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[Thomas Andresen]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

All you have is the information that is given to you. If you wish to conspiracy theorize, my suggestion to you would be to find a way to set yourself to zero expectations for the game. (Given that I learned how to do this, I do feel that it's in almost everyone's power to learn how to do this). You're already placing forward hypotheticals, and at this point, it seems to be a reinforcement of your impressions of the company.

Another help would be to consider any expectation to be unrealistic.

Psychology is weird. At the best of times.

It's hard to explain accurately, but somehow I am able to be hugely excited about a game, without having any real expectations about what the game will be like. The only expectations I have are about what I will feel about the game, and in my case, those are only peripherally related to what's in the game, at best.

Another issue to consider is perspective(in relation to expectations). You can manipulate perspective by measuring how reality holds up to expectations, replace your expectations with the possibility of the prospects that you might loathe. In context of the E3 teaser, while it might sound extreme to the point of being ridiculous, you might imagine the prospect of DAI being revealed as an MMO, or being told the project was cancelled.

I find that doing this helps to maintain a positive outlook on life and the future, without sacrificing realism. While I still get disappointed, that feeling fades very fast(sometimes even before I realise it's there). The alternative would be to descend into a permanent state of severe depression, and I have enough reasons to do that as it is, without adding disappointment to the mix.

So yes I was hoping for more information about the game to be revealed during E3, and I certainly did not hope for a delay, but I didn't have any expectations about the specifics beyond the fact that I'd be excited about it. Taking these things for what they are, instead of comparing them to "what could have been", makes me happier, and for me, that's a good enough reason in and of itself.

[LPPrince]

Plus, DA:I is not the only game on the horizon.

There are a plethora of amazing titles on the way from a bonanza of hardworking developers irrespective of choice of platform.

There's plenty of games to take up your time before DA:I. Play those, experience those stories, enjoy those mechanics, and before you know it, information on the next Dragon Age title will be drip feeding or Niagara Falling out of Bioware.

I know I've got plenty of games I'm gonna be playing before DA:I comes out, so patience isn't really hard for me to have, especially since I'm SO freaking glad they took more time to make this game.

Modifié par LPPrince, 15 juin 2013 - 03:20 .

[Shevy]

While there are many games, only very few are potentially as interesting as Inquisition. Hopefully GTA V can entertain me until Dark Souls 2 ships and this will do the same til Inquisition's release is near and either I'm convinced in buying it or not.

[Foolsfolly]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Far better IMO to be fully positive during E3 when you are making your public presentations.

Given the things fans often say (They better give this game enough time), I'm not entirely convinced that "Fall 2014" is even unequivocally "bad news." Plenty of people said they liked seeing that, and even elaborated that it's because they appreciate the indication that EA is willing to give the project more time.

Yep! I, for one, am thrilled for another year of development. I love that!

The last couple of BioWare games all seemed to have a similar complaint from fans "Man, think what they could have done with like, 6 more months!" (It's always six month). Here's a little over a year of extra time to iron out bugs, build additional content, hell I don't know video game development but maybe even additional responses and reactions to prior choices!

I'm not on a schedule. I want great games. Take your time. I waited, what was it, 14 years for StarCraft 2? An addition 15 months for DA3's not going to kill me.

...unless I die in a car crash before it comes out. But I lived to see Dark Knight Rises and Mass Effect 3. I can't complain.... shame that in this would-be scenario that I wouldn't see the final season of Mad Men though.

[Vilegrim]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

yes their was... Revan was 'revealed' at PAX east in 2010.

Which was over a year before launch.

It was a teaser in that it wasn't a walking talking ass kicking Revan (And oh boy had he been filled with suck when he did finally turn up in game) but HK-47 was their in glorious technicolour, as was Revan's base, and a flat out stated rebirth for Revan.

You're right, my bad. Although, pedantic again.... I suppose the opportunity to illustrate that I was wrong. I apologize, I was referring to the Blur trailers, since that's the context that the other person was talking about (specifically the Deception trailer), but I can understand that your need to correct me overstates the (directly quoted) hint that this discussion about SWTOR should stop. Noted, however, that I should be more diligent in the things that I say.

Sorry my bad, to used to debate forums.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

(Given that I learned how to do this, I do feel that it's in almost everyone's power to learn how to do this).

Unfortunately, that you can do something is not evidence that other people can do that thing.

This has been thoroughly demonstrated to me time and time again on BSN.

[standardpack]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

It's okay to have interpret those past comments to set that level of expectation for yourself. My mental imagery has you having that expectation, so once you saw DAI news, it was some level of "oh boy, here it comes!" And then not getting what you thought was coming is obviously a big let down.

I don't think you're being silly nor unreasonable for getting your hopes up, and you're right that it's not exactly productive to get slammed with "Why'd you get your hopes up so much?" repeatedly. It's a bit like when I would strike out on my baseball team, and 9 different people would tell me I screwed up by striking out.

You're right that you didn't know the changes to the plan. I have a feeling though, that even upon learning of the change, it didn't alleviate your disappointment. Am I correct?

