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[Lulupab]

TK514 wrote...

Rassler wrote...

almostinsane99 wrote...

By the end of Act III, Anders is dead. There is only Vengeance, a sick distortion of the cat-loving man from Awakening and a decent spirit.

I would advise Anders fans to be careful what they wish for. Anders doesn't have a happy ending. If I were a Dragon Age II Anders fan, I'd like my last sight of him to be from the conversation with him in the Gallows.

Sad ending doesn't mean a bad ending, not always. Legion's end was sad but not bad. He died but freed all the geth, very much like Anders. but if he kept alive he needs a role in inqusition and if an ending is needed too, so be it but make it a good one.

While not an Anders fan, personally, I'm not as heartless as I pretend to be on the Internet, and my concern is almost exactly the same as almostinsane99's.  By the end of Act III, there is very little of Anders left, at best.  And with a giant tear in the Vil letting the Fade into reality, what's left would just be fodder for Vengeance.  Not how I'd want to see a favored character end up.

Well there are limitless possibilities for him to appear in a good way. Anders is not quite lost but he is bent on Vengeance. He could cure all tranquil mages, perhaps dying himself in process or he could appear in desparate battle for mages, change the tide, perhaps get killed in battle. I don't see his death nessecary but it can happen in a good way. Something that people, mages in particular will remember him forever.

[JoltDealer]

Rassler wrote...
Original Post snipped for length

I believe it has been said before that Justice/Vengeance could return in some capacity in Dragon Age III, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it will be Anders.  Even then, that's probably the only way it could be done.

[Dubozz]

Aolbain wrote...

No

[Lulupab]

Dubozz wrote...

Aolbain wrote...

No

I just hate it when people don't even bother to read

[Sable Rhapsody]

I love Anders. I think he's one of the best characters I've encountered in any medium. No other character has made me love and hate him so much, often at the same time XD

But whether you spare him or kill him, he's done his thing as far as the plot's concerned. He sparked the mage rebellion, and TBH, I don't think there is such thing as a happy ending for a character like him.   Even if you spare him, even if you romanced him and defended him, he's caused too much bloodshed.  Thedas is not the kind of world that treats a character like Anders with any amount of mercy.

I'd like a cameo or minor plot resolution in DA:I, but that's about all I'd expect.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 13 juin 2013 - 09:45 .

[Salaya]

Yeah, sure, as if Bioware was known for keeping dead those companions that were dead in previous titles.

[LobselVith8]

PlasmaCheese wrote...

Maybe if we go to the Anderfels, we'll meet Anders's twin non-mage brother Joshua, and he'll reminisce on his brother Leonard that was taken away by the Circle. =D..

I have a question about the OP. Everyone keeps saying Anders isn't his real name and I believe that, but does he or anyone ever say that in-game? DA2 or Awakening? Or was that established in some other media?

Gaider said it, but it's not actually mentioned in the story that Anders isn't his real name. It does make me question why everyone calls him Anders, though - including Rylock.

[PlasmaCheese]

Thank you. =)

[berelinde]

LobselVith8 wrote...

PlasmaCheese wrote...

Maybe if we go to the Anderfels, we'll meet Anders's twin non-mage brother Joshua, and he'll reminisce on his brother Leonard that was taken away by the Circle. =D..

I have a question about the OP. Everyone keeps saying Anders isn't his real name and I believe that, but does he or anyone ever say that in-game? DA2 or Awakening? Or was that established in some other media?

Gaider said it, but it's not actually mentioned in the story that Anders isn't his real name. It does make me question why everyone calls him Anders, though - including Rylock.

That is the name people used for him. Perhaps they did not know any different.

He seems to have vivid memories of his childhood before the Circle, so it's possible that he was older than most children are when he was brought there. If he was old enough to be defiant, he may have stubbornly refused to give his name. They might have just given him the name Anders in frustration because they had to call him something. Why Anders? Why not?

As for the topic, I love Anders, I really do, and I prefer to keep him alive, but I'd be just as happy if he didn't return in DA3. Happier, perhaps. As Sable says, it was never going to end well for him. He may have left the order, but he is still a Grey Warden, and has been for at least ten years. Justice will probably not allow the taint to take his mind, but his body will still suffer the effects of corruption. Although... that does bring up an interesting point. Justice has already experienced living inside a decaying corpse. It might be possible to persuade him to leave voluntarily. Though if he did, I am not sure how healthy Anders's psyche would be. All things considered, I'm pretty sure I don't want to find out.

Rumors would be fine. I wouldn't mind walking into a tavern and hearing how Anders and Hawke are continuing to fight the good fight. Ultimately, though, it won't be our preferences that decide it. If the writers have a reaspon to bring him back, they will.

[Minttymint]

No. I love Anders I really do and my Hawke romanced, spared and ran way with Anders but I didn't want to see any previous companions back and now that at least in some capacity we have Varric and Morrigan... Its just too much for me.

[Zombie_Alexis]

I find Anders to be one of the best written characters in the game. He's a tragic figure that really makes an impact on the player -- whether good or bad. I rarely kill him, but I rarely keep him in my party at the end. So since he's wandering around somewhere in Thedas at the end of most of my playthroughs, I'm curious to see where he ended up. I do not, however, want him as a companion again. I want new characters. (Unless it's Varric. Then yes, please!)

[MissOuJ]

berelinde wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

PlasmaCheese wrote...

Maybe if we go to the Anderfels, we'll meet Anders's twin non-mage brother Joshua, and he'll reminisce on his brother Leonard that was taken away by the Circle. =D..

I have a question about the OP. Everyone keeps saying Anders isn't his real name and I believe that, but does he or anyone ever say that in-game? DA2 or Awakening? Or was that established in some other media?

