103 réponses à ce sujet

[thebigbad1013]

Mr.House wrote...

bigbad1013 wrote...

This whole Dragon Age vs. The Witcher thing is just silly. Yes, the first two Witcher games were good games (and I own both of them) but they're not THAT good and they are certainly not something that BioWare should be "afraid" of.

Bioware should be wary of a game with better writing and beter characters since that is supposed to be Biowares strength.

I'm sure they are. But the writing in the Witcher series isn't better than in Dragon Age, and the characters are certainly not better.

[Welsh Inferno]

Mr.House wrote...

I'll play both, I'll enjoy TW3 alot, not sure about DA3 though.

[Mr.House]

bigbad1013 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

bigbad1013 wrote...

This whole Dragon Age vs. The Witcher thing is just silly. Yes, the first two Witcher games were good games (and I own both of them) but they're not THAT good and they are certainly not something that BioWare should be "afraid" of.

Bioware should be wary of a game with better writing and beter characters since that is supposed to be Biowares strength.

I'm sure they are. But the writing in the Witcher series isn't better than in Dragon Age, and the characters are certainly not better.

Yes it is. TW and TW2 had better stories then majority of Bioware games. Letho and Jazard are better villians then any villian Bioware has ever created and the supporting cast is alot stronger then most Bioware games.

TW and TW2 have been better in the writing area compared to Bioware for a long time. Also TW and TW2 had real choices with real impact something Bioware has yet to do properly.

Modifié par Mr.House, 12 juin 2013 - 04:09 .

[jsadalia]

Eh, Bioware should be aiming MUCH higher than worrying about the Witcher. If they produce a high-quality game, they'll sell bucketloads.

DAI, if done well, has the ability to appeal to a fairly wide audience. The Witcher series has carved out it's own narrow, grim, tawdry, depressing niche. No, I'm not a fan.

[thebigbad1013]

Mr.House wrote...

bigbad1013 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

bigbad1013 wrote...

This whole Dragon Age vs. The Witcher thing is just silly. Yes, the first two Witcher games were good games (and I own both of them) but they're not THAT good and they are certainly not something that BioWare should be "afraid" of.

Bioware should be wary of a game with better writing and beter characters since that is supposed to be Biowares strength.

I'm sure they are. But the writing in the Witcher series isn't better than in Dragon Age, and the characters are certainly not better.

Yes it is. TW and TW2 had better stories then majority of Bioware games. Letho and Jazard are better villians then any villian Bioware has ever created and the supporting cast is alot stronger then most Bioware games.

TW and TW2 have been better in the writing area compared to Bioware for a long time. Also TW and TW2 had real choices with real impact something Bioware has yet to do properly.

Well, that's your opinion and you are entitled to it....regardless of how wrong you are.

[thebigbad1013]

jsadalia wrote...

Eh, Bioware should be aiming MUCH higher than worrying about the Witcher. If they produce a high-quality game, they'll sell bucketloads.

Agreed 100%!

[Iakus]

As far as I'm concerned, Dragon Age 3's competition will largely be determined by when in 2014 Project Eternity gets released.

[thebigbad1013]

Jayne126 wrote...

bigbad1013 wrote...
Well, that's your opinion and you are entitled to it....regardless of how wrong you are.

And you of course are right. My, what brilliance!

Was that ever in question?

[Tinu]

I thought the Witcher 3 was for Spring 2014. I might be wrong though.

I'm buying Dragon Age for certain, the Witcher is optional. Geralts silhouette seemed very odd.

[GenericEnemy]

i enjoyed the crap out of the Witcher but felt nothing fr any of its characters, cept maybe bro Iorveth. DA is way better in that regard imo

[Nole]

Not really, OP. The Witcher doesn't sell as much as Dragon Age.

[9TailsFox]

Don't care buying both. pre-order from my best retailer as soon as they get it.

[Chiantirose82]

Saying that The Witcher games are better than BioWare games are personal preference, don't state it as a fact. <_<

I never beat the first one and I tried, but I couldn't get into it. I also played TW2 and even though I beat it, I haven't picked it up again since then. I only went Roches (sp?) path and that's it. I did not get sucked in like I do with BW games. In my opinion BW is leagues better with story and characters than CDPR. I have played the BW game I have multiple times (except Jade Empire) but Witcher games, I can't get myself to play more than once, if I even get myself to beat them ( same goes for Bethesda games)

So if I had to choose between the two games I would go for DA:I every time.

[Dessalines]

You play a preset character in Witcher 3. Dragon Age 3 attracts more people, because you get to design your character.