It's fine to be disappointed upon first seeing it based on your expectation. It's less good if you're still finding yourself disappointed, and I say "less good" in that I mean "That's not what I, Allan Schumacher, want you to be feeling at the moment." Is this still the case? Or is any continued frustration more "Yes, I realize my expectations were high, and it's not exactly helping being told by dozens of people that my anticipation was in error, and feeling relatively attacked for it?"

I couldn't have worded how I felt about the situation better myself. 

[KENNY4753]

So at first I was rather pissed about the lack of DAI we got at E3. I loved the trailer though I wish there was more. And the release date change had me irked too.

Now after reading through comments from Allan, Gaider, etc I am not too irratated. Knowing that you guys knew long ago that it would not be ready and that the release date had to be changed it makes me glad that you guys didnt try to rush it to make late 2013. Now if I hear spring 2015...ugh you guys are killing me...lol

As for the lack of gameplay features and all the other stuff it will come when it comes. Hopefully this means we wont have to wait another 9 months for a little more info.

[Welsh Inferno]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

(Given that I learned how to do this, I do feel that it's in almost everyone's power to learn how to do this).

Unfortunately, that you can do something is not evidence that other people can do that thing.

This has been thoroughly demonstrated to me time and time again on BSN.

I'v learned how to do it. Through disappointment in other games. Works wonders really, allows me to enjoy things for what they are. Haven't had any major disappointments since. Inquisition will be the first BW game I'm going to enter with zero expectations though. So hopefully I shall enjoy it.

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 16 juin 2013 - 01:17 .

[cgckn]

I think this is a good new for us. Because i think they take this job very seriously. In mass effect series are huge success and on one could argue with that but d&d is the tradition mark of Bioware a long time ago. D2 is good game but it seem a little bit disappoint for a lot of people. Specially when you compare with d1. I think this is the point. They don't need to rush a game before they think is good enough to show us. And when time come we will see a amazing game play and storyline (They storyline is the one thing i do not worry about. Because they always did the great job and i don't understand why people always complain about it. )
i don't mind if they will change date release again as long as game will be a perfect.

[Eralrik]

Personally I want a game that is done to the perfection that the Dragon Age team feels is ready if the Fall deadline doesn't seem feasible and needs to be pushed back to Winter 2014 then all be it gives them that much more time to get it right and a better chance a nice Christmas vacation.
Lets let them do their job and let them have fun creating it without sending blame and threats to said employees for not getting the game out pronto.
Kudos Bioware Keep up the good work and I shall just drool abit more over the Teaser trailer.

[addiction21]

Savber100 wrote...

No no no... Look Bioware the problem right now is that some people are concerned over the miscommunication of what previous tweets and devs said on "showing and not just tell" motto along with many implications that the initial reveal will be beyond a teaser.

Whether someone actually said stated that doesn't change the fact that what many fans misinterpreted the many tweets and statements.

All I ask is that Bioware be a little clearer in their communication.

Hint at the possible release date change. Clarify any seen misinterpretation.

1. That miscommunication goes both ways. I keep seeing the same people linking the same comments and its nothing like what they make them out to be. I am not saying its wrong for them to have done it but it is different to have our regular devs saying "I would like it to be" or "what I would like to happen" four months ago held to BioWare as a whole. These were not press release statements. It was the developers talking to us.

2. Isnt that exactly what is happening? Those very same devolpers are here explain why they said what they said, why they were saying and interacting with us. Yet once again the same people are berating them for doing it. Taking it and twisting it so they can throw it back at them.

You don't get it both ways. Either they talk to us about what is happening and what they can talk about at that time and it should always be taken with a grain of salt or they say nothing at all and never give us the insights they can when they can.

This is a two way street. Those devs that have posted in this thread make every attempt to talk to us on our level so is it too much to ask that we try to have some understanding? Instead of the tiresome armchair developer "we know better captain hindsight" bs that keeps getting repeated?

P.S.
That all was not directed at you Savber it just triggered something in my head.

[Allan Schumacher]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

(Given that I learned how to do this, I do feel that it's in almost everyone's power to learn how to do this).

Unfortunately, that you can do something is not evidence that other people can do that thing.

This has been thoroughly demonstrated to me time and time again on BSN.

Touche.

[Leoroc]

My only beef with you guys is back when you showed us the companion armor direction it was implied we woukd get more show and tells like that throughout development. We have gotten none. It would mean a lot if you showed us say, how the new dialogue wheel modifications work (David already spilled the beans on it, may as well show it off). Or a subsystem like crafting.

[Shevy]

Leoroc wrote...

My only beef with you guys is back when you showed us the companion armor direction it was implied we woukd get more show and tells like that throughout development. We have gotten none. It would mean a lot if you showed us say, how the new dialogue wheel modifications work (David already spilled the beans on it, may as well show it off). Or a subsystem like crafting.

Well, with the given release date push back they have enough time to do those kind of things, hopefully they will and we can discuss mechanics with them.

[jstme]

Big thanks to all Bioware people that gave their answers , it is really appreciated. Squash bugs and do your magic to make game (hopefully ) better RPG. No blood magic,though!
There is certainly no rush.