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[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Seboist wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I'd appease the batarians by giving them large numbers of the asari as slaves.

works for me

Sounds like a good plan.

These people get it.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

just kill em.This isn't about strategy or tactics,this is about survival!

[justafan]

If I were in charge of the Alliance, I'd do it the same way they got rid of the pirates. Offer amnesty for all but the worst slavers and pirates who turn themselves in and register themselves and their vessel, then put the heads of the rest caught slaving on spikes.

As for the batarian government, they are no real threat, take away the slavers and pirates and you take away the dictatorships power. And if they try to do something directly, then use the superior fleet of the alliance in retaliation and bring the Hegemony to its knees.

[o Ventus]

Considering that the batarians all but don't exist anymore, I don't think there is a threat.

[Cainhurst Crow]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Try to actually work with them from a liberal theory standpoint of politics. Try to get a constructivist train of thought going among their civilization. Maintain a fleet in the Traverse as an influence in deterrence against aggression, but focus on fostering a new mode of cooperation between the powers that be.

I would go with this, though I would begin putting preasure on the hegemon state controlling the batarian goverment and begin strategic actions to weaken their foothold on their colonies and home planet. Possibly involve exiled elements of the batarian people to begin preforming slave grabs against their own colonies, and thus give the populace a reason to begin rallying agaisnt the current regimes stance on slavery. At the least, I would work to pressure the goverment for reforms to make their slave practices more in line with illiums than with the terminus pirates. I suspect that most batarians in the kite's nest operate on a different mindset as to what slavery is than those of the terminus system, along with selectively censored and altered information supplied to them. I would bomb the extranet on their end with news of the terminus colonies and pirates actions, and see if that speed things along as well.

[S.A.K]

Racist thread is racist...

[ThinkSharp]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Try to actually work with them from a liberal theory standpoint of politics. Try to get a constructivist train of thought going among their civilization. Maintain a fleet in the Traverse as an influence in deterrence against aggression, but focus on fostering a new mode of cooperation between the powers that be.

I'd delegate the situation to MassivelyEffective.

[Wolfva2]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Try to actually work with them from a liberal theory standpoint of politics. Try to get a constructivist train of thought going among their civilization. Maintain a fleet in the Traverse as an influence in deterrence against aggression, but focus on fostering a new mode of cooperation between the powers that be.

It'll be interesting what you do when your diplomats are assassinated or enslaved and they continue doing what they want to.

They're slavers.  They see that as their natural position in the universe as the superior race.  You can talk to them all you like, they're not going to believe a subordinate species such as your own...which is only good for cleaning their offal and sexually pleasuring them.

One thing history has shown us is appeasement does not work on folks like them.  Look at President Jefferson and the Barbary pirates.  The USA paid tribute to them in the hopes they'd stop capturing American ships and holding the crew hostage; selling those who weren't hostaged off as slaves.  They sent ambassadors, and gifts.  The tribute and gifts were accepted, the ambassadors wined and dined, and the slavery continued.  UNTIL Thomas Jefferson sent the US Navy to pay a visit to the Barbary coast.  They bombed Tripoli, the 12 gun schooner USS Enterprise defeated the 14 gun Tripolitan, and violent, armed conflict saved the day.

Which is pretty much how I'd handle the Batarians; the same way the Barbary coast pirates were handled.  After all, there are many similarities.  The Barbary Coast pirates were part of the Ottoman empire; the Batarians have their own empire.  I'd send several small battle fleets of frigates and corsairs to protect from slaver attacks, with a larger fleet nearby but well in our teritory to help dissuade the Batarians from open warfare.  I'd also keep open diplomatic lines, because violence is always the last option.  BUT:  It IS an option.

[Wolfva2]

S.A.K wrote...

Racist thread is racist...

Batarian isn't a race.  It's a species.  So this is a speciest thread.  However, they're an imaginary species.  So, it's really an imaginary speciest thread.

[ThinkSharp]

You shouldn't necessarily assume that because much off-world contact made with Batarians has been with Batarian pirates and slaves since their withdrawal the average Batarian is a pirate or slaver.

[FlamingBoy]

have the reapers destroy them offscreen to avoid writing content about them .

Seriously though, I would continue to isolate them from the galactic community chancellor Bismark style

[knightnblu]

I am a hawk. I will talk to you a couple of times and then my patience wanes. There would have been war if I were in a position to call it and if necessary, I would have destroyed them in the Roman sense of the word.

[CynicalShep]

If we assumed that they somehow survived ME3 (and I remember Hackett saying that they "are history") just defeat them unconventionally. Cut the slave trade(you might have to "use the force"), damage their economy, sabotage anything military they might have, assassinate a few leaders here and there and see if they learn. If not - rinse and repeat until slavery or batarians no longer exist (whichever comes first).

[CapnManx]

The Batarians got away with as much as they did because the Alliance relied on the cavalry riding to the rescue (figuratively speaking), instead of maintaining strong defences on and around their worlds. Pirates and slavers could get in, trash a colony, and be away again before the Alliance could respond.

