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[Zulu_DFA]

"What about Shepard?" asks Udina and next moment you're freaking Space Cinderella!

It is Udina, who insists on Tali's participation in the quest, if you are reluctant to take her. (The talimancers should canonize him just for that.).

If you don't act like a moron, namely save Feros colony and waste the rachni queen, Udina praises your actions.

After the recall to Citadel Udina again praises your actions, while the Council openly dissaproves and questions your mental capacity. And it is Udina, who leaves the Normandy in Human hands, and you in the Specters. (Yes, he shuts you up, but your case had been closed by your alien superiors -  the Council - even before you docked at the Citadel)

And it is Udina who, should the opportunity arise, pushes forward for greater power in the Galaxy for the Mankind, even if your moron Shepard resists it. But he is ready to give way to Anderson for the chairmancy.

Udina does his job. And does it 100%.

He has just two minor faults:
1. He ain't no your cookie-treating auntie.
2. He goes to Shaira's too often.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 04 juillet 2010 - 08:52 .

[n7agent]

Udina is whats wrong with humanity in mass effect

[DeathCultArm]

Udina owns. This is fact.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Udina is what Humanity needs.

[n7agent]

a quick tempered back stabber?

[KnightofPhoenix]

No, a diplomatic, thoughtful politician who knows the ins and outs of galactic politics.

He didn't backstab anyone. It was the Citadel that gave you a direct order and you, as a specter, must obey that order. Udina is not going to create a galactic scandal by aiding a rogue specter. Aliens are already seeing humanity as a threat, what would they think if the human amabssador helps a Specter defy council orders?

How revealing it is that all Udina haters have 0 knowledge about politics and little logic to support their position.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 17 janvier 2010 - 04:57 .

[ReubenLiew]

Captain Anderson has the sexier voice. Too bad Udina

[DeathCultArm]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

No, a diplomatic, thoughtful politician who knows the ins and outs of galactic politics.

He didn't backstab anyone. It was the Citadel that gave you a direct order and you, as a specter, must obey that order. Udina is not going to create a galactic scandal by aiding a rogue specter. Aliens are already seeing humanity as a threat, what would they think if the human amabssador helps a Specter defy council orders?

How revealing it is that all Udina haters have 0 knowledge about politics and little logic to support their position.

THAT

[Kaiol_]

I don't like his voice  >;(

Modifié par Kaiol_, 17 janvier 2010 - 05:02 .

[n7agent]

Dont insult my intelligence just because we have varying opinions Udina doesnt care about the lives of the galactic community he wants more and more for humanity. He probably voted for the terra firma party.

[Teknor]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

No, a diplomatic, thoughtful politician who knows the ins and outs of galactic politics.

He didn't backstab anyone. It was the Citadel that gave you a direct order and you, as a specter, must obey that order. Udina is not going to create a galactic scandal by aiding a rogue specter. Aliens are already seeing humanity as a threat, what would they think if the human amabssador helps a Specter defy council orders?

How revealing it is that all Udina haters have 0 knowledge about politics and little logic to support their position.

No, council leaves you with options and does not send a fleet after you when you take off with Normandy it's the Udina who orders for Normandy's grounding.  

[KnightofPhoenix]

That's how politics works. Everyone wants more. Plus, Udina is perfectly willing to recreate the council in one of the endings, or collaborate with the council in another. Or create a human council.

Ironically, Captain Anderson agrees with Udina on almost all points, and is willing to create an all human council as well (and they both have the same exact speech BTW).

So why is it that people hate Udina and love Anderson? It's probably the voice.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Teknor wrote...
No, council leaves you with options and does not send a fleet after you when you take off with Normandy it's the Udina who orders for Normandy's grounding.  

Neither does Udina.
The Council was clear that Shepard should not pursuit the reaper business and that his work was done. The normandy is an alliance vessel, so yes it's in Udina's jurisdiction to ground it. But it's not his jurisdiction to order a Specter, that's what the council did.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 17 janvier 2010 - 05:11 .

[Zulu_DFA]

n7agent wrote...

Dont insult my intelligence just because we have varying opinions Udina doesnt care about the lives of the galactic community he wants more and more for humanity. He probably voted for the terra firma party.

Commander Shepard voted for Terra Firma party

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 18 janvier 2010 - 03:17 .

[n7agent]

Captain Anderson is a great military leader who knows that grounding the normandy is the worst thing UDINA could have done. If the normandy stayed grounded the entire galaxy would have been wiped out because of Udina.

[Teknor]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Teknor wrote...
No, council leaves you with options and does not send a fleet after you when you take off with Normandy it's the Udina who orders for Normandy's grounding.  

Neither does Udina.
The Council was clear that Shepard should not pursuit the reaper business and that his work was done. The normandy is an alliance vessel, so yes it's in Udina's jurisdiction to ground it. But it's not his jurisdiction to order a Specter, that's what the council did.

Council ceases its support for Shepard, it does not order Shepard to stop the pursuit. It is the Udina who jumps to the opportunity and grounds Normandy to show that Alliance does not back up Shepard.

[DeathCultArm]

If the council hadn't treated Shepherd like like he belonged at the kiddie table, Udian would've done. It. What was he supposed to do? Human had a hard enough time getting respect as it was. Udina has to worry about the council's obvious human bias, as well as a rogue spectre who is now chasing a high regarded TURIAN, former spectre, with little else than vision of a mechinal, genocidial race. What the **** was Udian supposed to do...?!

[KnightofPhoenix]

And Udina admits he made a mistake, but as an amabssador, he had little choice. People should try to think outside the box and imagine themselvesw in Udina's position.

I like Anderson alot. He is brave and brilliant. But I didn't ut him as head of the council because he is a military man. Last thing we need is the military handling the subtelties of politics. Historically speaking, that almost always leads to disaster.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Teknor wrote...
Council ceases its support for Shepard, it does not order Shepard to stop the pursuit. It is the Udina who jumps to the opportunity and grounds Normandy to show that Alliance does not back up Shepard.

No, the Council ordered Shepard not to go to Ilos, because Ilos lies in the Terminus system. If a Specter goes there, it's basically a declaration of war.

[Marlina]

I fully endorse this thread!



We should totally make a Udina group. I would join in an instant. You up for it Zulu?

[KnightofPhoenix]

Marlina wrote...

I fully endorse this thread!

We should totally make a Udina group. I would join in an instant. You up for it Zulu?

I am up for it myself. I always stand with the unjustly hated.

[DeathCultArm]

First Udina, Now Mirnada....I embrace the the universal hate some charatcers recieve...

[tommythetomcat]

People just hate interesting characters, and love shallow and uninspired ones. Take Tali for example.