[Blooddrunk1004]

Disagree.
The only games that come close to Witcher's writing is Baldurs Gate series and KOTOR 1 in Bioware titles.
Bioware stopped making good plots since the original Mass Effect and has stopped making excellent characters since Origins (not saying that characters we received since then are bad but they are dissapointing compared to old ones, same goes for plot). Yes that is my opinion and im entitled to it BUT...

Witcher has better writing then all recent Bioware games and that is the fact.
You don't have to be a writer to figure that out.

Modifié par Blooddrunk1004, 12 juin 2013 - 04:40 .

[Andraste_Reborn]

I'm sure lots of hard-core CRPG fans will buy both games, even if they come out during the same week. There may be some competition, but I don't think BioWare need to worry too much - I'm guessing EA can muster a considerably larger advertising budget.

Of course some people will only buy one of them, and for me that one will be DAI. I played The Witcher for a couple of hours and detested it. The only other CRPG I've disliked as much is Gothic. I guess I just hate Straight White Dude set protagonists.

[Il Divo]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Disagree.
The only games that come close to Witcher's writing is Baldurs Gate series and KOTOR 1 in Bioware titles.
Bioware stopped making good plots since the original Mass Effect and has stopped making excellent characters since Origins (not saying that characters we received since then are bad but they are dissapointing compared to old ones, same goes for plot). Yes that is my opinion and im entitled to it BUT...

Witcher has better writing then all recent Bioware games and that is the fact.
You don't have to be a writer to figure that out.

Wait, Baldur's Gate 1 had a plot? I thought it was a scavenger hunt for letters leading the player up and down the Sword Coast.

[Hazegurl]

garrusfan1 wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Personally, I don't give a flaming crap about the Witcher. It's not like *everyone* will flock to the Witcher and be so engrossed in it that they will forget about DA:I.
People have different tastes, and I am sure that many people will end up getting both games.

yes but you want less competition and some will get DA3 over the witcher and some will get the witcher over DA3. you want to maximize your sales competing with someone else doesn't help that

Actually you want more competition when you're running a business. Ask yourself, how come all the fast food joints are next to each other? The anwser, you don't want to start a business in an area similar businesses aren't successful in. Plus you get to show off how your product is better than the other guy's. imo,  I say let them come out at the same time on the same day.  Let Bioware work for those consumer dollars....with lots of teaser trailers and game info  keep the hype up.

[Whitering]

Well, if they release within weeks of each other it's a problem, but the public at large has the attention span of a coked up 2 year old, so it's not really an issue unless they are release really close to each other.

I am kind of more thinking about Project Eternity and Torment. You need hardcore geeks to play your game and I don't know when those games are coming out, but with all respect to the Witcher (I love the games), I think I will be playing Eternity for months.

[Myousefi]

Maybe that's exactly what they want to do. Maybe they're very confident on what they're working on and they know their fans will enjoy it. No need us for us to be concerned. Personally I will buy both as both games seem great to me (so far).

[themikefest]

I am not familiar with Witcher except by name only.

I am familiar with DAO and DA2 with the characters that I enjoy. Bioware is very good at creating characters that I enjoy interacting with.

As far as the release date goes, I don't mind, it gives them more time to fix/add/delete anything that will make the game better.

[Nerevar-as]

Andrastee wrote...

I'm sure lots of hard-core CRPG fans will buy both games, even if they come out during the same week. There may be some competition, but I don't think BioWare need to worry too much - I'm guessing EA can muster a considerably larger advertising budget.

Of course some people will only buy one of them, and for me that one will be DAI. I played The Witcher for a couple of hours and detested it. The only other CRPG I've disliked as much is Gothic. I guess I just hate Straight White Dude set protagonists.

You, sir/madam, have no taste.

On topic, one game is party based and the other a single character, so play styles should be quite different. I hope. Storywise... if you are looking for actual DF I´d go for TW3, DA:O became mostly generic high fantasy after Lothering, and DAII just lacked coherent narrative. And let´s face that BW writing where main plots are concerned hasn´t been very good for some time. They are still quite good with supporting characters (although in DAII I only cared for Varric and Merrill when she wasn´t carrying the Idiot Ball), but just those don´t make a good game.

Feel curious how they´ll handle Yenn and Ciri in TW3, as for non book readers they are strangers, and have had 2 games of Triss whitewashing. Same about Morrigan, they have to introduce her again, and she should still be recognizable to old fans. And not just as Morrigan dissaproves of everything that isn´t killing kittens and the such.