Gaider said it, but it's not actually mentioned in the story that Anders isn't his real name. It does make me question why everyone calls him Anders, though - including Rylock.

That is the name people used for him. Perhaps they did not know any different.

He seems to have vivid memories of his childhood before the Circle, so it's possible that he was older than most children are when he was brought there. If he was old enough to be defiant, he may have stubbornly refused to give his name. They might have just given him the name Anders in frustration because they had to call him something. Why Anders? Why not?

It is also possible that Anders didn't speak anything but Anders, so communication was difficult / impossible when he first came to the Circle, so he simply became 'the Anders' who didn't speak the trade tongue, and he started to answer to that moniker even after he learned the language.

OT: I'd like Anders to make a small cameo at least - with my Hawke, if possible (and if romanced). I'd also like to see his manifesto around - maybe as codex entries or something? And rumours, of course. I actually think he was such an important character in DA2 that his presence will be felt, one way of another, whether he's dead or not, but I'd really like to see him around -- I think it would be interesting to see what he and Justice / Vengeance think about the war / revolution.

[Xilizhra]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

I love Anders. I think he's one of the best characters I've encountered in any medium. No other character has made me love and hate him so much, often at the same time XD

But whether you spare him or kill him, he's done his thing as far as the plot's concerned. He sparked the mage rebellion, and TBH, I don't think there is such thing as a happy ending for a character like him.   Even if you spare him, even if you romanced him and defended him, he's caused too much bloodshed.  Thedas is not the kind of world that treats a character like Anders with any amount of mercy.

I'd like a cameo or minor plot resolution in DA:I, but that's about all I'd expect.

Loghain gets off just fine if you spare him. He's a Warden, but that's not all that terrible, especially since he'll probably die before his Calling.

[kyuubifred]

I wouldn't want Anders as a companion-- he's off somewhere with Hawke in at least one of my playthroughs-- but I think he has a lot of possibilities for cameo appearances, as he's still an important figure. Even if he doesn't appear physically, I expect a lot of rumors about him. It should be interesting to see what the current leaders of the mage rebellion think of him. Obviously, there are going to be quite a few who resent him starting a war, but I expect at least a few enthusiastic supporters. Even if he died in DA2, I expect a few copies of his manifesto in circulation.
I like Anders personally, though I fully understand disliking him. Hateable as he may be, however, he has a pretty major hand in creating the current state of Thedas. I'll be incredibly surprised if he has no importance in DA:I at all.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Xilizhra wrote...
Loghain gets off just fine if you spare him. He's a Warden, but that's not all that terrible, especially since he'll probably die before his Calling.

Loghain's alive.  I wouldn't say he's happy, though.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 13 juin 2013 - 10:21 .

[Herr Uhl]

Salaya wrote...

Yeah, sure, as if Bioware was known for keeping dead those companions that were dead in previous titles.

Considering that they've specifically said that this specific instance shall never be tampered with (Lots and lots of times), I don't think that there will be any changes.

[PinkDiamondstl]

He's alive in most of mine ....

[Luiren]

Can we get him a cat first? Maybe he won't be all.....you know. Act 3 Anders. Perhaps his dark days are over what with all that venting he did at the chantry?

[Sable Rhapsody]

Luiren wrote...

Can we get him a cat first? Maybe he won't be all.....you know. Act 3 Anders. Perhaps his dark days are over what with all that venting he did at the chantry?

My BFF jokes that I caused Anders' problems.  I got a kitten named Ser Pounce-a-lot as a gift right around the release of DA2.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 13 juin 2013 - 10:47 .

[MageTarot]

One of the most maddening things about waiting for DA:I's release is that there are just too many variables to speculate on. In my DAII canon playthrough my M!Hawke (Garrett) stayed with Anders. It will be interesting to see if any clarification will be given regarding Varric's cryptic explanation regarding Hawke and Anders in my story ("Circumstance eventually forced us all to leave the Champion's side...well, all of us except Anders.")


While it would be nice to see Anders again, the fact that at the end of DAII he was with Hawke begs the obvious question....what happened to him?

Modifié par MageTarot, 13 juin 2013 - 11:06 .

[TK514]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Luiren wrote...

Can we get him a cat first? Maybe he won't be all.....you know. Act 3 Anders. Perhaps his dark days are over what with all that venting he did at the chantry?

My BFF jokes that I caused Anders' problems.  I got a kitten named Ser Pounce-a-lot as a gift right around the release of DA2.

Now we know who to blame.

[Sable Rhapsody]

MageTarot wrote...
While it would be nice to see Anders again, the fact that at the end of DAII he was with Hawke begs the obvious question....what happened to him?

If Anders isn't with Hawke, my guess is that someone (possibly Sebastian) eventually kills him off-screen.  Judging by Cassandra's comments during the narration segments of DA2, anyone who isn't firmly pro-mage considers him a villain.

If Anders is with Hawke, that complicates things, especially since any Hawke who defended Anders at the end of DA2 will likely defend him to the death.

[Zeldrik1389]

To be honest, the Anders that people loved is already dead in DA 2, whether you spared him or not. A fun, cool, cat loving mage was no more. What left is an ugly, emo extremist driven by vengeance. Many people was too in love with the old Anders, and refuse to admit this truth. But just because you refuse to look at reality doesn't mean it's not true. So careful what you wish for. If Anders appear again, he will still be that ugly emo terrorist created by Vengeance (as he admit at the end, he and vengeance had become one and can't be seperated anymore.) He's far past the point of returning, so it'd best just let him stay dead, instead of keep going on and get whatever good memory left of him destroyed.

[dbrw]

Yes please. :3

[Charane]

We have had Anders longer than any other companion at this point (DA:A and DA2), I think it's time he's put to the side so that we can have someone new to meet. However, I'm not opposed to a cameo if he lived.