Personally, I'd redistribute a portion of the Alliance fleet to vulnerable worlds, instead of keeping them all huddled up at strategic relays. Maybe train up local militias too, so that there's more forces on the ground than tiny little marine garrisons.

If the fighting were typically still going on when the reinforcements arrived, then the number of raiders in the galaxy would likely drop fairly quickly.

[in it for the lolz]

Same way as dealing with the blue xenos...
...with bolter and chainsword.

[KiwiQuiche]

Pick Control then Harvest the batarians and make them a labour force to repair the beaten-up galaxy.

[Display Name Owner]

You know, this is actually one of the really interesting situations in the MEverse. The Batarians were going to have to be dealt with some way at some point. They've been sitting in their corner of the galaxy, isolating themselves and treating everyone else either with cold silence or outright hostility. The only way to handle them, short of wiping them out, would have been by sabotaging and bringing down the Hegemony. The leaders are the ones responsible for the Batarian's behaviour. They've been funding the pirates, slavers and mercenaries, and keeping their people oppressed and aggressively fed with propaganda. I like to think that there were factions of Batarians who'd had enough of it and were working to bring down the Hegemony. Maybe the Council could have cooperated with such groups, if they exist.

There were some really cool stories to be had there. It's a damn shame they all got snuffed out with a quick codex entry basically boiling down to 'The Reapers killed them'...

[Jukaga]

isnudo wrote...

You know, this is actually one of the really interesting situations in the MEverse. The Batarians were going to have to be dealt with some way at some point. They've been sitting in their corner of the galaxy, isolating themselves and treating everyone else either with cold silence or outright hostility. The only way to handle them, short of wiping them out, would have been by sabotaging and bringing down the Hegemony. The leaders are the ones responsible for the Batarian's behaviour. They've been funding the pirates, slavers and mercenaries, and keeping their people oppressed and aggressively fed with propaganda. I like to think that there were factions of Batarians who'd had enough of it and were working to bring down the Hegemony. Maybe the Council could have cooperated with such groups, if they exist.

There were some really cool stories to be had there. It's a damn shame they all got snuffed out with a quick codex entry basically boiling down to 'The Reapers killed them'...

Not being able to visit Karshan and the Elcor homeworld were two huge missed opportunities.

[Kel Riever]

erezike wrote...

the batarian, ever since the humans reached out to the galaxy and started expanding through space. the batarians were after them. killing, enslaving, raping and doing whatever they could do to get away with it.

How would you deal with the batarian threat?

Or, more correctly phrased, "How did you deal with them?"  Because you have the opportunity to determine that when you generate your character in ME1.  And, of course, thorughout the entire series.

Under my Shepard, the Batarians didn't fare so well.  Shepard was a Ruthless Spacer, who did what was necessary.  That was my consistent choice, as well, when dealing with the Batarians throughout.  Most got killed, or lived only because there was something to be gained.  The meat moustache men didn't need to be understood beyond how useful they would be in the Reaper war in ME3.  And truth be told, since most were wiped out before the Reapers came after Alliance space, the decision about how to deal with them was mostly made for me....

[Sajuro]

o Ventus wrote...

Considering that the batarians all but don't exist anymore, I don't think there is a threat.

Just some old fashioned genocide

[Jukaga]

Kel Riever wrote...

erezike wrote...

the batarian, ever since the humans reached out to the galaxy and started expanding through space. the batarians were after them. killing, enslaving, raping and doing whatever they could do to get away with it.

How would you deal with the batarian threat?

Or, more correctly phrased, "How did you deal with them?"  Because you have the opportunity to determine that when you generate your character in ME1.  And, of course, thorughout the entire series.

Under my Shepard, the Batarians didn't fare so well.  Shepard was a Ruthless Spacer, who did what was necessary.  That was my consistent choice, as well, when dealing with the Batarians throughout.  Most got killed, or lived only because there was something to be gained.  The meat moustache men didn't need to be understood beyond how useful they would be in the Reaper war in ME3.  And truth be told, since most were wiped out before the Reapers came after Alliance space, the decision about how to deal with them was mostly made for me....

Just curious as I've never combined Spacer/Ruthless... do any of the interactions with Shep's mom change? I bet not, but it would be nice for a different dialog depending on your actions.

[GeneralMoskvin_2.0]

Seboist wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I'd appease the batarians by giving them large numbers of the asari as slaves.

works for me

Sounds like a good plan.

Gentlemen, you had my curiousity, now you have my attention. I'm in for that plan.

[CptData]

erezike wrote...

the batarian, ever since the humans reached out to the galaxy and started expanding through space. the batarians were after them. killing, enslaving, raping and doing whatever they could do to get away with it.

How would you deal with the batarian threat?

Good ol' fashioned fleets at any Mass Relays leading to Batarian space.