 for me. "Liking" has nothing to do with it. *shrug*
Tootles FTW wrote...
I'd like to see a returning Anders completely consumed by Justice, to the point where he's an abomination (essentially) but fighting for Mages. It seems the logical, and sad, conclusion for his path at the end of DA2.
I like that idea - it would be an interesting development.
Modifié par Hervoyl, 12 juin 2013 - 02:28 .
#91
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 02:56
#92
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 05:27
michalooo wrote...
So what? I get him killed in Awakening and he returns. I get to kill him my self and what? For naught? So they bring him back again? The man is dead. Deal with it.
Calm down. I was strictly talking about a save import where Anders was kept alive. If you import a save where he is dead then you shouldn't see him. No one is forcing anything.
#93
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 06:04
But to be honest, I think (and hope) that Varric will be the only returning squadmate from DA2.
#94
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 06:12
#95
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 06:23
#96
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 06:35
I would advise Anders fans to be careful what they wish for. Anders doesn't have a happy ending. If I were a Dragon Age II Anders fan, I'd like my last sight of him to be from the conversation with him in the Gallows.
#97
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 06:39
#98
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 07:55
almostinsane99 wrote...
By the end of Act III, Anders is dead. There is only Vengeance, a sick distortion of the cat-loving man from Awakening and a decent spirit.
I would advise Anders fans to be careful what they wish for. Anders doesn't have a happy ending. If I were a Dragon Age II Anders fan, I'd like my last sight of him to be from the conversation with him in the Gallows.
Sad ending doesn't mean a bad ending, not always. Legion's end was sad but not bad. He died but freed all the geth, very much like Anders. but if he kept alive he needs a role in inqusition and if an ending is needed too, so be it but make it a good one.
#99
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 08:03
#100
Posté 12 juin 2013 - 08:19
Rassler wrote...
almostinsane99 wrote...
By the end of Act III, Anders is dead. There is only Vengeance, a sick distortion of the cat-loving man from Awakening and a decent spirit.
I would advise Anders fans to be careful what they wish for. Anders doesn't have a happy ending. If I were a Dragon Age II Anders fan, I'd like my last sight of him to be from the conversation with him in the Gallows.
Sad ending doesn't mean a bad ending, not always. Legion's end was sad but not bad. He died but freed all the geth, very much like Anders. but if he kept alive he needs a role in inqusition and if an ending is needed too, so be it but make it a good one.
While not an Anders fan, personally, I'm not as heartless as I pretend to be on the Internet, and my concern is almost exactly the same as almostinsane99's. By the end of Act III, there is very little of Anders left, at best. And with a giant tear in the Vil letting the Fade into reality, what's left would just be fodder for Vengeance. Not how I'd want to see a favored character end up.





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